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FFH
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Re: More skewed stats....

Frontier would go from 2.3 million lines to 4.8 million phone lines and 1 million broadband connections. »money.aol.com/article/verizon-fr···l/479784

Certainly a big increase. But nothing like the distortion in the story of going from 480 to 435,000 in 1 state.
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pizz
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said by FFH:

Frontier would go from 2.3 million lines to 4.8 million phone lines and 1 million broadband connections. »money.aol.com/article/verizon-fr···l/479784

Certainly a big increase. But nothing like the distortion in the story of going from 480 to 435,000 in 1 state.
Where is the distortion in the news piece? Do you and others just skim by a few lines, and not read the entire the news piece. He pointed out 1 county in ohio having only 480 customers, to getting nearly 500k subs, close to 77 counties.

my son told me a great line. /facepalm lol
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Karl Bode
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Frontier would go from 2.3 million lines to 4.8 million phone lines and 1 million broadband connections.
Actually, it's taking 2.3 million lines and adding 4.8 million more lines and 1 million broadband connections, not totaling 4.8 million phone lines.

Huge, huge growth for a fairly small operator.

"With more than 7 million access lines in 27 states, we will be the largest provider of voice, broadband and video services focused on rural to smaller city markets in the United States," the CEO announced back when the deal dropped.


S_engineer
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hey karl, hit the link I posted on top, and see If I'm right about Frontier taking over regardless of this suspension.
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Karl Bode
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I think you're right. I'll add that to the writeup...thank you....

Going to fling the wording at a municipal attorney I know to confirm.....



FFH
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said by S_engineer:

hey karl, hit the link I posted on top, and see If I'm right about Frontier taking over regardless of this suspension.
That isn't the way I read that info. The suspension stops the automatic 30 day clock. And the 30 day clock won't resume UNTIL the suspension is lifted. The suspension WAS an order issued before the 30 day clock expired.

If the commission had not issued the suspension(or a denial), then the merger would have been approved automatically on June 29.
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S_engineer
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upon rereading...you may be right tk



pugetsounder

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reply to pizz

imho it is a distortion.

i work in washington state, where frontier has ZERO subscribers.

i don't know how many lines we have (between copper, fios, and fios tv), but i do know washington has 6.5 million people and we carry a SIGNIFICANT percentage of the state.

prior to verizon, GTE Northwest headquartered in Everett, WA was a nearly autonomous operation that ran all of WA, Oregon, Idaho, and northern California.

Since verizon, alot of operations have been gutted/phased out to groups in southern california, but we still have a big arsed building with an FSC, sales groups and still a whole of administration.

i don't know the extent of the verizon operations in ohio, but the article and the DISTORTION of the jump from 480 to 1/2 million subs makes it sound like all the current vz operations will pack up and leave.

even in oregon frontier only has one CO to my knowledge in Myrtle Creek (try and find it on a map).

i've heard verizon is replicating all of the vz systems from billing(don't laugh) to provisioning and all of the divested areas will run of the systems while they are cut away become independent. then frontier will merge them into their systems over time.

i'm not an apologist for frontier or verizon. but i'm cautiously optimistic that this will work out alot better than fairpoint or hawaiian telecom.


hottboiinnc
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Ohio HAD GTE's offices here. They had a HUGE office with all the Excs and such and then a call center down the road a ways. VZ took over, the HQ was phased out, and what was left of the employees were moved to the call center in the basement, sales was pretty much in another state, Tech support in the Ohio office was next to nothing, Repair field tech's were worthless.

Ohio was all system run and only needed human input for orders, after VZ that went away and everything now takes a human that is lucky if they know what they're doing.