said by Dezbend :

in light of no apparent new info coming, and sans lack of participation...

vote: sansri

said by TheRul :

the only thing I can tell for real is that drew and muz are scum

said by bjl :

I see you're on now, sans. Have you had a chance to catch up? anything to add?

said by bjl :

yeah, but each night there has only been one kill. with more than one mafia group, you would expect to see more than one night kill.

said by Antonica :

If my 'theory' is right about there being 2 mafias, this makes alot of sense. And you are all falling for it :P. There are a lot of coincidences, and maybe some luck in there, but unless we push for one of those 4... we're not going to know for sure.

said by Antonica :

So of all that, the least harmful to the town would bjl, the best vote is probably Jim, and if we choose any of the 4, it's going to tell us something, that's for sure.

said by BigReds42 :

Just a question for bjl...

»Re: [game] Crazy Game 4 - Day 3

You mentioned something about shortening the time limit for the town?

said by ZandraBee :

He's back on his way to Chicago for work. He called Rocky like 20 minutes ago. Although, I don't know where he was before that.

said by Rook008 :

Sansri, you were on a little over 4 hours ago, why no input?

said by Archivis :

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said by Kristopher :

I hate to point it out again, but:

»Re: [game] Crazy Game 4 - Day 3

said by Rook008 :

Where's Paulg? 21+ hours off site. I'd feel better about all of these Claims if everyone had a chance to read them before we go to Night.

said by Rook008 :

Where's Paulg? 21+ hours off site. I'd feel better about all of these Claims if everyone had a chance to read them before we go to Night.

said by Rook008 :

Zandra Claimed Cop. No Challenges.
Zandra Claimed Innocent result on Jim, Guilty on Archivis.
BJL Claimed he knew the Cop was Insane. If true,
Guilty on Jim, Innocent on Archivis.
Jim Claimed Miller.

said by BigReds42 :

and is this...

»Re: [game] Crazy Game 4 - Day 3

The most up to date vote count?

said by bjl :

wasn't chlen a roleblocker?

said by Rook008 :

Zandra Claimed Cop. No Challenges.
Zandra Claimed Innocent result on Jim, Guilty on Archivis.
BJL Claimed he knew the Cop was Insane. If true,
Guilty on Jim, Innocent on Archivis.
Jim Claimed Miller.

Where else should we go?

said by TheRul :

that was a joke (my network is slow today)

said by Rocky15 :

what do you mean by hardly participating?

said by Archivis :

This paragraph got me thinking. Here's a URL to all of the posts that had the word "Chlen" in them on Day 1.

»[game] Crazy Game 4 - Day 1

Notice the Zandra Day 1 lols vote and the Chlen smiley face response? I don't know, I could be wrong. I'm still 50/50 about Zandra.

said by TheRul :

I have to agree. CatSnak has participated, just has not dropped any crumbs.
And that makes me mad, mad I say!!!! ;)

said by Antonica :

unless one of the quiet people were the cop and the mafia somehow knew it :( ugh.

said by Antonica :

unchallenged as in someone else is not claiming to be cop too?

said by Rook008 :

She Claimed what her role PM said. Cop. It wouldn't make sense for the Mods to tell her she was Insane.

said by drew :

Official Vote Count
Players needed to lynch: 8

Archivis - 1 - BigReds42 (L-7)
BigReds42 - 1 - Rook008 (L-7)
jim - 4 - bjl, ZandraBee, dezbend, Antonica (L-4)
sansri88 - 5 - TheRul, jim, Archivis, kristopher, gbcue (L-3)

Players not voting: Catsnak, PaulG, Rocky15, sansri88

said by Rook008 :

These are the Players who are still "Unknown"

Antonica
TheRul
BigReds42 - Hardly Participating
Rocky15 - Hardly participating
CatSnak - Not participating
Paulg - Not participating
Sansri88 - Not participating

Although some of them have dropped hints as to who they are, they have no Claims on the board.

said by Antonica :

Just voting off quiet ones isn't going to give us answers as to who is lying and who isn't.

said by Rook008 :

If Zandra is not the Cop, then it would be unwise for her to Claim so. And her Claim is still unchallenged.

said by Antonica :

I'm getting ready to role claim myself soon... cause it can't do any harm, and maybe it may get a few of you to take a look at what I'm saying. I'm already apparently not that liked, so it wouldn't hurt.

said by Rook008 :

Too many Role Claims, too little information linking anyone with Chlen, and too many people not participating all make for a difficult Game.

said by drew :

Official Vote Count
Players needed to lynch: 8

Archivis - 1 - BigReds42 (L-7)
BigReds42 - 1 - Rook008 (L-7)
jim - 4 - bjl, ZandraBee, dezbend, Antonica (L-4)
sansri88 - 5 - TheRul, jim, Archivis, kristopher, gbcue (L-3)

Players not voting: Catsnak, PaulG, Rocky15, sansri88

said by BigReds42 :

All caught up since my last post... looks like we have a possible lynch all liars situation.

