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Not digital - but the end of Kodachrome.

»news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090622/ap_···s_demise
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Re: Not digital - but the end of Kodachrome.

»www.usatoday.com/money/media/200···me_N.htm

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I thought they stopped producing this stuff years ago. There is only one lab in the world that still process the stuff. Even kodak ships the film they get for processing in Europe to the lab in the USA.

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I love the look of Kodachrome, but the film itself has been a PITA to work with in modern years. In fact, I'm surprised this hasn't come sooner. The film is expensive, the processing is expensive, and you have to wait a few days for the USPS to ship it to/from Kansas. Kodachrome also had a nasty side effect of not scanning too well on some film scanners.

Its just much easier to shoot with Ektachrome (or really any other slide film) and get processing done and scan it in the same day. Its not Kodachrome, but the workflow is far easier and faster.

I still have one remaining roll of Kodachrome 64 that I plan to shoot with soon. I guess that would be my final farewell to a great film.

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Supposedly it was down to 1% or less of their film sales. In fact it was only produced on time a year. and this last batch will be the last when it is gone.

While long a favorite of pro's, it was just too slow for the mass consumer market, Who prefered high shutter speeds (especially the shutter jabbers) and low light ability, and lost out to Ekrachrome and the like. (which could also be self processed).
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Kodachrome was always my favorite, especially the ASA 25. Such rich colors!

This is so sad. But, admittedly, I haven't shot any in quite a few years, either.

Tim

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Re: Not digital - but the end of Kodachrome.

mine too. i've a many a roll.. and use to pack it myself from 500 shot rolls

said by timcuth See Profile :

Kodachrome was always my favorite, especially the ASA 25. Such rich colors!

This is so sad. But, admittedly, I haven't shot any in quite a few years, either.

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Re: Not digital - but the end of Kodachrome.

said by robar See Profile :

mine too. i've a many a roll.. and use to pack it myself from 500 shot rolls
Where they 500 shot or 100 foot rolls?

I used bulk Tri-X and I thought it came in 100 foot rolls, but that was many moons ago so I could be incorrect.

I dabbled in Kodachrome but it was pricey once developing was included and required a lab to process so I pretty much stuck with B&W which I could process and print.

Another thing I liked about B&W was there was also something almost sensual about seeing a print develop in the tray and deciding just when “that’s it” and then quickly sliding it into the stop bath to lock the shot.

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Re: Not digital - but the end of Kodachrome.

said by Splitpair See Profile :

Where they 500 shot or 100 foot rolls?
Surprised they actually (and not for a long time now) had bulk Kodachrome rolls.... and yes I would guess stsandard 100 ft) I don;t thinkthough Kodachrome ever had a self processing option.... and again why Ektachrome thought too cool (toned) for some took over.... it could be self processed, and cheap quick drug/cam store processed.. EVen decades ago Kodachrome had to go to a cam store and sent off to Kodak or who knows where.

While not as complex as tri neg Technicolor....Kodachrome far from simple, and chemically near as complex, ... definately NOT DIY.

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long ago

said by Splitpair See Profile :

said by robar See Profile :

mine too. i've a many a roll.. and use to pack it myself from 500 shot rolls
Where they 500 shot or 100 foot rolls?

I used bulk Tri-X and I thought it came in 100 foot rolls, but that was many moons ago so I could be incorrect.

I dabbled in Kodachrome but it was pricey once developing was included and required a lab to process so I pretty much stuck with B&W which I could process and print.

Another thing I liked about B&W was there was also something almost sensual about seeing a print develop in the tray and deciding just when “that’s it” and then quickly sliding it into the stop bath to lock the shot.

Wayne
said by Splitpair See Profile :

said by robar See Profile :

mine too. i've a many a roll.. and use to pack it myself from 500 shot rolls
Where they 500 shot or 100 foot rolls?

I used bulk Tri-X and I thought it came in 100 foot rolls, but that was many moons ago so I could be incorrect.

I dabbled in Kodachrome but it was pricey once developing was included and required a lab to process so I pretty much stuck with B&W which I could process and print.

Another thing I liked about B&W was there was also something almost sensual about seeing a print develop in the tray and deciding just when “that’s it” and then quickly sliding it into the stop bath to lock the shot.

Wayne
said by Splitpair See Profile :

said by robar See Profile :

mine too. i've a many a roll.. and use to pack it myself from 500 shot rolls
Where they 500 shot or 100 foot rolls?

I used bulk Tri-X and I thought it came in 100 foot rolls, but that was many moons ago so I could be incorrect.

I dabbled in Kodachrome but it was pricey once developing was included and required a lab to process so I pretty much stuck with B&W which I could process and print.

Another thing I liked about B&W was there was also something almost sensual about seeing a print develop in the tray and deciding just when “that’s it” and then quickly sliding it into the stop bath to lock the shot.

Wayne
said by Splitpair See Profile :

said by robar See Profile :

mine too. i've a many a roll.. and use to pack it myself from 500 shot rolls
Where they 500 shot or 100 foot rolls?

I used bulk Tri-X and I thought it came in 100 foot rolls, but that was many moons ago so I could be incorrect.

