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[Auto] The End of F1?! in Sports Chat http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22576118 en Sun, 06 Dec 2009 00:23:41 EDT Sun, 06 Dec 2009 00:23:41 EDT Re: [Auto] The End of F1?! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22682663 Warzau : Wake me when it's over. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22682663 Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:51:30 EDT Re: [Auto] The End of F1?! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22676834 zaldy : Max Mosley is determined to destroy F1 »tiny.cc/AzVpo

FOTA should go ahead with the breakaway series. Max will go down in history as the man who killed F1.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22676834 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:59:27 EDT Re: [Auto] The End of F1?! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22676420 CylonRed : Looks like I need to stick/switch to ALMS and the Rolex series.

:(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22676420 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:50:05 EDT Re: [Auto] The End of F1?! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22676115 bjf123 : They're at it again.

»news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsp···1428.stm]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22676115 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:46:44 EDT Re: [Auto] The End of F1?! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22644038 zxt : Gracia head of Spanish Motorsports says Mosley could run for re-election -> »www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/76621

There's more news about the the political row than races nowadays.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22644038 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:58:34 EDT Re: [Auto] The End of F1?! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22635618 Warzau : I saw that last week, ridiculous.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22635618 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:17:52 EDT Re: [Auto] The End of F1?! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22633326 zxt : Looks like Max isn't going down without a fight...he's trying to break up FOTA again and says "might" seek re election again in October.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22633326 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:27:43 EDT Re: [Auto] The End of F1?! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22612421 bjf123 : I was at the Canadian GP a few years ago and didn't get any feel for them not wanting English only speaking visitors. We had a great time and would have no hesitation going back. I've also been to Silverstone for the British GP, also a great time.
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Golf is a relatively simple game, played by reasonably intelligent people, stupidly. | In a Roadster club?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22612421 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:49:36 EDT Re: [Auto] The End of F1?! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22610282 proefain :

said by bjf123

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Now, let's see if Montreal or Indy can get back on the calendar

eh, Indy to me is an oval course that has a makeshift road course and even though Montreal is a good venue the people don't really want english speaking visitors so it doesn't seem like a big loss to me.

The British GP is the one I'd go see even if they still raced here in NA.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22610282 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:23:06 EDT Re: [Auto] The End of F1?! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22607782 anon :

said by zaldy

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I'm kinda dissapointed because I'm getting excited for the new series. Oh well...yeah at least Mosley will be gone.

here you go :
»www.crash.net/f1/news/148831/1/b···hem.html]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22607782 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:37:06 EDT Re: [Auto] The End of F1?! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22607246 zaldy : I'm kinda dissapointed because I'm getting excited for the new series. Oh well...yeah at least Mosley will be gone.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22607246 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 05:49:11 EDT Re: [Auto] The End of F1?! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22604444 bjf123 : Glad to hear they got everything worked out. Now, let's see if Montreal or Indy can get back on the calendar (I think there's a better shot at Montreal).
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Mosley states agreement with rebel teams
Following today's World Motor Sport Council meeting held in Paris, FIA President Max Mosley stated that an agreement has been reached with the FOTA alliance, thereby putting an end to the rebel teams' plans to set up a breakaway series next year.

"There will be no split," Mosley announced. "We have agreed to a reduction of costs."

Mosley added: "There will be one F1 championship but the objective is to get back to the spending levels of the early 1990s within two years."
(story continues)

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22601958 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:06:05 EDT Re: [Auto] The End of F1?! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22592144 bjf123 : I think it's just more posturing. I saw somewhere that Bernie is now in favor of dropping the budget caps. He knows that F1 needs Ferrari, and to a lesser extent McLaren and the others. I still think they'll work something out. There's a meeting of some sort on Wednesday with the World Motor Sport Council. Maybe if they throw Max out, things can move forward.
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Golf is a relatively simple game, played by reasonably intelligent people, stupidly. | In a Roadster club?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22592144 Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:50:26 EDT Re: [Auto] The End of F1?! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22592047 Warzau : For all the talk Max is saying that they will reach a agreement FOTA says it's too late.