We shall see what happens .... if Zandra is wrong... she is dead tomorrow.

Vote: Archivis

said by Antonica :

I don't think you are stupid, you probably pulled off one of the biggest manipulation. That's if Zan really is a cop... otherwise she wins the award for me. But you do like to slip up so :)

said by TheRul :

by my count we have 7 that we have no clue what their roles would. And one that may be suspicous, but that can be later.

said by Archivis :

What would you do if if a person role-claimed cop and said you were innocent (and you were mafia)?

It doesn't make sense.

said by bjl :

what about paulg? He's posted only 6 times in the game.

said by Kristopher :

Antonica; the problem with voting Jim is that he could be the death miller, which means that when he's lynched, the mod will say he's mafia. That will be even more confusing. I don't want to take that chance. That's why I'm going for non-participants again.

I don't think Jim's the best choice.

said by Rook008 :

I'm going to re-read the last few pages to try and make sense of it, but here is what I think we have as far as Role Claims:

Kristopher - Claims Bus Driver
Dezbend - Claims Nexus
Gbcue - Claims Town Role (But his deliveries to the Town are the best!)
Archivis - Claims Jack of All Trades
ZandraBee - Claims Cop (But may be insane)
Jim - Claims Miller
bjl - Claims Psychiatrist (Helps Insane Cop?)

Correct?

said by TheRul :

put the sexism in a box. Some of the most anyalitical minds I have found have been women.

said by Archivis :

You mean, like killing?

said by bjl :

how do you know it's not used. just because someone is not participating in day time, does not mean that haven't used their night action, if any.

said by bjl :

How, we know virtually nothing about Sansri's role. we could potentially lynch a useful pro-town role.

said by Kristopher :

Vote: Sans

Best choice right now.

said by Kristopher :

Vote: Sans

Best choice right now.

said by sansri88 :

BTW I haven't been on that much as of late...went for a round of golf this morning...and a lot of times when you see me on I'm actually mobile on my phone.

said by Rook008 :

You Claimed Psychiatrist, just trying to figure out what it is you're supposed to do.

said by Rook008 :

You Claimed Psychiatrist, just trying to figure out what it is you're supposed to do.

said by bjl :

no... where are you going with this?

said by ZandraBee :

Thanks for believing me. Throw out ideas for who to investigate. I was going to do Rook, or Rocky, or Sans.

said by Rook008 :

And you're supposed to make the Insane Cop sane? Is that what your Role PM says?

said by Archivis :

Zandra, I'll say it outright. I'm shuffling you with someone else tonight.

said by bjl :

maybe the mod can prod him. if he's not interested in playing, maybe get a replacement.

also, where's Paul?

said by bjl :

hopefully the doc is paying attention.

said by Archivis :

We need to stop lynching townies. I'm highly suspicious of Zandra, but at the same time, she could very well be a highly critical role as well. There's got to be some other way to know for sure other than killing off another one of our own.

said by Rook008 :

Jim, your Role PM says you are the Miller?

said by Gbcue :

WTF is with Sans?

It's like he forgets about the game.

said by bjl :

the easiest and safest way to test, is to lynch one of the people Z says she has investigated. That's you, Archivis, and Jim. Archivis, you seem to be claiming a more useful, pro-town role than Jim. And I know there is an insane cop in the game, that's why I've voted for Jim.

said by Archivis :

FYI, Sans was on less than two hours ago. No posts.

said by ZandraBee :

Yeah, Steaks and sides. I'm using my famous marinade, and probably making homemade cheddar, garlic and sour cream mashed redskins.

said by drew :

Official Vote Count
Players needed to lynch: 8

Archivis - 2 - kristopher, Rook008 (L-6)
BigReds42 - 1 - Archivis (L-7)
jim - 2 - bjl, gbcue (L-6)
sansri88 - 1 - TheRul (L-7)
ZandraBee - 1 - Antonica (L-7)

Players not voting: BigReds42, Catsnak, dezbend, jim, PaulG, Rocky15, sansri88, ZandraBee

said by Gbcue :

How nice.

said by ZandraBee :

I have to go cook for Rocky's Mom and Step-dad.

said by ZandraBee :

I'm not trying to pry information about being insane, I was the first to mention it after Jim said he was Miller.

said by ZandraBee :

You mentioned Death Miller, I've only seen Miller, what's the death kind?

said by ZandraBee :

If he's miller, my innocent on him also shows I'm insane because the miller should be guilty right?

said by bjl :

I already have. she knows she's insane now and to not trust her results. Innocent = Guilty and Guilty = Innocent. (unless the person in the GF).

