Greg_Z
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Springfield, IL
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Re: Is Blu-Ray a Failure?
Cost is one reason that it is not being adopted, and with the recession, people are not purchasing the toys like they where 2 years ago. Give BR another 2 years, and you will see another price drop, and once the discs get cheaper, then maybe more people will adopt.
Also factor in the live streaming abilities with Netflix, Xbox online, Amazon.com, also people are choosing to stream vs purchasing discs.
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Jmartz
join:2000-07-20
Tenafly, NJ
1 edit | said by Greg_Z  :Cost is one reason that it is not being adopted, and with the recession, people are not purchasing the toys like they where 2 years ago. Give BR another 2 years, and you will see another price drop, and once the discs get cheaper, then maybe more people will adopt. I don't think price has anything to do with it. I think most people aren't ready to upgrade movies they already have, and have only had for a couple years.
If price in this economy is really an issue, why did Apple sell 1 million iPhones last weekend? Granted, they weren't all sold in the USA, but still... that's a pretty impressive amount of sales in a global economy that stinks right now.
They need to push Bluray better. If they want it to take off, they need to stop manufacturing movies in the SD format and release only Bluray. Until you see movie studios retiring the old format, it's going to be a tough sell. People will pay, but most will not buy the same movie for $10 more just for Bluray. Netflix increased my rate by 25% last month just for Bluray access. I promptly removed it from my subscription. |
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xrobertcmx
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Sterling, VA
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Price is absolutly one reason. I have both a PS3 and an HD TV. What I don't have is $30.00 a disk to buy them. In the past year and a half that I've had a PS3 to go with my pretty little 26in TV I have bought all of 3 games and 5 Blue Ray movies. Several of the games I've wanted have been $30 more then the PC version, and I unless I really, really like the movie I won't buy it so that I can only watch it on the one television in the house connected to a Blue-Ray player.
I can save $15 and go with the DVD Version which will play on the PS3, the Philips DVD player in my bedroom, and is rippable for playback on my iPod, or streamable to the PS3.
No, a copy protected, only playable on the iPod digital copy is not good enough.
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| said by xrobertcmx :Price is absolutly one reason. I have both a PS3 and an HD TV. What I don't have is $30.00 a disk to buy them. Where are these $30 blu-rays?
here are new movies on blu-ray
Gran Torino (With BD-Live + Digital Copy) (Widescreen) $24.86
Twilight $23.86
Taken (Blu-ray) (2-Disc) (Extended Cut With Digital Copy) $22.86
Watchmen: Director's Cut (2-Disc Special Edition) (With BD Live + Digital Copy) $24.86
Fast & Furious: Special Edition (Blu-ray With BD-Live) (2-Disc) $24.86
Knowing $23.86
Paul Blart: Mall Cop (2-Disc) (With Digital Copy & BD-Live) (Blu-ray) $23.86
Valkyrie (With Digital Copy) $24.96
Sorry I can't find a blu-ray movie for over $25. And most of those listed also come with a digital copy. |
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normat
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Boynton Beach, FL
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| Not to mention, I think it's possible blu-ray players could eventually hit a price point that even people with SD sets would consider them. There wouldn't be too much of a benefit for them other than better and faster disk menus and future proofing their library. |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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Jamestown, NC
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| said by normat :Not to mention, I think it's possible blu-ray players could eventually hit a price point that even people with SD sets would consider them. There wouldn't be too much of a benefit for them other than better and faster disk menus and future proofing their library. I agree that price is a barrier. I wonder though, will the price of entry for Blu-Ray drop fast enough before an alternative contender shows up? A quick perusal of Best Buy.com shows there are no-name brands going for $199, which is much closer to the proper price point.