I dabbled in Kodachrome but it was pricey once developing was included and required a lab to process so I pretty much stuck with B&W which I could process and print.

Another thing I liked about B&W was there was also something almost sensual about seeing a print develop in the tray and deciding just when “that’s it” and then quickly sliding it into the stop bath to lock the shot.

Wayne
said by Splitpair See Profile :

said by robar See Profile :

mine too. i've a many a roll.. and use to pack it myself from 500 shot rolls
Where they 500 shot or 100 foot rolls?

I used bulk Tri-X and I thought it came in 100 foot rolls, but that was many moons ago so I could be incorrect.

I dabbled in Kodachrome but it was pricey once developing was included and required a lab to process so I pretty much stuck with B&W which I could process and print.

Another thing I liked about B&W was there was also something almost sensual about seeing a print develop in the tray and deciding just when “that’s it” and then quickly sliding it into the stop bath to lock the shot.

Wayne
said by Splitpair See Profile :

said by robar See Profile :

mine too. i've a many a roll.. and use to pack it myself from 500 shot rolls
Where they 500 shot or 100 foot rolls?

I used bulk Tri-X and I thought it came in 100 foot rolls, but that was many moons ago so I could be incorrect.

I dabbled in Kodachrome but it was pricey once developing was included and required a lab to process so I pretty much stuck with B&W which I could process and print.

Another thing I liked about B&W was there was also something almost sensual about seeing a print develop in the tray and deciding just when “that’s it” and then quickly sliding it into the stop bath to lock the shot.

Wayne
said by Splitpair See Profile :

said by robar See Profile :

mine too. i've a many a roll.. and use to pack it myself from 500 shot rolls
Where they 500 shot or 100 foot rolls?

I used bulk Tri-X and I thought it came in 100 foot rolls, but that was many moons ago so I could be incorrect.

I dabbled in Kodachrome but it was pricey once developing was included and required a lab to process so I pretty much stuck with B&W which I could process and print.

Another thing I liked about B&W was there was also something almost sensual about seeing a print develop in the tray and deciding just when “that’s it” and then quickly sliding it into the stop bath to lock the shot.

Wayne
said by Splitpair See Profile :

said by robar See Profile :

mine too. i've a many a roll.. and use to pack it myself from 500 shot rolls
Where they 500 shot or 100 foot rolls?

I used bulk Tri-X and I thought it came in 100 foot rolls, but that was many moons ago so I could be incorrect.

I dabbled in Kodachrome but it was pricey once developing was included and required a lab to process so I pretty much stuck with B&W which I could process and print.

Another thing I liked about B&W was there was also something almost sensual about seeing a print develop in the tray and deciding just when “that’s it” and then quickly sliding it into the stop bath to lock the shot.

Wayne
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Re: Not digital - but the end of Kodachrome.

Is there an echo in here?

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long ago

said by Splitpair See Profile :

said by robar See Profile :

mine too. i've a many a roll.. and use to pack it myself from 500 shot rolls
Where they 500 shot or 100 foot rolls?

I used bulk Tri-X and I thought it came in 100 foot rolls, but that was many moons ago so I could be incorrect.

I dabbled in Kodachrome but it was pricey once developing was included and required a lab to process so I pretty much stuck with B&W which I could process and print.

Another thing I liked about B&W was there was also something almost sensual about seeing a print develop in the tray and deciding just when “that’s it” and then quickly sliding it into the stop bath to lock the shot.

Wayne
said by Splitpair See Profile :

said by robar See Profile :

mine too. i've a many a roll.. and use to pack it myself from 500 shot rolls
Where they 500 shot or 100 foot rolls?

I used bulk Tri-X and I thought it came in 100 foot rolls, but that was many moons ago so I could be incorrect.

I dabbled in Kodachrome but it was pricey once developing was included and required a lab to process so I pretty much stuck with B&W which I could process and print.

Another thing I liked about B&W was there was also something almost sensual about seeing a print develop in the tray and deciding just when “that’s it” and then quickly sliding it into the stop bath to lock the shot.

Wayne
said by Splitpair See Profile :

said by robar See Profile :

mine too. i've a many a roll.. and use to pack it myself from 500 shot rolls
Where they 500 shot or 100 foot rolls?

I used bulk Tri-X and I thought it came in 100 foot rolls, but that was many moons ago so I could be incorrect.

I dabbled in Kodachrome but it was pricey once developing was included and required a lab to process so I pretty much stuck with B&W which I could process and print.

Another thing I liked about B&W was there was also something almost sensual about seeing a print develop in the tray and deciding just when “that’s it” and then quickly sliding it into the stop bath to lock the shot.

Wayne
.....Skipping the last 4 dups in case Orig edited by now.

Hey and Robar I get nailed for typos and bad edits but how the heck did you get a 7x echo?

MAYBE we just all make mistakes now and then?

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Same with me. I went from Ektachrome to Kodachrome and carried their process mailers (PK20). I could send it in while on a vacation. Back then, Dallas was the closest center. But, like many, I quit shooting slide film. Loved the product, but understand that from a business sense, there isn't a very large market anymore.

