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If this happened in the pros likely no one would have questioned the move. But, not sure why the rule exists in the first place, seems rather draconian.
quote: »sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/···=4263659
The grinch who stole a homer
Courtesy Brainerd Dispatch: Ashly Erickson, a 1B for Central Lakes College, hit a home run called back on a rules violation by the opposing coach.
This column originally appeared in the June 29 issue of ESPN The Magazine.
Some things are so small, so minuscule, so atomically insignificant, they can be seen only from three feet away using the Hubble telescope. The heart of Jean Musgjerd is one of these things.
She's the women's softball coach for Rochester (Minn.) Community and Technical College. Here's what Coach Musgjerd did -- and try to keep your lunch from rising up as you read:
It's this past May's Minnesota College Athletic Conference state tourney, and Central Lakes College is tied with Rochester, 0-0, bottom of the seventh and final inning. Central Lakes pitcher Olivia Graham has her first no-hitter going. Now, with Central Lakes at bat, she just has to hope her team can score a run to lock it up.
Sure enough, Central's freshman first baseman, Ashly Erickson, rips one over the fence. Game over. Madness erupts. As Erickson and her cantaloupe smile round third, some teammates high-five her. It's the greatest moment in her short softball life.
But when she touches the plate, the Rochester players begin shouting, "That's an out! She's out!" Then Musgjerd helpfully tells the ump that Erickson should be out since, according to the rules, teammates aren't allowed to "touch a batter or baserunner legally running the bases."
Central Lakes' interim coach, Heidi Rogge, was flabbergasted. She'd taken over only two weeks before, when the head coach suddenly quit. "I can't imagine a coach thinking that way," says Rogge, 28. "I couldn't be that petty. How can someone feel good calling that?"
The head ump for the tournament listened, shrugged and said, "Batter's out."
It was a walk-off-walk-back-on homer -- the first game ever lost by congratulations.
Erickson was crushed. "I thought, How can that not count? I hit it over the fence!"
So you can guess the rest. Graham lost her no-no in the ninth and Rochester won, 4-0. Musgjerd's integrity was in the Dumpster, but hey, her record improved. She didn't return my calls but did tell the Minneapolis Star Tribune: "You don't want to win in that way, but you have to play by the rules."
No. You do not want to win that way. Period. It's lower than mole excrement.
Worse, the Rochester players yelling "That's an out!" as soon as Erickson crossed the plate suggests the move was a stink bomb Musgjerd had been saving in her purse, ready to throw in the middle of somebody's parade. Who thinks that small?
I hate this kind of crap. There's nothing cheaper than using some tiny, unconnected technicality to rob somebody of her rightful moment of glory, won fair and square. It's the cheapest thing in sports: an adult pencil-whipping some kid just because she can. And my e-mail box fills up with these kinds of stories all the time.
I lost the pine box derby because a den master said I didn't fill out the form right.
They DQ'd our team because the coach found out I failed math class two years ago.
They said the goal didn't count because my jersey was out.
Makes me want to chew a hole through my desk.
For another thing, that's not even the rule! The rule states that the first infraction calls for a warning. Erickson should've just been warned, not called out. Would love to know what the umps were thinking on this. But they won't call back either.
It just didn't have to happen.
Remember what transpired just over a year ago in women's softball? A Western Oregon player hit a home run but, in her jubilation, ripped her knee touching first. Nobody knew what to do. Because of this stupid rule, her teammates and coaches couldn't help her round the bases. And that's when two kids on the other team -- Central Washington -- decided to carry her around the bases. Imagine that: sportsmanship.
The whole thing still leaves the 18-year-old Erickson wondering what the adult world is coming to. If she ever becomes a coach, will she make the same call to save a win? "No. No way. They would have earned that home run. That should be their glory. I'd let it go. 'Cuz that's not right."
No, it isn't. And if Coach Musgjerd has a thimbleful of self-respect left, she should call up Rogge today and forfeit the win, because both she and the umps had it wrong. She should say, "Turns out it should've been a warning, not an out. You win. Congrats."
Because, after all, you have to play by the rules.
