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gord27

join:2005-05-01
Mississauga, ON
reply to Guspaz
Re: Linksys announces the WRT54GL's successor: WRT160NL

cool thanks. i found a few places with a google search that backed up that this is linux based.

gord27

join:2005-05-01
Mississauga, ON
reply to Guspaz
both canada computers and ncix have these in stock. 114.99 from cc and 129.99 from ncix.

infonec can get them. not sure on price.

how soon before these work with tomato/mlppp?


annononnn

@bell.ca

reply to Guspaz
»www.smallnetbuilder.com/content/···0839/96/

router been out for a few months suggest reading some reviews, wait on 3rd party firmware b4 rushing out to buy.


Guspaz
Guspaz
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join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
·Colbanet


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The L stands for Linux. How do we know? The blurb from Cisco's site:

Do More, Faster
Enjoy fast wireless connectivity for your home or home office. The Linux-based Wireless-N Broadband Router with Storage Link is designed to deliver plenty of speed and coverage, so multiple users can go online, transfer large files, print, and stream stored media – all at once, all without wires. Great for bigger homes. Easy to use, and easy to install on Windows or Mac.
(emphasis mine)

Tomato/MLPPP won't be ported over until Tomato is.


Kareeser
hm?
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join:2006-07-18
Hamilton, ON
·Bell Sympatico
·TekSavvy Solutions..

reply to Guspaz
Great to hear!

quote:
infonec can get them. not sure on price.
I've been quoted $116. They can get them in immediately, but there doesn't seem to be a need, since the Tomato firmware isn't ported over yet.

I'll notify my contact at Infonec once Tomato has been modified to work with it

gord27

join:2005-05-01
Mississauga, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..

said by Kareeser See Profile :

Great to hear!

quote:
infonec can get them. not sure on price.
I've been quoted $116. They can get them in immediately, but there doesn't seem to be a need, since the Tomato firmware isn't ported over yet.

I'll notify my contact at Infonec once Tomato has been modified to work with it
hehe, my contact price matched cc at 114.99.

oh well, no rush anyway since we're not on adsl 2 yet. my wrt54gl appears to be handling 3x6meg no problems yet.


Kareeser
hm?
Premium
join:2006-07-18
Hamilton, ON
:O

I want your contact.

tonydi
Premium,MVM
join:2001-05-11
San Jose, CA
reply to Guspaz
Newegg actually shows it for $78.99.

»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···33124343


nobody here

@bell.ca
reply to Guspaz
that the one from the stats u want newegg.ca

»www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as···33124343

$96 on sale $130 orginal


insomniac84

join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN


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said by Guspaz See Profile :

As many of you are aware, there is extremely limited support for custom firmware on 802.11n routers. There are a handful that sort-of work, like DD-WRT will run on *SOME* versions of certain routers, but not all.

Linksys just announced the successor to the venerable WRT54GL: the WRT160NL. Sells for $110 USD:
Utterly ridiculous.

»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···33162026

$50 dollar buffalo router that works perfectly fine with dd-wrt. The 802.11n also works fine.

They need to do much much better on their price.

chronoss2009

join:2008-09-23
reply to Guspaz
110USD is TOOOOO MUCH

FAIL


TSI Gabe
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join:2007-01-03
Chatham, ON
reply to Guspaz
Re: Linksys announces the WRT54GL's successor: WRT160NL

I'm assuming that chipset is using the ARM instruction set?


Guspaz
Guspaz
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join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
No, it's a MIPS processor like the WRT54GL.


Guspaz
Guspaz
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join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
·Colbanet

reply to insomniac84
said by insomniac84 See Profile :

said by Guspaz See Profile :

As many of you are aware, there is extremely limited support for custom firmware on 802.11n routers. There are a handful that sort-of work, like DD-WRT will run on *SOME* versions of certain routers, but not all.

Linksys just announced the successor to the venerable WRT54GL: the WRT160NL. Sells for $110 USD:
Utterly ridiculous.

»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···33162026

$50 dollar buffalo router that works perfectly fine with dd-wrt. The 802.11n also works fine.

They need to do much much better on their price.
"Buffalo, unfortunately, encrypts their firmware, and their routers will accept only encrypted firmware in the web interface."