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said by timcuth See Profile :
SO like the E
Kodachrome was always my favorite, especially the ASA 25. Such rich colors! .
Again if you apreciated it and not a just shutter jabber where high ISO was savaoir
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Re: Not digital - but the end of Kodachrome.

said by Hayward See Profile :

said by timcuth See Profile :

Kodachrome was always my favorite, especially the ASA 25. Such rich colors! Again if you appreciated it and not a just shutter jabber where high ISO like the EKTA was savior/.
As for many other was too where that cold appreciate a slow squeezed shutter vs JABBERS
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said by timcuth See Profile :

Kodachrome was always my favorite, especially the ASA 25. Such rich colors!
Then again really artificially WARM (which made it wonderful for portraits and fall foliage) .... many would say Ektachrome is too cool. Really depends on what you are shooting.

Fact of the real matter it was just too slow, but probably the finest grain color film ever if you could deal with the slow speed application.
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When I think back
On all the crap I learned in high school
It's a wonder
I can think at all
And though my lack of edu---cation
Hasn't hurt me none
I can read the writing on the wall

Kodachrome
They give us those nice bright colors
They give us the greens of summers
Makes you think all the world's a sunny day, Oh yeah
I got a Nikon camera
I love to take a photograph
So mama don't take my Kodachrome away

If you took all the girls I knew
When I was single
And brought them all together for one night
I know they'd never match
my sweet imagination
everything looks WORSE in black and white

Kodachrome
They give us those nice bright colors
They give us the greens of summers
Makes you think all the world's a sunny day, Oh yeah
I got a Nikon camera
I love to take a photograph
So mama don't take my Kodachrome away

Mama don't take my Kodachrome away
Mama don't take my Kodachrome away
Mama don't take my Kodachrome away

Mama don't take my Kodachrome
Mama don't take my Kodachrome
Mama don't take my Kodachrome away

Mama don't take my Kodachrome
Leave your boy so far from home
Mama don't take my Kodachrome away
Mama don't take my Kodachrome

Mama don't take my Kodachrome away

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So is Paul Simpn gping to finaly do a seqeal of they FINALLY took my Kodachrome away.
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i have no clue as to that last post happened.
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»www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujhdf9_IO4w


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From Kodak.

»homepage.1000words.kodak.com/def···=2388083

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Re: Not digital - but the end of Kodachrome.

No need for Photoshop here.

»www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQuerier.···tid=8278

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Re: Not digital - but the end of Kodachrome.

And if you happen to still have some Kodachrome on hand the only lab in the U.S. that can process Kodachrome Dwayne's Photo will be processing it through 2010.

»www.dwaynesphoto.com/
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That slideshow almost made me cry. I don't care what technology you have hooked to your glass, that stuff is in a class of its own (and I remember most of those shots).

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Re: Not digital - but the end of Kodachrome.

Agreed. And what struck me, is they are "simple" shots. Just taken by artists with a great eye and ability to visualize a great photograph.

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Re: Not digital - but the end of Kodachrome.

As well as the technical ability to expose Kodachrome dead center in its dynamic range to best capture the wonderful light that made most of these images what they are!

National Geographic is my friend...

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Off the slide just reduced in size
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Splitpair getting Lei'ed
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Adjusting my cousins’ collar
I have seen it mentioned that one of the attractions professionals had of Kodachrome was its archival abilities.

And yes they where on to something.

The top shot is as scanned, the rest have been cleaned up a bit and all where shot on Kodachrome as marked on the holder.

These slides came from my parents collection and where stored by myself under less than ideal conditions for a number of years before being scanned to digital about five years ago, now the child in the photos is yours truly and I'm in my mid fifties so that should give you an idea of the age of those slides.

While the colors have shifted and faded a little when compared to what print of the same age stored under the same conditions would look like they are in great shape. Kodachrome was in its day and still is an amazing technology.

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Re: Not digital - but the end of Kodachrome.

This is off a dupe made from a 4x5 Kodachrome:


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Re: Not digital - but the end of Kodachrome.

Are there any filters out there that even come close to replicating that look?

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Re: Not digital - but the end of Kodachrome.

AlienSkin makes a plugin called Exposure that has some Kodachrome settings. 30 day demo if you want to try it out...
»www.alienskin.com/exposure/index.aspx

DxO Optics also has a plugin called FilmPack that tries to replicate Kodachrome
»www.dxo.com/intl/photo/filmpack

Nik's Color Efex Pro also does this
»www.niksoftware.com/colorefexpro···ntry.php

They all have demos, if you want to try them.
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Are there any filters out there that even come close to replicating that look?
No

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Not exactly, but in that Kodachrome as in reality overly minorly warm, a minor warm filter could give somewhat of the effect., if it doesn't over power/tint the cool colors.

And why so many early on had an aversion to Ektachrome being too cool, now seen as relatively actually neutral.Especially compared to digital with electronic actual WB... no doubt about it Kodachrome was unnaturally warm. (even true whites were warm)

Though what made it so great for portraits, fall foliage and things like that. Which we can now all do EASLILY in post if that is really the effect we want, vs neutral color and true white.
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