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Re: [Newsgroups] Searching UseNet Question? What makes the Diffe
said by EvilByDesire  :said by darcilicious :NZB files aren't going anywhere  not as of right now, but things change, and alls im saying is be prepared when/if it does.. What kind of usenet'er would not be prepared for change??
We used to have download headers.. (obviously some still do..) we used to not have PAR's where we would have to beg the poster for a repaired file.. way back in the day I believe we didn't have MIME or PNG 
Things have been advancing nicely as far as I'm concerned.. newsleecher, par and rar auto extraction and NZB are all breakthroughs not to mention Newzbin catching 70-80% and saving much time on your life for data collection..
Even if newzbin dies.. I don't think NZB is going away.. seems well entrenched by posters.. and posters make usenet what it is.. if it does go away it will have to be replaced by a better system..
As for the idea of a "Fear" sell on filesharing via usenet ending.. I'll take a pass on that.. your welcome to think what you like.. |
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said by EvilByDesire :the nzb standard might go away A defined standard for the content and formatting of a text file might go away?
I'll go out on a limb here and say 'never'. |
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said by EvilByDesire :said by darcilicious :NZB files aren't going anywhere not as of right now, but things change, and alls im saying is be prepared when/if it does.. Exactly always have a plan A and B! |
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said by EvilByDesire :said by ophelus :said by imtim83 :When I first learned usenet I did everything the old fashion way. It really isn't that difficult if you know what your doing, like you said. Quite fun actually. If all the free nzb sites or even all of them disapppeared I don't think it would be that big of a deal. I just go back to the old fashion way! Yah, but old fashion way = more work.. I embrace things that make it quick.. we can't go back to the old fashion way.. it's travelling backwards.. but we could use newsgroups to create.. NZB's only.. which probably exist I just haven't looked at e'm.. (not probably heavily used at this time either) you better learn the old way, only time will tell when nzb sites go away.. And it not learning backwards, its learning how to do it the correct way.. Yep. It was how usenet was meant to be used that way not everyone and their brother knows how to do it. The more attention a file sharing method gets the worst it is. |
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said by EvilByDesire :What i mean is that the old way of using headers and sorting for your self and not using nzbs.. I know exactly what you mean by by using headers and sorting through them manually. I've been using Usenet off and on since 1986.
Your "might" statements regarding nzb and torrent *files* seem to be more FUD-oriented than anything else. |
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said by darcilicious :said by EvilByDesire :said by darcilicious :NZB files aren't going anywhere not as of right now, but things change, and alls im saying is be prepared when/if it does.. You've heard of nzb newsgroups, right? If so, WHY do you think those will disappear? They are (or could be) entirely independent of any "nzb website"... i know exactly what a nzb group is, the nzb standard might go away just like torrents might..
What i mean is that the old way of using headers and sorting for your self and not using nzbs..
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said by EvilByDesire :said by darcilicious :NZB files aren't going anywhere not as of right now, but things change, and alls im saying is be prepared when/if it does.. You've heard of nzb newsgroups, right? If so, WHY do you think those will disappear? They are (or could be) entirely independent of any "nzb website"... |
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said by darcilicious :NZB files aren't going anywhere not as of right now, but things change, and alls im saying is be prepared when/if it does..
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said by EvilByDesire :you better learn the old way, only time will tell when nzb sites go away.. But nzb groups will never die! Bwahahahaha 
And it not learning backwards, its learning how to do it the correct old skool way..
NZB files aren't going anywhere |
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said by ophelus :said by imtim83 :When I first learned usenet I did everything the old fashion way. It really isn't that difficult if you know what your doing, like you said. Quite fun actually. If all the free nzb sites or even all of them disapppeared I don't think it would be that big of a deal. I just go back to the old fashion way! Yah, but old fashion way = more work.. I embrace things that make it quick.. we can't go back to the old fashion way.. it's travelling backwards.. but we could use newsgroups to create.. NZB's only.. which probably exist I just haven't looked at e'm.. (not probably heavily used at this time either) you better learn the old way, only time will tell when nzb sites go away..
And it not learning backwards, its learning how to do it the correct way..
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said by imtim83 :When I first learned usenet I did everything the old fashion way. It really isn't that difficult if you know what your doing, like you said. Quite fun actually. If all the free nzb sites or even all of them disapppeared I don't think it would be that big of a deal. I just go back to the old fashion way! Yah, but old fashion way = more work.. I embrace things that make it quick.. we can't go back to the old fashion way.. it's travelling backwards.. but we could use newsgroups to create.. NZB's only.. which probably exist I just haven't looked at e'm.. (not probably heavily used at this time either) |
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said by EvilByDesire :said by ophelus :said by EvilByDesire :if you become a editor your credit days wont go down, they go up.. thats your reward for making reports What are you saying you don't have to meet a quota or something? i dunno i dont have a newzbin account anymore, they are useless if you know what your doing When I first learned usenet I did everything the old fashion way. It really isn't that difficult if you know what your doing, like you said. Quite fun actually. If all the free nzb sites or even all of them disapppeared I don't think it would be that big of a deal. I just go back to the old fashion way! |
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said by ophelus :said by EvilByDesire :if you become a editor your credit days wont go down, they go up.. thats your reward for making reports What are you saying you don't have to meet a quota or something? i dunno i dont have a newzbin account anymore, they are useless if you know what your doing
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speaking of SuperSearch on NewsLeecher...
does anyone know what source provider they are using to index the headers ?
and, as a comment, making SuperSearch and NewsLeecher work without having to buy and pay for it is quite easy, but following the forum rules, i have to plead the 5th here.
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said by EvilByDesire :if you become a editor your credit days wont go down, they go up.. thats your reward for making reports What are you saying you don't have to meet a quota or something? |
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if you become a editor your credit days wont go down, they go up.. thats your reward for making reports
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said by EvilByDesire :ya just apply to be a editor, then it will be YOUR job to make the reports for everyone else.. That doesn't sound like fun.. I just think there should be a user based submit.. simple..
said by swintec :Thats a good point...unfortunately, I do not have a full paid account at Newzbin so I don't have that ability.  You cheap bastard it's only like $1.50 a month if you buy at christmas time.. |
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said by Inflex :said by ophelus :said by swintec :So Newzbin may be better....but the downside to that is, the reports are compiled and edited by humans, so there is a great deal they miss..especially with the larger groups. I'm not sure what you’re talking about.. it's my understanding RAW mode is just like searching millions of headers.. lately I've had to go to raw mode a few times with Newzbin cause it usually only hits 70% or 80% whatever their claim numbers is these days It really is stupid that newzbin doesn't let users report un-indexed posts for the good of everyone.. ahh well maybe they'll be replaced if they lose their court case.. Just apply to be an editor. ya just apply to be a editor, then it will be YOUR job to make the reports for everyone else..
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said by ophelus :said by swintec :So Newzbin may be better....but the downside to that is, the reports are compiled and edited by humans, so there is a great deal they miss..especially with the larger groups. I'm not sure what you’re talking about.. it's my understanding RAW mode is just like searching millions of headers.. lately I've had to go to raw mode a few times with Newzbin cause it usually only hits 70% or 80% whatever their claim numbers is these days It really is stupid that newzbin doesn't let users report un-indexed posts for the good of everyone.. ahh well maybe they'll be replaced if they lose their court case.. Just apply to be an editor. |
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said by ophelus :I'm not sure what you’re talking about.. it's my understanding RAW mode is just like searching millions of headers.. Thats a good point...unfortunately, I do not have a full paid account at Newzbin so I don't have that ability.
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