 pflogBueller? Bueller?Premium,MVM
join:2001-09-01
El Dorado Hills, CA
kudos:3 | reply to Radio Active
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced... Sorry, mentioning this fluff thing again so any discussion related to it can continue in this thread from the other.
I'm hoping someone from Verizon can definitively explain this "fluff" thing and what it really means. I really hope it's not something like powerboost!
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 FiOS LIVESo fast, it's LIVE
join:2008-11-25
Collegeville, PA | I'm curious to know the details behind this "fluff" too. Sounds to me more like increased overhead or something.
On a side note: Speed tests indicate that I've lost up to 2 mbps only on my download side but upload is the same. What's the deal? |
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Cogdis
join:2007-03-26
Floral Park, NY | said by FiOS LIVE:I'm curious to know the details behind this "fluff" too. Sounds to me more like increased overhead or something. On a side note: Speed tests indicate that I've lost up to 2 mbps only on my download side but upload is the same. What's the deal? Ever since I got Fios in August of last year I always get 24-25 Mb/s on the upload (20/20 package). My download never goes past 19.7, but the upload gets 25% more than it should.
I wonder if I change to the 25/15 if I'll end up getting 20 up lol... |
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said by pflog:Sorry, mentioning this fluff thing again so any discussion related to it can continue in this thread from the other. I'm hoping someone from Verizon can definitively explain this "fluff" thing and what it really means. I really hope it's not something like powerboost! As far as I can tell, the term "fluff" was first mentioned here: »Re: Any new Speed tiers?
And that seems to refer to the practice of VZ over-provisioning the download speed so that when you do a speed test it shows the d/l speed you signed up for rather than a lower number caused by normal tcp/ip overhead so that folks won't complain that they aren't getting what they are paid for.
Hopefully vzguy1 will confirm but for now I would not assume that this is a gimmick like powerboost. |
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pflogBueller? Bueller?Premium,MVM
join:2001-09-01
El Dorado Hills, CA
kudos:3 | said by TheOtherPete:said by pflog:Sorry, mentioning this fluff thing again so any discussion related to it can continue in this thread from the other. I'm hoping someone from Verizon can definitively explain this "fluff" thing and what it really means. I really hope it's not something like powerboost! As far as I can tell, the term "fluff" was first mentioned here: » Re: Any new Speed tiers?And that seems to refer to the practice of VZ over-provisioning the download speed so that when you do a speed test it shows the d/l speed you signed up for rather than a lower number caused by normal tcp/ip overhead so that folks won't complain that they aren't getting what they are paid for. Hopefully vzguy1 will confirm but for now I would not assume that this is a gimmick like powerboost. I know a comparison was made and/or it was mentioned, but it sounded to me like it was something more significant than something compensating for the overhead of TCP/IP.
The overhead of TCP/IP is only about 2.67 %. So for a 25/15 plan, you'd be talking provisioned speeds 25.67 down and 15.4 up.
The 'fluff' seemed like it was something more, but I guess we'll find out Monday when some speed tests start flowing in 
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 NOYBSt. John 3.16Premium
join:2005-12-15
Forest Grove, OR
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No fluff.
Download Speed: 19642 kbps (2455.3 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 4610 kbps (576.3 KB/sec transfer rate)
Where's my fluff?
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 NY TelPremium
join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY
kudos:3
 ·AT&T CallVantage
| said by NOYB:No fluff. Download Speed: 19642 kbps (2455.3 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 4610 kbps (576.3 KB/sec transfer rate) Where's my fluff? That's normal for the 20X5 tier. |
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I think its only for new tiers like 25/15 and like 35/20 for the fluff.
also to the others THERE is not automatic upgrades you have to call to process or get the tier. |
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NOYBSt. John 3.16Premium
join:2005-12-15
Forest Grove, OR
kudos:1 | reply to NY Tel
said by NY Tel:said by NOYB:No fluff. Download Speed: 19642 kbps (2455.3 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 4610 kbps (576.3 KB/sec transfer rate) Where's my fluff? That's normal for the 20X5 tier.
Right. No fluff; allowance for TCP overhead.
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NY TelPremium
join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY
kudos:3 Reviews:
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Wait, I just saw the Verizon FiOS guy as I was getting off - He's the one on the right.... |
said by NOYB:said by NY Tel:said by NOYB:No fluff. Download Speed: 19642 kbps (2455.3 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 4610 kbps (576.3 KB/sec transfer rate) Where's my fluff? That's normal for the 20X5 tier. Right. No fluff; allowance for TCP overhead. No I do get fluff depending on the day of the week. I never get higher than 4800 on the upload and on the download I often get 22,000 but on average - my readings are close to yours and I am on PPPoE. |
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| getting about 26down/16 up now.
only a little fluff for me... |
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 SteelyI rise when the sun goes downPremium
join:2000-10-15
Princeton Junction, NJ
kudos:1 | Where are you located? "Fluff" may be somewhat area dependent! |
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 aaronwtPremium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
 ·Verizon FiOS
| said by Steely:Where are you located? "Fluff" may be somewhat area dependent! Yes, we have neagtive fluff here |
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| im in los angeles. my download tests at 26 but on FTP servers its been up to 31 |
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