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  Warzau Premium join:2000-10-26 Naperville, IL clubs: | Sorry rules are rules, notice in the MLB or The Minors they wait until the player reaches home to mob him. It might not be right, but I wonder how she would feel if it was on the other side and it was a Championship game. |
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| said by Warzau :Sorry rules are rules, notice in the MLB or The Minors they wait until the player reaches home to mob him. It might not be right, but I wonder how she would feel if it was on the other side and it was a Championship game. You musta forgotten about Robin Ventura's legendary Grand Slam Single. -- You're so vain... I bet you think this post is about you. |
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join:2002-02-05 Far Rockaway, NY | reply to sonofjay Sportsmanship is increasingly hard to find in all levels of sports. And it should have been a warning? lol. I'd be pissed. |
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| reply to Warzau said by Warzau :Sorry rules are rules, notice in the MLB or The Minors they wait until the player reaches home to mob him. If that's your argument, then it's clear a mistake was made. From the article:
said by sonofjay :For another thing, that's not even the rule! The rule states that the first infraction calls for a warning. |
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| Yep - take away the Pirates' 1960 World Series rings, because the third base coach patted Maz on the back as he rounded third on the series ending homer.
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| reply to fatness said by fatness :said by Warzau :Sorry rules are rules, notice in the MLB or The Minors they wait until the player reaches home to mob him. If that's your argument, then it's clear a mistake was made. From the article: said by sonofjay :For another thing, that's not even the rule! The rule states that the first infraction calls for a warning. I would like to see a copy of the rule that the article allegedly states as fact. -- NEWS
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| reply to rockotman said by rockotman :Yep - take away the Pirates' 1960 World Series rings, because the third base coach patted Maz on the back as he rounded third on the series ending homer. (youtube clip) not. Not really since he "didn't assist him to base" 7.09h |
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  Warzau Premium join:2000-10-26 Naperville, IL clubs: | reply to sonofjay Been reading the MLB rules and I see nothing regarding touch a player. Only rules stipulating how the bases need to run, also even if a HR is walkoff HR the player must touch all bases, or cannot leave running line even after a HR, etc,etc. |
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| reply to Warzau said by Warzau :said by rockotman :Yep - take away the Pirates' 1960 World Series rings, because the third base coach patted Maz on the back as he rounded third on the series ending homer. (youtube clip) not. Not really since he "didn't assist him to base" 7.09h Then by that "standard", the softball player's team mated didn't "assist her to base" either by giving "high fives". You can't have it both ways.
The bottom line is, the umpire didn't know the rules, and was suckered into making a bad call by an unscrupulous coach that had a "win at all costs" mentality and exhibited the worst of sportsmanship. -- That's how you be great! That's how you be great! Oh my goodness man, we did it, baby! |
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| That's why I hoped my last post cleared up my standing, I see nothing saying that they cant high five them. So I see no reason for them taking away the HR. Again I don't know if softball rules are different or NCAA. But I assume they don't follow MLB rules.
Regardless I officially change my position. Also what gets me is the coach forced the Ump to change the call. |
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| said by Warzau :... Also what gets me is the coach forced the Ump to change the call. That's the part that gets me too. If it was just the Umpire making a bad call, it's a little different. But that the Coach pushed it is just not right. -- "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats." - H. L. Mencken
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| reply to CtrlAltDel The league follows NCAA Softball rules with some sections agreeable to modifications; however, rules regarding baserunning (Section 12) cannot be modified.
The exact rule is 12.4.15, a rule that clearly stated the batter is out in those circumstances so long as the team has been previously warned for violating 12.4.15.
I assume the rules mean the warning should come in the same game, given a 0-0 score, I don't think the warning could have come in that same game.
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Nevermind I somehow missed Tao's post and was putting the same thing in.
I remember being warned several times over the years about this rule and always thought it was kind of stupid in this scenario but have never seen it used. Figures this would be a case of it being used incorrectly. I wonder if the warning is a change in the last 30 years or so? |
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| reply to sonofjay This seem like a good segue to the greatest home run of my lifetime, to watch, and to link here, the video of that dramatic home run.
»mlb.mlb.com/media/player/mp_tpl_···=mlb&v=2
Yes, he was touched on the way to the plate.
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  sonofjay Mission Accomplished - Bush May 1, 2003 Premium,MVM join:2001-05-14 North Attleboro, MA | Great HR. Love the call from Vin Scully as well. |
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