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I do not see why this has to be so complicated

Here is a simple argument against that: I do not use VOIP. I pay the same as my neighbor who does use VOIP. Why should his data have a higher priority than mine?

Even then you are putting one customer's needs over another, while they are both paying for the same service.

reply to NOCMan
I think NOCMan has the right idea.

Although I might swap Tier 3 and 4. (Streaming Media is usually more sensitive to congestion than HTTP/SMTP/POP)

reply to fAcEtIOUs
And because VOIP is much more sensitive to latency and jitter then HTTP/SMTP/POP or P2P traffic.

Since P2P apps tend to be bandwidth hogs and they are usually very tolerant of latency and jitter they should receive "worse" treatment than the VOIP and HTTP/POP/SMTP traffic.

I would love to find a provider that prioritizes VOIP and Streaming Media over P2P. I would sign up in heart beat.

reply to NOCMan
however gaming isnt a #5 item, as it isnt as fault resistant. id put it over POP and SMTP. mail can run a tad slow and people wont notice it like another customer will a 400 ping in a game.
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reply to Lazlow
.. and here's another simple argument.. who's to say that my FTP data "can wait"... What if I'm trying to get a file to someone via FTP, which is NOT p2p, rather, it's just over the 10mb email limit and needs to go FTP.. such as art work for ad copy or what ever..

Sorry, but the P2P community is pushing into an area they have no grounds to stand on.. they need to humble themselves just a little before queen pelosi not only outlaws P2P, but maybe also considers taxing internet connections at 45% as she's stated in the past.

P2P'ers always try to claim that there is nothing illegal going on, which if that's the case, then there is nothing to talk about then, becuase P2P traffic that are things like patches and distros HARDLY are eating up the amount of the overall P2P traffic on the net.. however, movies, music and other software packages that have copyright claims on them ARE.

Tier 1:
Http and FTP

Tier 2:
Gaming, VOIP and VPN.

Tier 3:
Streaming Media(trust me people call about their hulu and youtube being choppy A LOT more then pop3 being slow)

Tier 4:
Email Protocalls

Tier 5:
P2P, and other misc protocalls
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[65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports

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reply to Kearnstd
Oh good God! STOP! Please?!

What if 20 years ago, someone decided to tier the Internet based on the the traffic patters popular in that day? HTTP would have never emerged to take the lead. VOIP wouldn't have made it off of the bench.

There's a reason why the net architecture means that protocol != priority. Because it simply is not.
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reply to fiberguy
Fiberguy

I think your reply is pretty funny, considering I do not p2p.

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reply to fiberguy
get a SO/HO plan that doesnt have QoS but cost more
say the normal res 10/1 is $50/month
a SO/HO would be 200/month for 10/1 but no QoS restrictions

reply to Kearnstd
wile not high bandwidth it IS sensative to lag
if VOIP is higher then every thing else gaming should be too
sure it doesnt use much bandwidth but if the node is congested your ping is going to go up

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