I think a good test of this is to lynch Jim. If he's mafia, Z is legit. If he is the miller, the real insane cop know's they are insane, and we go after Z.

said by bjl :

I believe Z is the cop. an insane one at that. as the psychiatrist, I knew there was an insane cop out there, but I couldn't come out and say it.

said by ZandraBee :

Is this the same role I used in my game? It doesn't seem like it.

said by bjl :

I believe Z is the cop. an insane one at that. as the psychiatrist, I knew there was an insane cop out there, but I couldn't come out and say it.

said by Archivis :

You're so full of shit Zandra. I figured it out. I used my single investigation on you on the first night and found out you're legit.

Jim just roleclaimed miller and if I just spelled out who I am in the first post.

Ever since they were saying that the Godfather shows up clean on investigations, there's only two possibilities in my head.

You're either insane or you're the Godfather.

said by Archivis :

You're so full of shit Zandra. I figured it out. I used my single investigation on you on the first night and found out you're legit.

Jim just roleclaimed miller and if I just spelled out who I am in the first post.

Ever since they were saying that the Godfather shows up clean on investigations, there's only two possibilities in my head.

You're either insane or you're the Godfather.

said by Antonica :

Either she is insane (yeah bullshit) or she is guilty. Either way if she doesn't go, please vote me so I can prove myself right :P

said by Gbcue :

So what did you say turned up for Archivis?

said by ZandraBee :

How am I useless? That means If I get anymore innocent results those would be the guilty people.

said by Antonica :

I do not believe Z is town, I already said what I thought she was.

And holy hell i can't keep up. Lunch is in 50 minutes.

said by Jim :

Why?

said by Jim :

If you are insane, do you realize you're pretty useless to us?
Are you willing to take one for the town in that case?

said by bjl :

you said it, I didn't. :)

said by ZandraBee :

It said you were innocent.

Does that mean I'm insane then?

said by Jim :

Damn you!

said by Rook008 :

Why do you seem surprised?

said by Rook008 :

Why do you seem surprised?

said by Antonica :

From what I've taken in from day 1, I do believe you are there to help them find the guilty people, who are also a threat to you.

said by Jim :

And the result was that I'm town?

said by Antonica :

the town?

said by Jim :

»Re: [game] Crazy Game 4 - Day 3

ZB,
I'd like absolute clarification. Are you saying you investigated me?

said by Antonica :

From what I've taken in from day 1, I do believe you are there to help them find the guilty people, who are also a threat to you. Im pretty sure too when you are done "helping" them, you can be free to continue on your rampage and finish off the rest of us (town).

said by Rook008 :

So why not explain what you think to her? She's already pointed the stick at Archivis. Makes sense to explain before we Lynch him.

said by Antonica :

Unvote: BR
Vote: ZandraBee

said by Antonica :

Yeah I bet you think you can... don't you.. maybe for alittle, but I'm sure you'll be happy off'ing off the rest of us when you think you got rid of any more threats.

There are others that also suspect Kris too, seems like you and Kris are more on your own than others. I hope people re-read the past few days and today and see what you are doing.

Also VERY serious about my proposition I just posted a few posts up.

said by Rook008 :

Here's my take on the situation.

Zandra Claims that Archivis is Mafia. If she's right, good. If she's wrong, and he's not Mafia or a Miller, we Lynch Zandra tomorrow.

said by Archivis :

Oh my god. I'm not trying to out roles. I don't know your role, I just know that you're innocent.

said by Archivis :

You guys need to lay off Zandra. She is legit.

said by ZandraBee :

Since I'm pretty much dead tonight now, my only hope is that someone can switch me or protect me or block me.

said by ZandraBee :

it's Day 3

said by Antonica :

asking for quite alot eh?

said by bjl :

that's only two people... there should be one more?

said by ZandraBee :

What else would I be saying?

said by Antonica :

I would like to know how Zan is so sure.

said by Archivis :

Zandra isn't lying. She is misunderstanding.

