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light_speed

join:2009-03-18
Nepean, ON

reply to still a throttle

Re: Throttling on Primus?

- QoS cannot be avoided. Even if this DPI thing did not suddenly emerge QoS would have been in place of any ISP core just assure better service. DPI just enhances to higher level, question surely remains "What is the intent of the ISP?". How the ISPs will use this tool is up to them and we should argue on that rather than pointing that DPI is a bad thing.

- Besides, aren't we using "Car Pool" lanes in free/highways to avoid congestion and increase performance, what is so different in the Inter-Network.

artich0ke

join:2009-03-18
canada

said by light_speed:

- Besides, aren't we using "Car Pool" lanes in free/highways to avoid congestion and increase performance, what is so different in the Inter-Network.
Expanding roads and highways requires more land which is unavailable for all sorts of reasons.

What's the excuse for not expanding the inter-network?

Analytic

join:2009-02-09
kudos:1

said by artich0ke:

Expanding roads and highways requires more land which is unavailable for all sorts of reasons.

What's the excuse for not expanding the inter-network?
Cost?
Users want more and more bandwidth, but also do not want to pay more for it. ISPs, in turn, need to lease network capacity, pay for inteconnect, etc. It is quite difficult to find the right balance here....

This is my personal opinion that might not reflect the official Primus position.

artich0ke

join:2009-03-18
canada

said by Analytic:

Users want more and more bandwidth, but also do not want to pay more for it.
Hasn't bandwidth become much cheaper for ISPs compared to earlier years?

From what I've noticed residential broadband connections haven't gotten any cheaper, in fact quite the opposite, they've gotten more expensive and overall haven't gotten that much faster (esp. for wholesale dsl).


mlerner
Premium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
kudos:5

reply to Analytic

said by Analytic:

Users want more and more bandwidth, but also do not want to pay more for it. ISPs, in turn, need to lease network capacity, pay for inteconnect, etc. It is quite difficult to find the right balance here....

This is my personal opinion that might not reflect the official Primus position.
I can see that being the reason for Primus, your network is smaller and with limited funding. Bell on the other hand has had decades to build their infrastructure and both retail and wholesale is paying for that network.

You're right to a certain extent that users do not want to pay but the major ISPs keep jacking up the rate anyway so if there's an increase then there better be infrastructure upgrades as well.

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