I wonder how low Blu-Ray can go since Sony requires a licensing fee however? I'm also curious to know if the firmware updates will be a deterrent. I've had several people call me about firmware updates because they didn't understand how to perform them and couldn't watch a movie. |
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imtim83
You All Deserve The Economic Meltdown
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join:2001-06-03
Kenner, LA
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said by BF69 :said by xrobertcmx :Price is absolutly one reason. I have both a PS3 and an HD TV. What I don't have is $30.00 a disk to buy them. Where are these $30 blu-rays? here are new movies on blu-ray Gran Torino (With BD-Live + Digital Copy) (Widescreen) $24.86 Twilight $23.86 Taken (Blu-ray) (2-Disc) (Extended Cut With Digital Copy) $22.86 Watchmen: Director's Cut (2-Disc Special Edition) (With BD Live + Digital Copy) $24.86 Fast & Furious: Special Edition (Blu-ray With BD-Live) (2-Disc) $24.86 Knowing $23.86 Paul Blart: Mall Cop (2-Disc) (With Digital Copy & BD-Live) (Blu-ray) $23.86 Valkyrie (With Digital Copy) $24.96 Sorry I can't find a blu-ray movie for over $25. And most of those listed also come with a digital copy. Oh my god those are all hollywood films with many being horrible. Sorry but until the market for blu-ray includes foreign films too forget about blu-ray. |
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imtim83
You All Deserve The Economic Meltdown
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join:2001-06-03
Kenner, LA
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said by Matt :said by normat :Not to mention, I think it's possible blu-ray players could eventually hit a price point that even people with SD sets would consider them. There wouldn't be too much of a benefit for them other than better and faster disk menus and future proofing their library. I agree that price is a barrier. I wonder though, will the price of entry for Blu-Ray drop fast enough before an alternative contender shows up? A quick perusal of Best Buy.com shows there are no-name brands going for $199, which is much closer to the proper price point. I wonder how low Blu-Ray can go since Sony requires a licensing fee however? I'm also curious to know if the firmware updates will be a deterrent. I've had several people call me about firmware updates because they didn't understand how to perform them and couldn't watch a movie. That sucks for them. I have a feeling a lot of people don't even want to deal with that kind of problem. |
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franknbeans
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
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said by Matt :I agree that price is a barrier. I wonder though, will the price of entry for Blu-Ray drop fast enough before an alternative contender shows up? A quick perusal of Best Buy.com shows there are no-name brands going for $199, which is much closer to the proper price point. My local wal-mart which isn't a very big one has at least 3 name brand models under $200 |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
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said by imtim83 :said by BF69 :said by xrobertcmx :Price is absolutly one reason. I have both a PS3 and an HD TV. What I don't have is $30.00 a disk to buy them. Where are these $30 blu-rays? here are new movies on blu-ray Gran Torino (With BD-Live + Digital Copy) (Widescreen) $24.86 Twilight $23.86 Taken (Blu-ray) (2-Disc) (Extended Cut With Digital Copy) $22.86 Watchmen: Director's Cut (2-Disc Special Edition) (With BD Live + Digital Copy) $24.86 Fast & Furious: Special Edition (Blu-ray With BD-Live) (2-Disc) $24.86 Knowing $23.86 Paul Blart: Mall Cop (2-Disc) (With Digital Copy & BD-Live) (Blu-ray) $23.86 Valkyrie (With Digital Copy) $24.96 Sorry I can't find a blu-ray movie for over $25. And most of those listed also come with a digital copy. Oh my god those are all hollywood films with many being horrible. Sorry but until the market for blu-ray includes foreign films too forget about blu-ray. A) foreign films were enver specified
B) "quality" was never specified and how one would quantify that is impossible anyways.
All that was mentioned was "I won't buy blu-rays because they are $30" and I've proven there are no $30 blu-rays. there WERE which must mean prices are dropping liek they did with DVDs and VHS. So if people would quit bitching and let the market take it's course you'll get you blu-rays priced the same as DVDs before too long. Hell it took a decade and a half for a new movie on VHS to be under $20. Less than 18 months removed from the end of the format war and you expect $5 blu-rays. |
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