said by bjl :

if the cop is not sane, they will get incorrect results.

said by Gbcue :

From a cop? What?

said by bjl :

not always.

said by Kristopher :

I've noticed that if you force everyone to give up all their secrets, you can possibly damage the town. If Zandra is wrong, we know to lynch her tomorrow. If she's right, I'd be concerned about you for lightly defending Archivis here, as well as trying to out the town's power roles.

said by Kristopher :

Godfather shows as an innocent on investigations.

said by Kristopher :

I look at it this way. If we lynch him, and find he's town, at least we know who to go after next. If he's mafia, Zandra goes on the safe list.

said by Dezbend :

care to elaborate?

asking the cop to investigate to clear oneself often smacks of godfartherliness... is this what you are thinking?

said by Dezbend :

care to elaborate?

asking the cop to investigate to clear oneself often smacks of godfartherliness... is this what you are thinking?

said by ZandraBee :

You're a liar.

said by Archivis :

What's different about me? I'm posting whenever I can. It's still more than most people, but not as much as I posted before. I've been in Harrisburg this week doing migrations, so I'm only half as lazy this week.

I don't know BR's playstyle, but he still seems all over the place. He's shot down every single theory or idea this group has put together and hasn't put forward one thought of his own.

I'm alright putting pressure on sans. It's not like he hasn't been online. Aside from that, I know a confirmed legitimate person, a few others that I'm pretty certain are legit and many others who are unknowns. I think the unknowns need to be "knowns".

I'll wait to see what the group does. Sans for inactivity. BR for suspicious behavior. I think we're going to be killing ourselves if we nitpick. Look back at Day 1. Pretty much all our primary suspects were fairly certain to be town. Dez, Gbcue, Boudro (RIP), all primary suspects. All town. The only mafia lead we had was on a quiet guy and they killed themselves (Probably trying to kill Dez).

Kris, I'd just be careful about your aggression. We both started at the same time and both of us are aggressive attack dogs. Just like that game when Zandra, myself and I believe it was you... all bickering amongst ourselves. All the mafia has to do is just point you in the right direction and you do all the work for them. They did it to me in that very game. They could do it to you too.

I think we need to come together now and start using process of elimination. The mafia is an informed minority and we're an uninformed majority. It's time we turn ourselves into an informed majority.

said by Kristopher :

Vote: Rook

Concern over the control of this day's thread. I've read through a couple of times, and besides my glaring target painting, you stand out by seemingly directing focus. I'm also concerned about Archivis. Something's different about him this game.

Sorry to all for my call outs. I'm terrible at this game. Maybe I'll get better in subsequent games.......

said by Dezbend :

again, if we are at an impasse, I believe my role has been used up and killing me is more beneficial than killing a cop.
...

said by Dezbend :

...
the only way I can die is lynch.

said by Dezbend :

I just did a ctrl-f through the whole day looking for it, and am still not seeing it... you are joking?

I can't be a target so unless I was roleblocked it could not have happened... link please.

said by drew :

Official Vote Count
Players needed to lynch: 8

Archivis - 1 - ZandraBee (L-7)
BigReds42 - 2 - gbcue, Archivis (L-6)
jim - 2 - Antonica, TheRul (L-6)
sansri88 - 2 - dezbend, bjl (L-6)

Players not voting: BigReds42, Catsnak, jim, kristopher, PaulG, Rocky15, Rook008, sansri88

said by Rook008 :

I guess you didn't notice the scene where you were Day-Killed?

said by Rook008 :

I guess you didn't notice the scene where you were Day-Killed?

said by BigReds42 :

Me too right? lol

said by TheRul :

Thank you for the Lineage vote set up.
Dez, arc, kriz and catsnak are all on there more than once.

said by Archivis :

I've responded to your inquiries earlier in this thread. I've answered everyone's questions sufficiently. If you feel the need to make me outright spell my role out for you, then maybe suspicion needs to be put on you. This is the very reason I'm voting for BigReds. How many more people need to paint targets on their head before we lose the game?

I can't make it anymore obvious.

said by Rook008 :

Posting this for future reference.

boudro, Catsnak, BigReds42, bjl, dezbend, gbcue, Archivis, kristopher, TheRul, Antonica

BigReds42, jim, ZandraBee, Catsnak, Archivis, kristopher, gbcue, Rocky15, dezbend

said by Antonica :

BR... if you are such a veteran player, then why are you not doing anything that everyone seems to be? You don't want to give ideas, you don't want to breadcrumb, you don't seem to want to do anything but vote and go from there. Just seems odd.

said by Antonica :

Exactly hehe.

