kk thanks we just tested something and with the server running when i attempt to connect it shows me connected to the server however on my end it sticks at "Logging in to Game Server" ... So this seems like im stuck with dealing with the admins for the server program that we are running that won't answer any of our questions we post... they answer every other question on the forum except for the questions we post... i'm so damned frustrated right now.....ughh!!!!!!