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 Jafo232You Can't Spell Democrat Without Rat.Premium
join:2002-10-17
Boonville, NY
1 edit | reply to k1ll3rdr4g0n
Re: Excellent..... said by k1ll3rdr4g0n:I'll bet any amount of money that you would be singing a different tune if your ISP just put a 5GB cap on your connection. Look past your own situation - providers just don't want to provide a fair pricing model, they basically want to make the internet less appealing for high-bandwidth applications such as video. Comcast has been generous, but they already had a "hidden cap" - but you know a company like Time Warner if given the chance to implement caps would just decrease them yearly..."because of tough economic times your new cap is 20GB...10GB...5GB....1KB". Is that the kind of power that you want ISPs to have? I sure don't. If there is competition, then sooner or later, one is going to offer a better cap than the other, until eventually it is unlimited. The same thing happened in the 90's. I remember when dialup was metered until eventually "unlimited access" became the popular keyphrase.
With a monopoly there is no competition, and that is when more regulation is necessary.
Now if collusion is found between two competitors to shaft the consumer, well there are already laws against that.
Somehow though I am starting to feel that there is a movement out there that many seem to think there is some unalienable right to unlimited access, which I disagree with.
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Willseyville, NY | Oh, I'm a strong supporter of flat rate, no cap. But yes, I think again we in the US mostly get the worst of both worlds.
We either need the government regulated utility style, hopefully done up like NYSEG does with the utility owning the lines and charging a reasonable and set rate for maintaining them, and you buying internet access from any electricity vendor you like at their plan / rate / deal...
Or, we need to open up and let many more companies run lines, put up WISP towers, run cable whatever...
I prefer the first as I think it really is working well for NYers in that you can get better rates on electricity now but there aren't 500 different sets of power lines running by.
I suppose we could use the PUC etc to regulate the existing vendors, but I think it would be better to just open up the lines like we did for local and LD phone service so everyone who cares to compete can link in at the CO or whatever...
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said by Jafo232:said by k1ll3rdr4g0n:I'll bet any amount of money that you would be singing a different tune if your ISP just put a 5GB cap on your connection. Look past your own situation - providers just don't want to provide a fair pricing model, they basically want to make the internet less appealing for high-bandwidth applications such as video. Comcast has been generous, but they already had a "hidden cap" - but you know a company like Time Warner if given the chance to implement caps would just decrease them yearly..."because of tough economic times your new cap is 20GB...10GB...5GB....1KB". Is that the kind of power that you want ISPs to have? I sure don't. If there is competition, then sooner or later, one is going to offer a better cap than the other, until eventually it is unlimited. The same thing happened in the 90's. I remember when dialup was metered until eventually "unlimited access" became the popular keyphrase. With a monopoly there is no competition, and that is when more regulation is necessary. Now if collusion is found between two competitors to shaft the consumer, well there are already laws against that. Somehow though I am starting to feel that there is a movement out there that many seem to think there is some unalienable right to unlimited access, which I disagree with. ISPs have monopolies in many areas which is why regulation is required. In my area for example I can either goto AT&T for DSL (which the slots are probably filled up) or Comcast. Doesn't seem like much of a choice to me considering my choice will probably HAVE to be Comcast.
Perhaps you are right and it is just a matter of time before ISPs overlap and compete, but dial-up was a good competing business because your neighborhood didn't have to wired for it. All you needed was dial tone and you could use dial-up internet. Plus, the fact that phone companies had to line share which made dial-up the perfect free-enterprise business because all businesses were competing for your dollar. Today's ISPs? Not so much. Don't like Comcast? Then you don't get HSI, simple as that... | | |
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