Sorry for all the posts in a row, that's what happens when I have time to catch up.

said by Antonica :

rofl deflecting again.

said by Kristopher :

OK - Here's some info. I think I'm dead in the next night phase anyway.....

The mafia went after Gbcue last night. I know this for a fact. The reason they did this is that he role claimed earlier, and they know that if they kill him, town goes under a time limit. Gbcue must be protected at all cost.

If you don't believe me, lynch me. All will be revealed then. But remember - Someone must protect Gbcue!!!

I'm going back to my training. I'll try to check in later to see if I'm hanging from a rope. :)

said by Archivis :

So, Sans has made like 5 posts in the past 2 days and was on 20 minutes ago, but not a single Day 3 post. What's up, Sans?

said by Antonica :

I think there are some things from Day 1 and 2 yet that need to be looked at.

I also wanted to reply to notion about breadcrumbing. Maybe I just suck at it, maybe I just suck reading them, but the whole "I tried to breadcrumb" bit.. do you believe everyone that says that? Just like if I just say "i'm town". ok that's good enough? Seems kinda of lame to me :P But just cause someone claims to be something, does that mean they are really it? Sure that would work if mafia just never claimed to be something they aren't :P I just don't buy it, I need something more than a "well I breadcrumbed".

On a side note, probably lost 5 lbs today moving boxes :)

said by Archivis :

Would you accept one if you got one? Knowing nothing about them, it could just be a bit of humor, or it could like playing russian roulette.

said by bjl :

hmmm, I've analyzed the day 3 thread and nothing pops out as "offering excuses, not a defense."

said by Gbcue :

You're such a John Kerry.

said by TheRul :

Do I look like a lawyer. No. I am not building a case against you on nothing. I am building a case on you for upsetting the natural balance of the universe.

said by TheRul :

Unvote sans
vote Arc
Plus he is on and active, a little pressure will help

said by ZandraBee :

He's trying to deflect everything off of him. Offering excuses, not a defense. It doesn't sit well with me. I think he's the most suspicious one right now.

said by TheRul :

unvote Jim but I still think he needs a good looking into
Vote Z start some pressure elsewhere.

said by Gbcue :

I asked the mod (drew) by which way it was shipped, FedEx, UPS, or USPS. He didn't answer :(.

If it was FedEx, I would have accepted, UPS, the same. By the time the package got through UPS' shipping system, it would have been so battered, it would have been broken so at least I could have filed an insurance claim on that.

USPS, probably not. Too much history of bombs and anthrax.

said by TheRul :

Hey Catsnak, what do you think... Can you guess who gave you the package, and would that person ever do anything serious?

said by Antonica :

Why wouldn't you accept a gift... are they all good to help the town or can they be something bad?

AFK till tomorrow probably

said by Rook008 :

Why send it to Jim?

said by TheRul :

I remember reading that game. it was the devil giving out the gifts. I do not think it is the devil giving the gifts here.

said by Rook008 :

Yes, it would be funny.

said by Archivis :

Get another gift?

said by Jim :

Since you seem to know, can you tell us what it was?

said by Antonica :

Why wouldn't you accept a gift... are they all good to help the town or can they be something bad?

AFK till tomorrow probably

said by Gbcue :

So I take it you didn't accept it and it is now up to the mods or it went back to the creator.

said by Archivis :

Could you technically say that Gbcue gave you the gift that keeps on giving?

said by Jim :

Have you seen his picture?

said by Jim :

And I learned long ago not to accept gifts from strangers.

said by Gbcue :

Oh ok, because I received a gift, opened it and in it contained another gift which I gave to Jim.

said by Archivis :

No, but it is humorous.

said by Archivis :

Get another gift?

said by Rook008 :

lol.
I'm pretty much sitting here thinking "now everybody knows where some of the Town's power lies."

I was so wrong I started laughing. The question really threw me.

said by Rook008 :

lol.
I'm pretty much sitting here thinking "now everybody knows where some of the Town's power lies."

I was so wrong I started laughing. The question really threw me.

said by Rook008 :

lol.
I'm pretty much sitting here thinking "now everybody knows where some of the Town's power lies."

I was so wrong I started laughing. The question really threw me.

said by Rook008 :

wow.

said by TheRul :

other than that, I am wondering. How kris thinks he knows what GBCue is.

said by BigReds42 :

For what reason?