»www.itv-f1.com/news_article.aspx?id=46234]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22592047 Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:34:31 EDT Re: [Auto] The End of F1?! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22578505 bjf123 :

said by Warzau

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The plot thickens, You know who the fans will side with. This one is a dozy, the manufacturers have really deep pockets. To boot piss off Fota, Max is a moron.

Yep. Without Ferrari, McLaren, Renault, et.al., F1 is dead. Most fans will not show up to watch Williams, Force India, USF1, etc., race.
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Golf is a relatively simple game, played by reasonably intelligent people, stupidly. | In a Roadster club?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22578505 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:57:23 EDT Re: [Auto] The End of F1?! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22578313 Warzau : The plot thickens, You know who the fans will side with. This one is a dozy, the manufacturers have really deep pockets. To boot piss off Fota, Max is a moron.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22578313 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:29:11 EDT Re: [Auto] The End of F1?! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22578211 CylonRed : »sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slu···ype=lgns

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SILVERSTONE, England(AP)â€”Formula One intends to sue the eight teams that announced plans for a rival series next season - the biggest crisis to engulf the sport since the championship began in 1950.

The governing body accused the Formula One Teams Association of “serious violations of law.” The breakaway came after Ferrari, championship leader Brawn GP and six other teams failed to resolve a dispute over the introduction of a budget cap for next season.

“The actions of FOTA as a whole, and Ferrari in particular, amount to serious violations of law, including willful interference with contractual relations, direct breaches of Ferrari’s legal obligations and a grave violation of competition law,” the organization said in a statement.
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The ruling body, known as FIA, has delayed publishing the final entry list for the 2010 season. It said it will begin legal proceedings “without delay.”

FIA president Max Mosley is trying to prevent the departure of Ferrari, which has participated since that inaugural series, Brawn GP, McLaren, Renault, Toyota, BMW Sauber, Red Bull Racing and Toro Rosso.

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"It drops into your stomach like a Abrams's tank.... driven by Rosanne Barr..." A. Bourdain]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22578211 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:15:50 EDT Re: [Auto] The End of F1?! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22578162 Warzau : I think that is the point that, they are tired of El Supremo and they're not gonna take it anymore.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22578162 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:08:40 EDT Re: [Auto] The End of F1?! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22578105 PDXracer : Wow ....

Did not check on any news in past 24 hours because have been moving, and wake up to hear this.

Another split in open wheel racing would be a disaster in my opinion, and do believe that FOTA is doing this to negotiate with the FIA.
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The path that leads to truth is littered with the bodies of the ignorant - Miyamoto Musashi]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22578105 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:59:39 EDT Re: [Auto] The End of F1?! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22577289 CylonRed : The next turn of events will be interesting - F1 will be dead without the big boys and they know it. It maybe another couple of months before an agreement is reached but I do expect one as well.
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"It drops into your stomach like a Abrams's tank.... driven by Rosanne Barr..." A. Bourdain]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22577289 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 10:45:54 EDT Re: [Auto] The End of F1?! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22576815 bjf123 : I think this is just the next "step" in negotiations between the teams and Max/Bernie. I still think they'll reach an agreement. I did see a translation of something from the Monaco organizers telling the FIA that if the top teams are not in F1, they will not renew their contract when it expires next year. I'm thinking a lot of organizers will be saying the same thing. They're not going to pay Bernie his insane sanctioning fees if the big boys aren't racing.
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Golf is a relatively simple game, played by reasonably intelligent people, stupidly. | In a Roadster club?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22576815 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 09:03:37 EDT [Auto] The End of F1?! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22576118 Warzau : They been threating for years now. Now they went and did it.

The Formula One Teams’ Association has thrown the sport into total chaos by announcing its eight members will set up their own breakaway series at the end of the season.

The teams are Brawn GP, Ferrari, McLaren, Renault, Toyota, BMW Sauber, Red Bull Racing and Toro Rosso.

»www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=46159
»news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsp···8488.stm
»www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/76292

Seems this will do to F1 what IRL did to CART? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22576118 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 01:23:28 EDT