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Re: Women's Concealed Carry You forgot to list shooting your self by accident on you list of ridiculous reasons to own a revolver over a simi-auto. |
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| said by battleop:You forgot to list shooting your self by accident on you list of ridiculous reasons to own a revolver over a simi-auto. If it's tucked in your pants and you're wrestling around in a fight yea maybe, but a holstered or stored revolver, the only way you're gonna shoot yourself is if you squeeze the trigger all the way back to the hammer. These aren't wild west hair triggers, there's a lot of resistance, not to mention the half-cock safety feature.
Whereas, I actually knew a dude that while dancing in a disco, blew the tip of his pecker off with a Llama 9mm auto tucked in his pants.
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| said by SmackWeasel:Whereas, I actually knew a dude that while dancing in a disco, blew the tip of his pecker off with a Llama 9mm auto tucked in his pants. That'll ruin your chances for a date...
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I guess you missed what I was getting at. A revolver is not any better or worse than a loaded simi-auto pistol. Both can be carried ready to fire at a moments notice. The bonus on a simil-auto pistol is it's safety (except Glocks). If you can't think clear enough in a bad situation to remember the safety them maybe you are not thinking clear enough to use the pistol. If you practice, practice, practice, you will develop habits so that you don't have to "think" about the safety if such a time comes that you will need the firearm. |
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heh..true dat. Although he did end up with one gnarly French tickler.
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said by battleop:I guess you missed what I was getting at. A revolver is not any better or worse than a loaded simi-auto pistol. Both can be carried ready to fire at a moments notice. The bonus on a simil-auto pistol is it's safety (except Glocks). If you can't think clear enough in a bad situation to remember the safety them maybe you are not thinking clear enough to use the pistol. If you practice, practice, practice, you will develop habits so that you don't have to "think" about the safety if such a time comes that you will need the firearm. Pardon me battleop, Yea I guess I did miss your point, thought you were referring to revolvers only in accidental shootings. I may be wrong to assume most people kill themselves accidentally via autos as they are a more complicated device.
I defiantly agree with:
[If you can't think clear enough in a bad situation to remember the safety them maybe you are not thinking clear enough to use the pistol.]
This is my main issue as well.
Fortunately most gun owners never actually fire their weapon in defense, so they will never know if they would panic or fumble. the "piece" remains at best a comfort blanket or at least a cocktail conversation accessory.
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| I tried a quick Goolge and didn't find anything that supported the safety of a revolver over a semi-auto or vice versa.
I would think that a semi-auto would be less dangerous because of it's complication compared to a revolver. There would be more steps involved in firing a semi-auto than a revolver. |
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»world.guns.ru/handguns/hg00-e.htm
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...the revolvers were more reliable, primarily, because of the simplicity of the design....No jams, no stoppages. Even in the case of the misfire you just got to pull the trigger again - and next round will go. In semi-auto, you need sufficient power to cycle the slide, thus rendering underpowered loads almost inoperable in semi-autos. Also, in case of the misfire, or jam, you should manually cycle the slide to fire the next round. In defensive scenario, this may cost you another second, and may be - your life. So, in general, sixguns are far less sensitive to ammo quality, and, due to simplicity and inherent design features, could withstand far more abuse.
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»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handgun
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Advantages of revolvers
- Reliability: Blockages and malfunctions are virtually impossible in a revolver. A dud round is cleared by a simple pull of the trigger. Several types of blockages and malfunctions are possible (and fairly common) in semi-autos.
- Easier to determine if loaded: cartridges in a loaded revolver are readily apparent. An unloaded semi-auto is often visually identical to a loaded one
-Easier to clean and maintain: Revolvers have few exposed moving pieces and do not require disassembly. There is no risk of loss or breakage of pieces with a revolver. Semi-autos must be disassembled for cleaning, which may be difficult and risks losing or breaking vital pieces in the field or in darkness.
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One of the simi-auto's advantages over revolver actually supports my argument over accidental firings:
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- The nature of most semi-auto's operation makes the trigger pull much easier after the first round is fired, allowing for quick and accurate follow-up shots. Revolvers will always have strong trigger pulls unless the hammer is cocked before each shot, which greatly slows the shooter's rate of fire.
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1 edit | said by SmackWeasel:Here's a search battleop: » world.guns.ru/handguns/hg00-e.htmQuote: ...the revolvers were more reliable, primarily, because of the simplicity of the design....No jams, no stoppages. Even in the case of the misfire you just got to pull the trigger again - and next round will go. I don't care what that article says, you better be careful believing that crap. Depends upon the type of mis-fire. If the primer fires, it leaves the bullet jammed in the barrel. The next shot blows the gun up...and maybe blinds or kills you.
In a panic-situation, you won't comprehend the meaning of a low-noise primer firing.
Edit: BTW, this should be an ADEQUATE carry for a 5-2 female.
Browning 25 semi-automatic
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Maryville, TN | said by Ray422:I don't care what that article says, you better be careful believing that crap. Depends upon the type of mis-fire. If the primer fires, it leaves the bullet jammed in the barrel. The next shot blows the gun up...and maybe blinds or kills you. In a panic-situation, you won't comprehend the meaning of a low-noise primer firing. True, although you should note that it's not a revolver-specific problem; anything from a revolver to a bolt action rifle to a semi-auto handgun can potentially encounter a squib round. An ammo thing, unrelated to the host firearm.
On that note, have you seen this before? Scary.
»www.thegunzone.com/squib.html |
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said by Ray422:said by SmackWeasel:Edit: BTW, this should be an ADEQUATE carry for a 5-2 female. .25ACP is arguably the worst self defense round available. There's a reason you don't see a lot of the current crop of compact handguns chambered for .25ACP.
For an ultra-compact handgun, .380ACP would be a much better choice. Hell, even .22LR would probably be better than .25ACP. |
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kudos:3 | As Jeff Cooper said, you can use them for self defense, but if you have to shoot somebody with it, and they find out about it, they're going to be awfully mad!
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For some odd reason, I want to see a picture! |
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