Topic 'Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant' in forum 'World of Warcraft' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22576685 en Sat, 11 Feb 2012 08:16:04 EDT Sat, 11 Feb 2012 08:16:04 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22669627 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22669627 Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:04:24 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22648598 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22648598 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 06:54:13 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22647241
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said by longstreet:

Even then if you skipped that quest, it took a week and a half, doing it every day, tops.
Apparently your week and a half is different then the near month that it took everyone else.
Once I started grinding, maybe 2 weeks. 25 days? Maybe if you slacked ass.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22646651 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:23:40 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22636814
If you decide to master Inscription, their shoulder enchants blow away even the SoH enchants, in which case you can put SoH rep on the back burner.

Herbalism and Inscription go hand-in-hand, though. Especially for high-end things, you'll end up paying a boatload for mats. I'd suggest rolling a DK to 80 to gather mats (if you don't have another 80).
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It seems the Dominance enchant slightly outweighs the lesser storm enchant.

Thanks heaps for the dps theorycraft post.

I've been pondering re-rolling from herbalism to enchanting/jewelcrafting/inscription. Because i'm a casual player, i'm finding more and more that I just don't have the time to spend farming herbs.

I pretty much log on to raid, and that's it. Although at the moment i've been logging on a little extra to get my SoH rep up.

P.S.

One thing i'm curious about on that theorycraft thread is, what do they mean about naxxramas geared and ulduar geared changing the stat weights?

I'm predominantly Ulduar 10/Naxx 25 geared at the moment (i213-i219)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22636454 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:10:47 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22636115 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22636115 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:58:45 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22636112
Personally, I have two toons exalted with SoH and my 79 druid is a scribe.

EDIT: every now and then if I feel like making a quick "buck" i'll do their dailies. Do the hot/cold one along with 'blowing the horn'. Turn it in. Fly to the cave, kill 5 slimes. Exit the cave, throw snowballs at 5 worms. Let the wolf expose three spies. Catch a dragon back to SoH. Done.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22636112 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:58:02 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22635923
said by Mashiki:

said by Krisnatharok:

Without turning in any Everfrost ...
Wow pretty good for guesstimating out of my ass. :)
Right on!
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Without turning in any Everfrost ...
Wow pretty good for guesstimating out of my ass. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22635751 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:43:03 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22633169 said by Krisnatharok:

At level 80, 45.91 critical strike rating translates into 1% critical strike. So you are talking 0.26% crit rating or 5sp...

Ah hah, found the answer.

»wowmb.net/forums/f22/33067-when_···llpower/

For a Naxxramas starter gear / Ulduar Starter Gear , the stat-to-dps ratios of these are:
10 hit rating = 10.61 dps -> 15.85 dps
10 spell power = 11.33 dps -> 12.49 dps
10 haste rating = 6.00 dps -> 8.53 dps
10 spirit = 3.74 dps -> 4.12 dps
10 crit rating = 3.74 dps -> 5.58 dps
10 int = 1.13 dps -> 1.69 dps
Some quick calculations provides the following:

DPS per 1 crit rating: 0.37-0.56
DPS per 1 spellpower: 1.13-1.25

More calcs on the Storm (PVE) and Dominance (PVP) enchants yield the following results:

Storm: 24.13-28.06 dps increase (15% subject to DR)
Dominance: 26.06-28.73 dps increase (not subject to DR)

I think the clear winner here is the WG shoulders. Consider the resil dead weight.

EDIT: Here are the item stats:
Inscription of Dominance: Permanently adds 23 spell power and 15 resilience rating to a shoulder slot item.

Lesser Inscription of the Storm: Permanently adds 18 spell power and 10 critical strike rating to a shoulder slot item.
This all depends on what crits offers vs spellpower. For a boomkin or fire mage crit is the key to the spec. If you start losing .25% crit here and .25% crit there for SP next thing you know your down a few % and procing less crit abilities translating into lower dps even with the increased SP.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22633169 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:07:27 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22632245
Ah hah, found the answer.

»wowmb.net/forums/f22/33067-when_···llpower/

For a Naxxramas starter gear / Ulduar Starter Gear , the stat-to-dps ratios of these are:
10 hit rating = 10.61 dps -> 15.85 dps
10 spell power = 11.33 dps -> 12.49 dps
10 haste rating = 6.00 dps -> 8.53 dps
10 spirit = 3.74 dps -> 4.12 dps
10 crit rating = 3.74 dps -> 5.58 dps
10 int = 1.13 dps -> 1.69 dps
Some quick calculations provides the following:

DPS per 1 crit rating: 0.37-0.56
DPS per 1 spellpower: 1.13-1.25

More calcs on the Storm (PVE) and Dominance (PVP) enchants yield the following results:

Storm: 24.13-28.06 dps increase (15% subject to DR)
Dominance: 26.06-28.73 dps increase (not subject to DR)

I think the clear winner here is the WG shoulders. Consider the resil dead weight.

