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<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:37:00 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Line Margin Question</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/372021"><b>Doctor Olds</b></A> : As far as I've seen there is no correlation between the two values.<br><br>If anything, you should consider yourself extremely lucky as anything 20dB and below is outstanding according to the chart posted above.<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ford-gt/">What&#146;s the point of owning a supercar if you can&#146;t scare yourself stupid from time to time?</a></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:47:16 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Line Margin Question</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/795346"><b>whfsdude</b></A> : Sorry about the lack of clarity. My question was is it normal for the line attenuation values to be so drastically different for upstream (6) and downstream (18) channels? Eg. could it indicated a failing modem or a bad line card?<br><br>This is pretty recent as the upstream improved. It used to be in in the 16's.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:36:49 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/372021"><b>Doctor Olds</b></A> : I don't understand the question?  What discrepancy?<br><br><A HREF="http://www.dslreports.com/faq/6734">How do I check modem statistics/event logs? What do the numbers mean?</a><br><br><div class="bquote">Although what is monitored and the exact name may be different depending on manufacturer, the overall information is pretty much the same.  Below are some of the common terms and measurements used to judge line quality. Remember these are not hard numbers but simply a generalization of line statistics:<br><br><b>SN Margin (AKA Signal to Noise Margin or Signal to Noise Ratio)</b><br>Relative strength of the DSL signal to Noise ratio. <b>6dB</b> is generally the lowest dB manufactures specify in order for the modem to be able to synch. In some instances <b><A HREF="/faq/2182">interleaving</a></b> can help raise the noise margin to an acceptable level.  Generally speaking, as overall bandwidth increases, your signal to noise ratio decreases.  So a customer that upgrades from 1.5 to 6.0 service will typically see a corresponding decrease in the signal to noise ratio. The <b>higher</b> the number the better for this measurement.<br><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bred.gif">6dB or below is bad and will experience no synch or intermittent synch problems<br><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bred.gif">7dB-10dB is fair but does not leave much room for variances in conditions  <br><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bred.gif">11dB-20dB is good with no synch problems<br><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bred.gif">20dB-28dB is excellent<br><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bred.gif">29dB or above is outstanding<br><br><b>Line Attenuation</b><br>Measure of how much the signal has degraded between the DSLAM and the modem. Maximum signal loss recommendation is usually about <b>60dB</b>. One of the biggest factors affecting line attenuation is distance from the DSLAM.  Generally speaking, bigger distances mean higher attenuation.  The <b>lower</b> the dB the better for this measurement.<br><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bred.gif">20dB and below is outstanding <br><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bred.gif">20dB-30dB is excellent<br><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bred.gif">30dB-40dB is very good<br><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bred.gif">40dB-50dB is good<br><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bred.gif">50dB-60dB is poor and may experience connectivity issues<br><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bred.gif">60dB or above is bad and will experience connectivity issues</div><br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ford-gt/">What&#146;s the point of owning a supercar if you can&#146;t scare yourself stupid from time to time?</a></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:41:51 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/795346"><b>whfsdude</b></A> : I was just checking my ADSL2+ stats tonight and was wondering if it was normal to have such a discrepancy between attenuation.<br><br>noise margin upstream: 29 db<br>output power downstream: 18 db <br>attenuation upstream: 6 db<br><br>noise margin downstream: 20 db<br>output power upstream: 11 db <br>attenuation downstream: 18 db]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 00:44:31 EDT</pubDate>
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