Because I asked GB if he did a specific claim or not? Sorry I don't have the world's greatest memory.

said by Archivis :

I have several people on my "Pretty certain they're legit" list, but BR is popping up on my uneasy list.

said by Rook008 :

GBCue Claimed Townie after he dropped a relatively specific Breadcrumb. That Breadcrumb does not = a Claim, but it points to a Role. I think. Maybe.

said by Rook008 :

I agree pretty much with your ideas about inactives.

One thing though. Would you say you've been aggressive in this Game?

said by Gbcue :

If Kris *knows* the mafia tried to get me last night, then I was the subject to influence by the bus driver.

Sounds like Kris is the bus driver and he switched me and Boudro.

said by bjl :

The claim was on Day 2. I know this because I just reread looking for it. lol. I have an idea of what he might be, and I'm going to leave it at that.

said by Archivis :

I think that you should either believe or disbelieve his claim, but not press forward with him giving out details. You know that there are people with valuable pro-town roles, so you don't want to force a doc to come clean, or someone like a JOAT. You'll just help the mafia, which just means that if YOU really want a role-claim then YOU are just looking for a sureshot night kill.

My vote stays on you.

said by BigReds42 :

Was that it?

said by Antonica :

I tried saying it before as well, I'm pretty sure Archivis is up to something, just not sure what yet. The way he avoided me when I pointed him out for something, and his constant notion to go after only quiet people, something is up. Also his comment that he knew for sure 1 of the 3 we were on were bad.

said by Gbcue :

FYI, I claimed town affiliation.

said by BigReds42 :

Someone wanna explain this to me in English?

I understand that Kris knows that "mafia" went after GBcue. I have seen (actually been) the follower role... but only know if someone went to someone's house (night dwelling)... I was never told an actual affiliation.

Does anyone know what role he is describing... not doubting because it is just not a role that sounds like I have seen before.

Sorry for ignorance (and laziness)... what did GBcue claim?

said by BigReds42 :

Someone wanna explain this to me in English?

I understand that Kris knows that "mafia" went after GBcue. I have seen (actually been) the follower role... but only know if someone went to someone's house (night dwelling)... I was never told an actual affiliation.

Does anyone know what role he is describing... not doubting because it is just not a role that sounds like I have seen before.

Sorry for ignorance (and laziness)... what did GBcue claim?

said by Kristopher :

OK - Here's some info. I think I'm dead in the next night phase anyway.....

The mafia went after Gbcue last night. I know this for a fact. The reason they did this is that he role claimed earlier, and they know that if they kill him, town goes under a time limit. Gbcue must be protected at all cost.

If you don't believe me, lynch me. All will be revealed then. But remember - Someone must protect Gbcue!!!

I'm going back to my training. I'll try to check in later to see if I'm hanging from a rope. :)

said by Antonica :

Also laugh at BR FoS on me for not being on, did you miss the 5+ posts from me stating that I wouldn't be on? He does seem to chim in just to say he has nothing to say... kinda odd.

Those are my thoughts.

said by Rook008 :

I agree with BigReds, they wanted to Kill a certain player, but got Boudro instead. One is better than none for them, right?
I would assume the switcheroo was because of a Bus Driver, because a Nexus would yield results too unpredictable for the Mafia to take the chance.

Any other thoughts, CatSnak?

said by CatSnak :

One thing that has me wondering is the One better then none statement in the flavor text. It leads me to believe the mafia were attempting a night kill that would net multiple victims rather then a single. The wondering part is what clues have they picked up on that would lead them to believe they could get multiples with one action?

said by ZandraBee :

I believe there's a role that can only vote randomly.

said by Rook008 :

I'm waiting to see if anyone has any new information, and to see if CatSnak is still around.

said by Archivis :

You're all about the random this game, aren't you?

said by Jim :

Is that all we're going to get, or is there more you're going to tell us?
We're seem to be starving for information.

said by Dezbend :

vote: sansri88

said by drew :

Official Vote Count
Players needed to lynch: 8

Archivis - 1 - ZandraBee (L-7)
BigReds42 - 2 - gbcue, Archivis (L-6)
jim - 1 - TheRul (L-7)

Players not voting: Antonica, BigReds42, bjl, Catsnak, dezbend, jim, kristopher, PaulG, Rocky15, Rook008, sansri88

said by Kristopher :

I would like to hear more from bjl regarding why he still sees you as the top candidate for suspicion.

said by Kristopher :

Vote: Bjl

I want to press Bjl a little bit on why he still is on Gbcue and the cult slip. Either he didn't read into Gbcue's defense posts, or he's scum.