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Re: That's great but The buzz is gone with 3G on my iPhone
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said by r81984:said by fifty nine:said by r81984:I do know that some cdma carriers in canada are planning to switch to gsm. My gsm phone gets signals where cdma does not. gsm has much more coverage than cdma in the us and goes through walls a lot better. Having to call people on verizon sucks when they are indoors. Obviously since you live in Canada you are unqualified to talk about what happens here in the US, so let me educate you. Fact - coverage has nothing to do with CDMA vs GSM. However, those on the Verizon network have substantially more coverage in many areas than those on AT&T or T-Mobile. Since Sprint users can roam on verizon, they have that too. In areas I primarily travel, i.e. the Eastern Seaboard of the US, Verizon wins hands down in terms of coverage. However, I find that with a weak signal I can still make a call on Verizon's CDMA network and have people understand me. On GSM when the signal is low, people sound like they're underwater and it goes rapidly downhill from there. CDMA is also more spectrum efficient. GSM's old standard was based on TDMA, which allocates time slices for each user. CDMA has them all transmitting at once which makes more efficient use of spectrum since they're really not taking turns like on CDMA. I live in the US, I am in Canada for 6 months for work. Fact - GSM gets more coverage across the US, I know I have driven across the US many times. Fact - weak signals are terrible on CDMA Fact - when you are in a highly populated area CDMA calls quality drops because the tower lowers call quality to take on more calls. Fact - GSM gets a much better connection in low signal. Fact - GSM gets better coverage from New York all the way to florida ( I have driven it with both CDMA and GSM phones) Fact - I have never had a call on my GSM phone sound like it is underwater. Now I know you are lying. This is possible on CDMA since the tower will lower quality as more people connect to the tower. Fact - I have lived in Indiana, Louisiana, and Florida. I am in Canada for work. Sorry to ruin your Canada bashing fun. In Canada the CDMA providers are looking into switching to GSM. Sorry but Verizon smokes T-mobile and AT&T out this way in terms of network availability. While others are struggling to keep a call stable in our building, my Storm handles it without incident. In fact I didn't even notice they were having problems until they mentioned it. |
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said by r81984:said by margaf77:said by glinc:maybe ur gf is using those small cdma companies? i.e. metropcs and others. Myself having gone through every single carrier and working in cellphone business will stay in CDMA and Verizon is by far the best. Also that depends how much money each company invest money in their towers and Verizon is by far the one who spend the most. In NYC Verizon is the ONLY choice. ATT's network is horrible. The only weak spot I run into is on some parts of the N. Shore of LI. I was just in NYC and I did not have a problem with my GSM phone. Well we should all take your view after a few days here instead of all the people in NYC who say different. |
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said by fifty nine:said by 81399672:I disagree, GSM works just as good as CDMA. Then why is GSM moving to CDMA? Noone is, in fact everyone is moving to GSM in North America, including any Canadian Companies using CDMA, they are joining the rest of the world on GSM and NEW GSM products has come a long way when compared to CDMA products nowadays. GSM is a protocol (method) for handling signals, and since its introduction has a had a few upgrades to the specification. I'm not saying GSM is superior to CDMA, because I don't have the knowledge to compare the latest variations of each protocol, but I do know GSM is way better then it was a few years ago. |
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Telus is beginning its GSM transition in 2010. |
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said by fifty nine:said by mlerner:said by fifty nine:Please don't force GSM on those of us who are happy with CDMA, which is clearly superior where it matters - reliability. GSM might be poor in your area but it's the best we got in Canada. Typically I find the sound quality better than a landline. You also have rationed healthcare in Canada. I don't want us to be like Canada. What a bunch of misinformation, we have public healthcare accessible by ALL, we just might have to wait a bit longer for non-serious illness or injuries. |
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Yep gone with my 3G phone too.... |
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 chlenEthically ChallengedPremium
join:2001-01-16
Albany, NY | reply to M A R S
Every EU nation has a CDMA carrier, ever Russia has CDMA carriers. Stop talking out of your ass. SE Asia does as well, particularly Japan and Australia. |
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 elwoodbluesElwood BluesPremium
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HarperLand | reply to r81984
Telus and Bell here in Canada are both CDMA but are preparing a GSM overlay, so that they can compete with Rogers and it's subsidary Fido,which are the ONLY 2 GSM carriers (right now) in Canada. |
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Interesting you say that.. I was at the Grand Canyon last year, and on the top my GSM phone(who ever I was roaming with at the time) didn't work.
However I saw a good number of people chatting away, so I can only assume they were using Verizon and/or a CDMA provider.
It really is 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. I guess the advantage of GSM is that it's used in Europe and Asia. My phone is unlocked so I can swap sim cards very quickly.
My understanding is that CDMA phones cannot be "unlocked" |
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 r81984Fair and BalancedPremium
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| said by elwoodblues:Interesting you say that.. I was at the Grand Canyon last year, and on the top my GSM phone(who ever I was roaming with at the time) didn't work. However I saw a good number of people chatting away, so I can only assume they were using Verizon and/or a CDMA provider. It really is 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. I guess the advantage of GSM is that it's used in Europe and Asia. My phone is unlocked so I can swap sim cards very quickly. My understanding is that CDMA phones cannot be "unlocked" Was your phone 850 mhz and 1900 mhz GSM?
There are some GSM phones that do not work with both frequencies.
The map for CDMA for the grand canyon does not show any better coverage than GSM.
Anyways CDMA does not have better coverage than GSM. Now if you have a CDMA and AMPS phone then you would get better coverage than GSM.
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said by elwoodblues:Interesting you say that.. I was at the Grand Canyon last year, and on the top my GSM phone(who ever I was roaming with at the time) didn't work. However I saw a good number of people chatting away, so I can only assume they were using Verizon and/or a CDMA provider. Or that you didn't have a roaming agreement with the available GSM provider.
ATT does have roaming in parts of the grand canyon, TMO has a bit less coverage (although it may roam there also). Sprint is roaming CDMA there. Verizon has "coverage" in most parts (they don't differentiate between roaming and native coverage at all) - similar to ATT and Sprint (both of which are roaming anyways) .
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