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49533 | Are Upload Speeds the New Broadband Selling Point?
Another kudos to Verizon for their forward thinking.
Waiting for the inevitable responses from a few individuals that claim the only reason you need more bandwidth (up or down) is if you're a pirate. |
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1 edit | Actually you need more speed for LEGAL things. Downloading services like Steam, Stardock, GOG, EA (Well I guess), hd services, and streaming video, which is now popping up on every site.
From what I've seen of torrents, you never get even half your normal speed. |
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While DSLR types are getting a chubby for fast uploads, the "general public" has little use for it. Don't get me wrong, sure, you can slingbox, even HD slingbox, upload some HD videos, VPN, remote backups and a few other things, but hardly any of it is REALLY popular compared to the popularity of heavy download activities like streaming video.
Verizon should bump the 50/20 to 100/50 or something. At $140 it isn't like they are going to have a zillion people signing up but it would give them back the PR crown.
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But that stuff like Steam purchases are on the DL side, not the UL side. Aside from the nerd community "I" don't see huge demand for fat upload. If given the option between say 20/20 vs 50/10 I would "GUESS" most average users would take the 50/10. I'm certain there would be some here on DSLR who would take 10/50 LOL, I'm saying VZ subs in general would choose fatter DL over fatter UL.
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Once everyone has a cap. Cap size will be the selling point. I honestly couldn't give rats ass about upload. The 2 Mbps upload I get from Charter is more than fast enough for whatever I upload, which is nothing. 10 Mbps/10 Mbps or 20 Mbps/2 Mbps for the same price I'm taking 20/2 everytime. |
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Remote Storage is becoming popular and without fast upload it is not practical.
What our government needs to do is either make a law prohibiting ISP form restricting the internet in any way and that to be called broadband it must be symmetrical or force all ISPs to be separate from all video/TV/Phone companies.
Right now all the movement in the industry is being guided by ISPs being part of cable companies and phone companies who want to protect their video and phone products by limiting the internet.
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| said by r81984  :What our government needs to do is either make a law prohibiting ISP form restricting the internet in any way and that to be called broadband it must be symmetrical or force all ISPs to be separate from all video/TV/Phone companies. Right now all the movement in the industry is being guided by ISPs being part of cable companies and phone companies who want to protect their video and phone products by limiting the internet. Can we fix the economy before we spend the governments time forcing US based businesses to provide products which have incremental costs without associated revenue or may even have negative revenue implications? I think we have bigger problems before we change our politics to something where the government controls businesses. |
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r81984
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| said by yt :said by r81984 :What our government needs to do is either make a law prohibiting ISP form restricting the internet in any way and that to be called broadband it must be symmetrical or force all ISPs to be separate from all video/TV/Phone companies. Right now all the movement in the industry is being guided by ISPs being part of cable companies and phone companies who want to protect their video and phone products by limiting the internet. Can we fix the economy before we spend the governments time forcing US based businesses to provide products which have incremental costs without associated revenue or may even have negative revenue implications? I think we have bigger problems before we change our politics to something where the government controls businesses. These companies make plenty of revenue to be self sufficient ISPs, but they are using their control of the internet to protect non internet products they sell in different divisions of their companies.
Protecting the internet is good for our economy.
I am in canada right now for work and I have 512 down with a 2GB limit. WTF is the point of a 2 GB limit. We do not want to regress to be like Canada when it comes to internet.
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1 edit | said by r81984 :Protecting the internet is good for our economy. Protecting or regulating? In the US, government regulation assumes the free economy has failed. While there is posturing, FUD, etc around various interests (consumers, ISP business, CDNs, Content companies, search engines, etc) I don't see anything other than continued increase in speeds in the US without much increase in cost. Watch dog groups and competition done a fine job on "protecting". I don't see why the US government should get involved in regulation / socializing the Internet.
Telecommunications has been regulated over the past 100 years and look at all the innovation that happened there.
Since you made the statement, let me leave you with another thought. Is the Internet really [all] good for our economy? Yes it created a new industry, technology and jobs, but it also can take partial credit for the bubble / bust. The Internet is also creating a new generation of "everything is free" around music, video, etc. Online stores have impacted retail, newspapers are going out of business, Google has a near monopoly on the advertising business, etc, etc.
Perhaps this is just an evolutionary business shift, but I would not call it "all good"
That said, I love the Internet and what it has done for me personally. I'm just not sure that opinion is always shared and do worry about the long term impact of "everything is free and unlimited" generation we are creating and their long term impact on the economy. |
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| The internet does need to be protected because there is not enough competition to prevent this large companies from restricting it. All the government really has to do is to ban caps, port blocking, and any restrictions ISP want to put in place to try to protect their video, tv, and voice services.
The internet has been great for our economy.
Google does not have a monopoly on advertising except on their site and those that choose to use google ads on their websites.
I do not know why you think the "everything is free on the internet" generation is new, that generation is over. The new generation is about overpaying for an mp3 player because its an ipod and paying a fortune for music off itunes. Kids now a days do not know how to download free stuff. It is really a shame.
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| In almost all situations, I'd rather cross that bridge when it happens vs a preemptive government regulatory strike.
As far as Google, they were genius and helped enable the "everything on the Internet is free" model while they cornered the ad revenue market with a clean and simple advertising ecosystem that anyone can use. The barrier to entry in that ad growth market is pretty large and Google(+Doubleclick's) 70+% world wide dominance is epoch. Combine that with owning "the starting point on the Internet" and you have to see that this was genius (and probably never allowed for any other company) |
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