EDIT: Here are the item stats:
Inscription of Dominance: Permanently adds 23 spell power and 15 resilience rating to a shoulder slot item.

Lesser Inscription of the Storm: Permanently adds 18 spell power and 10 critical strike rating to a shoulder slot item.
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Usually we itemise for SP above all else (aside from hit), which is why i'm curious if that 12 crit rating outweighs an extra 5 spell power.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22632213 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:42:02 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22632191
* Friendly to Honored - 8 days - 6,000
* Honored to Revered - 8 days - 12,000
* Revered to Exalted - 11 days - 21,000

www.wowwiki.com/Sons_of_Hodir
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Source: Lt. Col. Jean V. Dubois (Ret.), Starship Troopers]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22632191 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:27:36 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22632178 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22632178 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:21:34 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22632169 said by Krisnatharok:

I too do not have access to to the EJ forums atm, but sp/crit is going to be a better combo than sp/resil.

The exalted enchant is also going to be better than a WG enchant.
I know the exalted Sp/crit enchant will be better than the WG one, but is the honored SP/Crit enchant better than the WG one?

I.E. is 18SP + 12 crit rating more dps than 23SP?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22632169 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:17:32 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22631894
The exalted enchant is also going to be better than a WG enchant.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22631894 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:25:55 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22631865
The SoH (honored) is something like

18SP + 12 critical strike

Wintergrasp is:

23SP + 20 resiliance (or something)

I'm at work and can't access the elitist jerks forums.

Just to decide whether to get the honored enchant whilst i grind out the rep for the exalted enchant.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22631865 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:18:10 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22631530 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22631530 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:47:38 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22630962 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22630962 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:56:55 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22629892 said by longstreet:

Even then if you skipped that quest, it took a week and a half, doing it every day, tops. Apparently your week and a half is different then the near month that it took everyone else.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22629892 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:30:16 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22628735 --
I'd take the time to insult your intelligence, but you probably wouldn't get it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22628735 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:08:57 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22628226 said by Mashiki:

I like how all the people say "SoH" isn't hard, it's not hard now. It was such a pita back when people could steal your corpses, and the only way to get rep was through dailies. :p
Even then if you skipped that quest, it took a week and a half, doing it every day, tops.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22628226 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:37:07 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22626639 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22626639 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:33:23 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22625455 said by Pariah666:

But it is all done now and I can get to farming to earn my gold back:P
By.... doing the SoH dailies? ;-)

Only dailies I do are Argent tourney and the JC quest. And the weekly WG ones when they open up. :P
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It was not fun, and on my next 80 I plan to do minimal dailies and just turn in the damn relics.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22620671 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:01:04 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22620656 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22620656 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:57:09 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22619401 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22619401 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 04:31:57 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22585887
Once you are revered you'll be pulling 3000 rep a day if you do the daily quests.

40 badges = 1000 rep, so check out the AH after

120 badges is probably somewhere in 100-200 gold . . so with daily quests, it's not hard to farm rep, get a bit of gold and make the grind alot quicker.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22585887 Sun, 21 Jun 2009 04:11:19 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22582338 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22582338 Sat, 20 Jun 2009 09:35:52 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22582114 said by Pariah666:

I have not begun the rep grind for SoH yet however I imagine that their tabard is the same as all the others. If you wear it in LVL 80 HEROIC instances it will convert the rep...has to be heroic though.There is no tabard for SoH. Not at friendly, not at honored, never.

I just completed the rep grind to exalted on my druid and there is a not-so-well-known secret to get a bunch of rep really quickly at no cost: gather everfrost chips. They are small and not very easy to see and won't be picked up by find treasure or similar abilities, but they give 350 rep each as well as 6.5g when turned in. They spawn around the Valley of Ancient Winters, Dun Niffelem, Frostfield Lake, and Thunderfall. Some spawn in the open, but many spawn right next to groups of trees on the edges of the zones. With the everfrost chips and the dailies I got from about 2k into revered up to exalted in about 3 days of casual farming (no more than 6 hours total spent farming, much of it was while I did my circuit for dailies).

