| This bill will never make it thru Congress This bill is populist nonsense by a Congressman peeved at TWC and their metered billing plans.
If you go to his web site, one argument he uses for having this bill is pure BS. Does he think the voters and his fellow congresscritters are ALL idiots?
»massa.house.gov/?sectionid=24&pa···emid=316
In April, when Time Warner Cable in Rochester announced that they would begin overcharging customers based on their bandwidth usage, a group of doctors approached Congressman Massa and informed him that if the proposal was enacted, they would be forced to raise rates on their patients. Time Warner's new program would have raised the cost of their current unlimited internet plan from $50 per month to $150 per month
LOL. Right - $100 more per month for internet access would cause doctors to raise their patient charges. Who is he kidding. Like they need an excuse to do that anyway.
Karl calls it right on this bill:
it's hard to think this (or any legislation mandating how ISPs price services) will make it through a heavily lobbied Congress.
Expect Massa to lose this particular fight, barring some kind of K-Street miracle.
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Pleasant Hill, MO | But at least it looks like some1 may actually be listening to us for a change.
Maybe this will get the cap into the main stream view and people will learn what it is and how it works ect. And it if does get into the main stream the ISPs should NOT be the only ones who can educate the people, groups like stop the cap consumer advocates and people who want to say why caps are bad should be able to speak up. |
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Come on tk, you can't possibly be on the side of TW are you?
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said by fAcEtIOUs:If you go to his web site, one argument he uses for having this bill is pure BS. But arent most bills BS anyway and they pass with flying colors.  |
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said by S_engineer:Come on tk, you can't possibly be on the side of TW are you? He has stock in TW whats why he says that.
Be funny as hell if this takes place and the stock takes a big dump. No golf today there TK. All your money just went down the tubes just to make a buck. |
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said by S_engineer:Come on tk, you can't possibly be on the side of TW are you? If I was CEO of TWC I wouldn't be pricing the way they planned on doing it. It was a supremely stupid move on their part. Their CEO should be summarily fired. I've posted here before on how I would structure prices.
But I do believe that as a private corporation that TWC should be able to decide on how to price their services. What we don't need is more meddling in the decisions of individual corporations by the government. There is already too much of that now.
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said by hayabusa3303:said by S_engineer:Come on tk, you can't possibly be on the side of TW are you? He has stock in TW whats why he says that. I have stock in 100's of corporations around the globe. I have no special interest in TWC and I couldn't even tell you exactly how much I have invested there. But it would be much less than 1% of my portfolio. So that has no part in my feelings about this bill submitted by a brain dead populist idiot of a congresscritter.
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said by fAcEtIOUs:But I do believe that as a private corporation that TWC should be able to decide on how to price their services. What we don't need is more meddling in the decisions of individual corporations by the government. There is already too much of that now. Sure because corporations can be trusted not to abuse their market position (in data services) when competing with one another (in per-view video services). Because they can't be trusted is why we have an FTC in the first place.
If they aren't lying sacks of crap (like Bell Canada) they'll get their 'needed' price schedule. But they can not be permitted to raise HSI rates in defense of video revenues.
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I've got a bunch of stocks too, however, I don't want to have to pay $50 in overage costs to make a $5 dividend. And because someone actually has the balls to enact a law benefiting the consumer does not make him a populist. TW tryed to Madoff their consumer base, and you don't expect a reaction?
Think it through before you answer
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said by fAcEtIOUs:said by S_engineer:Come on tk, you can't possibly be on the side of TW are you? If I was CEO of TWC I wouldn't be pricing the way they planned on doing it. It was a supremely stupid move on their part. Their CEO should be summarily fired. I've posted here before on how I would structure prices. But I do believe that as a private corporation that TWC should be able to decide on how to price their services. What we don't need is more meddling in the decisions of individual corporations by the government. There is already too much of that now. I'm sorry, but you're wrong Tk. De-regulation has gotten us nothing but pathetic speeds at high prices. And now the pig is back at the trough to feed some more. It's time the government stepped in and either force these companies to offer top-notch, world-leading broadband, or require them to prove to us why they continue to raise rates and implement blatantly obvious plans to stifle competition while offering broadband speeds on par with Estonia. If the broadband landscape was rife with competition like the Northeast US, I would agree that the government should butt out; however, it's not.
I hope everyone writes their local representatives in support of this bill. I know I will. |
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said by fAcEtIOUs:This bill is populist nonsense by a Congressman peeved at TWC and their metered billing plans. And that's bad because....?
Yeah, we know it's not likely to succeed... but it's worth it to at least try.
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said by S_engineer:Come on tk, you can't possibly be on the side of TW are you? You can't possibly be surprised. 
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said by fAcEtIOUs:But I do believe that as a private corporation that TWC should be able to decide on how to price their services. What we don't need is more meddling in the decisions of individual corporations by the government. There is already too much of that now. Congress disagrees with you, even without this law, the law requires the FCC to regulate communications providers such that charges for services are reasonable.
And before you declare TWC's network as "private," consider the significant public and non-TWC-owned private property that it sits on and the competition-exclusive government agreements that allowed it to be established. That doesn't make it public property, but it does mean that there's a significant public interest in it.
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I tend to agree on both of your statements.
Personally, I would have expected TWC/AT&T to 'highball' the CAPS like Comcast did, but I expect that they're under pressure for profit (Comcast's typically charges more than TWC to begin with)
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said by KrK:said by fAcEtIOUs:This bill is populist nonsense by a Congressman peeved at TWC and their metered billing plans. And that's bad because....? Yeah, we know it's not likely to succeed... but it's worth it to at least try. You can just see Massa playing the part of LambChop to Free Press' Shari Lewis. I am sure they wrote this part of Massa's statement for him:
"Cable providers want to stifle the internet so they can rake in advertiser dollars by keeping consumers from watching video on the Internet. But so long as Americans can't choose which cable channels they want to pay for, I don't think cable operators should be able to determine consumers' monthly internet usage. Additionally, charging based on a bandwidth usage is a flawed model when the cost of usage is totally out of line with the price. Consumers are much better served by plans based on the speed of the connection rather than amount of bandwidth used Massa the Sock Puppet.
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Yeah, but it's a cute and fuzzy Sock Puppet!
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More bad news for the bill Neither Massa nor the 2 cosponsors are on the Energy and Commerce Committee that will decide whether this bill moves out of committee.
And that Committee has a lot of members friendly to the cable & telco industries.
»energycommerce.house.gov/index.p···temid=61
And the subcommittee likely to get this:
»energycommerce.house.gov/index.p···temid=61
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