Yeah, it's a pretty modder-unfriendly router, that Buffalo. It's supported by a very few unstable builds of DD-WRT and nothing else, not even Open-WRT. And NewEgg's reviews are 3/5 with the first commenter saying it is a "Nice paper weight"

murdoc2k

join:2009-02-27
reply to Guspaz
any news that this router will work with tomato firmware yet? That's what I care about the most lol....

pandora
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join:2001-06-01
Outland
·ooma
·Future Nine Corpor..
·Comcast

 reply to Guspaz
I've been reading this thread.

I don't see this as much of an upgrade without gigabit support. My current use for my Linksys WRTSL54GS is as both a router and as NAS. It's greatest limitation is a USB (as opposed to an ESATA) and 10 / 100 ethernet.

A replacement for a WRT54GL should really have 2 USB ports and 1 or 2 ESATA ports IMO plus it should be gigabit ethernet capable.

The vanilla firmware should support IPv4 and IPv6 out of the box.

Flash memory should be 32-64MB, and RAM should be at least 128MB, possibly 512MB.

It is time Linksys released a router which was also a slim Linux box with some capability.
--
"People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use."


Guspaz
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join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
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said by pandora See Profile :

I've been reading this thread.

I don't see this as much of an upgrade without gigabit support. My current use for my Linksys WRTSL54GS is as both a router and as NAS. It's greatest limitation is a USB (as opposed to an ESATA) and 10 / 100 ethernet.

A replacement for a WRT54GL should really have 2 USB ports and 1 or 2 ESATA ports IMO plus it should be gigabit ethernet capable.

The vanilla firmware should support IPv4 and IPv6 out of the box.

Flash memory should be 32-64MB, and RAM should be at least 128MB, possibly 512MB.

It is time Linksys released a router which was also a slim Linux box with some capability.
Gigabit really isn't required, since no device that must be connected to a wifi router requires that speed. The router can always be connected to a cheap gigabit switch to get identical functionality.

Asking for 32-64 megs of flash and 128-512 megs of ram is unreasonably high. If you want that sort of functionality, you should look into the Alix 2d3 boxes, which have 500MHz AMD Geode (x86) processors, three NICs, two USB ports, 256MB of RAM, optional wireless, and as much flash as you can cram into a CF card. They're smaller than a WRT54GL, run any stock Linux distro you want (including ZeroShell/MLPPP), and cost IIRC something in the neighbourhood of $200 all-in.


Inssomniak
Premium
join:2005-04-06
Cayuga, ON


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said by Guspaz See Profile :

FYI: »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11n

As far as I can tell, 600mbit needs 4 spatial streams and 40MHz channels. You'll note that "54mbit" 802.11g only does 19mbit/s in practice.
Finding a clean enough 40mhz of bandwidth in pretty much any environment in 2.4ghz to reach these speeds is what I call virtually impossible.

On a side note, its really easy to reach 32 megs a second in 20mhz of spectrum using mikrotik proprietary polling with CSMA disabled

That atheros processor will own for sure. They are well supported in linux.


insomniac84

join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN

reply to Guspaz
said by Guspaz See Profile :

"Buffalo, unfortunately, encrypts their firmware, and their routers will accept only encrypted firmware in the web interface."

Yeah, it's a pretty modder-unfriendly router, that Buffalo. It's supported by a very few unstable builds of DD-WRT and nothing else, not even Open-WRT. And NewEgg's reviews are 3/5 with the first commenter saying it is a "Nice paper weight"
Well that is a complete lie. It sounds like you are biased for a brand which is both funny and sad. I bought one last week to replace a wrt54glv2 that was dying and am using the buffalo right now. The thing seems to have zero problems. Most likely the bad review was from an older version of the firmware or someone who tried to flash it before they made the tftp version. I am using "DD-WRT v24-sp2 (05/21/09) std - build 12188" which is the version it recommends on dd-wrt.com.

All you do is download the "firmware.tftp" which is the tftp version of the firmware and go to »dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/WHR-G300N
quote:
The latest DD-WRT build has a new, easy, and safe way to flash a WHR-G300N router. To do this, just Tftp_flash the firmware.tftp image to 192.168.11.1 in the 1st three seconds of booting when the router is in recovery mode.
Just load it up via tftp and the thing works instantly. The only problem I had was that windows 7 had too much of a delay in connecting via ethernet to flash it in the first 3 seconds. I had to use an xp machine to get it to work.

I bought it because all of linksys's routers were way to expensive. It's like they are using "N" as an excuse to jack their prices up. Personally 110 bucks for a router to me is ridiculous.


insomniac84

join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN


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