If you need to see where they spawn or what they look like the major database sites will have info on them. I just found the first one by accident and then looked it up. No gathering skills are required to farm these.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22582114 Sat, 20 Jun 2009 07:36:51 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22581984 said by Omega:

said by Ryokincaid:

Also, don't forget at Friendly you can buy the SoH tabard, which converts all level 80 instance rep to SoH rep. Do some instances runs each day, and it won't take long at all
False information.
I have not begun the rep grind for SoH yet however I imagine that their tabard is the same as all the others. If you wear it in LVL 80 HEROIC instances it will convert the rep...has to be heroic though.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22581984 Sat, 20 Jun 2009 05:39:26 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22579959 said by Ryokincaid:

Also, don't forget at Friendly you can buy the SoH tabard, which converts all level 80 instance rep to SoH rep. Do some instances runs each day, and it won't take long at all
False information.
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Do the dailies and buy relics off the AH whenever the price is good.

300 or so took me from 11000 to 21000 IIRC.

maybe no more than two weeks effort, no more than 20 minutes each day.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22579685 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:27:17 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22579266 said by xcal784:

said by Ryokincaid:

Also, don't forget at Friendly you can buy the SoH tabard, which converts all level 80 instance rep to SoH rep. Do some instances runs each day, and it won't take long at all
When did they add a SoH tabard?
They didn't.

Having ignored SoH previously, now I'm working on rep with them. It's not that bad- buy relics from the AH when you can find them reasonably cheap, and run dailies which offer some extra gold anyways.

Keep in mind that once you hit honored and revered, a new daily quest opens up. Between the relics you might buy from the AH, the relics that drop while doing the dailies, and the rep from the dailies themselves, it's not that bad a grind.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22579266 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:15:30 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22579100 said by Ryokincaid:

Also, don't forget at Friendly you can buy the SoH tabard, which converts all level 80 instance rep to SoH rep. Do some instances runs each day, and it won't take long at all
When did they add a SoH tabard?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22579100 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:44:38 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22579007 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22579007 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:29:34 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22578479 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22578479 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:51:49 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22578453 said by xcal784:

said by JB:

Don't forget you can get shoulder enchants for shards as well. I know they're not the greatest but at least it's something.
Ooo yea Scyer/Aldor shoulder chants are still out there.
Actually I compared exalted Aldor/Scryers is the equivilent to honored SoH. (Or I think so) -_-]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22578453 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:49:03 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22578443 said by uvray:

said by DownLow:

Yes, you need to do the quest chain that opens up the dailies first otherwise you can't turn in the relics (although I thought you can do that at neutral - sorry, its been a year or 2 since I did those quests).
FYI "a year or two" = 7 months tops
Sorry..it feels that way!
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Don't forget you can get shoulder enchants for shards as well. I know they're not the greatest but at least it's something.
Ooo yea Scyer/Aldor shoulder chants are still out there.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22578342 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:34:30 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22578294 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22578294 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:26:43 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22578053 said by lolcatzar:

For me spending 1500-2000 gold on a shoulder enchant is a bit much when you could get a 10 man BOE Ulduar drop with better stat increases for the same amount. But if you're in a hurry that's what it usually costs.
Nice info and post overall. I will add that your BoE drop item is worth 0g once you upgrade where the rep will work for all upgrades. The other road you can take is inscriptions. If you get that to 400 you can skip SoH rep completely and you still have a nice trade to make gold with. That road costs about the same as buying the relics but you get a 400 skill trade too.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22578053 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:51:52 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22577971
After that a non-human would need to buy the following.

120 to reach Friendly.

240 more to reach Honored.

480 more to reach Revered.

840 more to reach Exalted.

That's a total of 1680 to reach Exalted if you didn't do a single quest.

You could save a fair amount of gold by doing the 3 or 4 quests that take under 5 minutes to complete, and often end up with 10 or 20 relics without trying as a bonus.

For me spending 1500-2000 gold on a shoulder enchant is a bit much when you could get a 10 man BOE Ulduar drop with better stat increases for the same amount. But if you're in a hurry that's what it usually costs.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22577971 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:42:23 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22577774 said by DownLow:

Yes, you need to do the quest chain that opens up the dailies first otherwise you can't turn in the relics (although I thought you can do that at neutral - sorry, its been a year or 2 since I did those quests).
FYI "a year or two" = 7 months tops]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22577774 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:11:22 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22577772 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22577772 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:11:14 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22577638 --
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You get 250 (275 as human) per turn in of 10 relics, so do some maths (yes, maths :p) based off of where you're at currently with them.

3,000 - Neutral to Friendly
6,000? - Friendly to Honored
12,000? - Honored to Revered
21,000 - Revered to Exalted
You have to be friendly (do the pre-req chain) before any of the dailies even open up. I think -_- (Sorry if I'm wrong)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22577622 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:45:29 EDT Re: Question About SoH Shoulder Enchant http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22576793 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Question-About-SoH-Shoulder-Enchant-22576793 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 09:02:28 EDT