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cooldude9919

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Cape Girardeau, MO
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Re: Wholesale bandwidth from Comcast in PA

It all depends on construction costs. I have 2 5mbit EDIS metro-e circuits from them, and another one in process. 5mbit can be had for ~$700-$900 on a 5 year term. 10mbit can be had for $850-$1200. Those numbers are if the construction costs are decent, but the cost is rolled in, plus around $500-$1000 up front. I have 3 sites in denver and 4 in atlanta where construction costs are a problem right now. The 3 in dever where going to be almost 50k a piece for construction, so its not worth it there for my lower bandwidth requirement, but if you are getting huge circuits with high MRC's then things may go differently.

Get ahold of a local sales person, ask for a fiber survey for the site, then they will get you a quote. You should be able to tell somewhat yourself how close the fiber splice point is. ALso if you have conduit to the curb from your equipment room that will help things.


superdog
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Lebanon, PA

said by cooldude9919:

It all depends on construction costs. I have 2 5mbit EDIS metro-e circuits from them, and another one in process.
I take it that you are happy with your service? (You are ordering more so I would have to assume?). I have a hard time trying to swallow the fact that a gazillion P2P users are also flowing over the same network and their throttling methods are less than stellar. Granted, I would hope that any bandwidth I buy would not be subject to that crap and I would get priority routing, but today, one never knows, especially with a small commit?.

said by cooldude9919:

Get ahold of a local sales person, ask for a fiber survey for the site, then they will get you a quote. You should be able to tell somewhat yourself how close the fiber splice point is. ALso if you have conduit to the curb from your equipment room that will help things.
Another thing that makes me nervous is the fact that hybrid fiber coax only has a finite amount of bandwidth per mux, so if their box is maxxed out with a ton of residential users and channels for TV on that node, will they be honest and tell me or will they just go ahead and sell it anyway and hope for the best?.

Verizon has also started installing FIOS on the block my NOC is on, so perhaps I should wait and see what they can do for me?, or maybe they won't do anything and it would be a waste of time to wait?.

Thanks gang for all the input, you are all a bunch of life savers!

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cooldude9919

join:2000-05-29
Cape Girardeau, MO
kudos:5

said by superdog:

said by cooldude9919:

It all depends on construction costs. I have 2 5mbit EDIS metro-e circuits from them, and another one in process.
I take it that you are happy with your service? (You are ordering more so I would have to assume?). I have a hard time trying to swallow the fact that a gazillion P2P users are also flowing over the same network and their throttling methods are less than stellar. Granted, I would hope that any bandwidth I buy would not be subject to that crap and I would get priority routing, but today, one never knows, especially with a small commit?.

said by cooldude9919:

Get ahold of a local sales person, ask for a fiber survey for the site, then they will get you a quote. You should be able to tell somewhat yourself how close the fiber splice point is. ALso if you have conduit to the curb from your equipment room that will help things.
Another thing that makes me nervous is the fact that hybrid fiber coax only has a finite amount of bandwidth per mux, so if their box is maxxed out with a ton of residential users and channels for TV on that node, will they be honest and tell me or will they just go ahead and sell it anyway and hope for the best?.

Verizon has also started installing FIOS on the block my NOC is on, so perhaps I should wait and see what they can do for me?, or maybe they won't do anything and it would be a waste of time to wait?.

Thanks gang for all the input, you are all a bunch of life savers!

lets not forget the edis metro e is a true business class product. None of this "business" cable modem suff. Also keep in mind comcast has their own backbone.

Your traffic wont be shaped or throttled or anything for that matter.

i think you may be a little off on how the fiber is connected. From what ive seen (charter here) they run fiber to a splice point (circular black thing hanging down off pole lines if the run is aerial) which is normally close to a node. We have a node/spolice point 1 block from our office where we have charter fiber. At the splice point is a ~6/12/24 count of fiber that our office is spliced into, the node uses a pair, anyone else around that has it uses a pair. That run is direct back to the head end. We dont share anything with the node but proximity.

call comcast up and get a fiber survey done. It may not be cost effective to do it, but you dont know till you try. Use the comming fios as leverage to try to get a better price from comcast if the construction comes back ok.

we where really happy with the 2 sites we turned up. they sent out a status email every week or 2 to keep us in the loop. From signature of contract to turn up was right around 90 days which is pretty good(they say 60 or 90 to 120 days)


superdog
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Thanks for all the great advice!.
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