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This MP3 player

Honestly, that is a lousy deal. OK, $23 is cheap... but it's a lousy player, only 1GB, and refurb, so you get what you pay for. That particular model is over 4 years old, which is an antique in the world of mp3 players. (To give you an idea how old this is - it came out around the same time as the first iPod with a color screen... but no video )

If you want a super cheap mp3 player, check out the Sansa Clip. Newegg has them new, open box, and refurbished and you will get much better bang for your buck than with this Sony.
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reply to inGearX
That thing is ancient.
Here's something I found. I know it's Coby but 20GB for 50 bucks is 20GB for 50 bucks

»www.techbargains.com/news_displa···m/167959
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reply to inGearX
just get any iPod that you can afford. they're not that expensive and there's a reason why the only competitor (barely) is a company that can afford to dump millions into marketing waiting years for a turnout.

Eh... are you assuming that the Zune is the second most popular mp3 player? I doubt that's true. Last I heard Sansa was outselling them about 3:1.

Just because you only know about mp3 players you've seen on TV commercials doesn't mean there aren't any others In addition to Sansa's budget players, Cowon, Sony, and Samsung have some very solid high-end players out right now, and Creative just announced one with some extremely impressive specs (32GB + SDHC, X-Fi, bluetooth, GPS, wifi, HD camera, built-in speaker and mic, HDTV out...and an open-source OS).

I just can't imagine recommending an $80 4GB screenless player (Apple's cheapest one) to someone looking for something inexpensive. It's so overpriced, unless you have a burning need to either use iTunes or lighten your load by 3/4 of an ounce.
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reply to inGearX
Sorry, I'd not go near another mp3 player with some type of larger display. I picked up a 4GB Sansa E260 (with additional microSD slot) a few months ago and will never look back. I installed Rockbox and just love it! It was new and around $30.

I highly recommend this model player.

reply to Sarah
Hey if you want to recommend the guy an inferior product then by all means. i guess fwiw someone has to buy that stuff. and I havent seen a tele commercial in years. well -- thats a lie...I havent seen a tele commercial in my home in years.

Let me guess... you are an expert on mp3 players by virtue of having used one brand? Maybe 2?

I've owned 8 players since 2001 and used others belonging to friends and family, from Apple, Meizu, iRiver, Archos, Cowon, and Sansa. Believe me... I know what is inferior and what is overpriced.

But hey, if you want to spend double on a player with fewer features, go right ahead.
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reply to inGearX
what are the 8 that you have owned?

Archos JB6000 (gave it away)
iPod 3G 15GB (sold it)
iRiver H140 (still have it - use it for recording)
iRiver Clix 2GB (1G) (gave it away)
Meizu M6 8GB (broke)
Cowon D2 8GB (still have it - use it plugged into speakers in the kitchen)
Cowon S9 16GB (sold it)
Cowon S9 32GB (still have it, use it daily)

In chronological order
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The Sansa would fall under "used others belonging to friends and family." I gave my dad a Clip because he wanted something with FM radio for jogging.

I've played with a Sansa e2xx series, a Sansa Clip, an Archos 202, an iRiver Clix 2G, a couple of generic/no-name players, and about half a dozen different iPods all belonging to other people... plus of course I've poked at some Creative, Sony, and Samsung players in stores... can't keep my hands off of audio gadgetry
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.. and after sampling and owning so many pmp's what is your view of the state of the market? I'm perfectly happy running my Rockboxed Sansa e270 v1
Id be interested in running a Sansa Clip or e200seriesv2 as long as the Rockbox developers have reliable builds for the platform.

If I had my druthers, I'd like to try running Rockbox on an iPod 5th Geneneration iPod video - it works with Rockbox and supports a large hard drive that can be upagraded to 160GB plusl

Rockbox is without a doubt the best firmware you can run on any PMP, it allows for the use of more codexes and a feature set that includes audio equalizations and incrediable flexibility in creating playlists and every other fuction of the player.

Yeah, I've got Rockbox running on my trusty old iRiver H140. It certainly has saved that player from the trash heap for several years now I sent them a couple of donations over the years... they do amazing stuff. And it certainly makes me reassured that if the market goes even further downhill that I'll be able to use it on an old iPod and still have a decent player.

As for the state of the market... I'm disappointed that there are not more players aimed at audiophiles and high-end consumers. Where are the optical and line-out jacks for people who want to use headphone amps? Where is the format support? How about decent EQ or just a higher-quality headphone jack? Where is lossless recording capability? My Rockboxed H140 has all that, which is in part why I keep it, but no one makes anything like that anymore.

There are a few companies, mainly in Asia, making higher end stuff (like the Cowon S9 that I have) but even those are somewhat lacking. It seems the market has gone from being aimed at audio geeks to being aimed at teenagers to being aimed at people who want either a PDA or a phone. I have zero interest in apps and wifi and all that stuff if a player is not going to play my music perfectly, y'know?
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reply to inGearX
Really good deal but I guess this kind of mp3 players outdated as you can see wireless walkman by sony is also good one to use. You can also go for philips gogear, microsoft zune or ipod even a good option.

Please verify store as well, I guess handheld has good impression overall.

reply to inGearX
It's ancient, and was only decent in it's time, nothing special at all. When it was new, the Walkman Circ was nothing more than an entry level, very basic walkman.

Check out sony's latest walkman, the X, S, and E series are all very impressive. If you are looking for something small and cheap, you can probably still pick up a NW-E005 for under $30, I picked one up a few months ago for $30 shipped off ebay. Plus it's 2GB and way better than the Circ, still not new (was released in 2006 or 2007), but a much better walkman if you are looking for something cheap to get the job done.

Edit - Feel free to ask me any questions. I've owned several walkman over the passed few years from MiniDisc, to HDD, to Flash. I'm currently in love with my NWZ-X1051. For people that really appreciate great sound quality, look no further than Sony.
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