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 funchordsHelloPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:5 | This is not all that new ... needs more detail ... I've had multiple conversations eluding to a system very much like this. In fact, the "visit the customer portal" part is a very distinct feature from those conversations (and no, it wasn't my idea nor was it cable's). I think cable will have a hard time with a patent. I've certainly expressed significant portions of this idea online here or there. But the patent isn't a reason to do this or not to do this.
Before we poop all over this idea, I'd like to hear more about it. It appears to treat everything equally UNLESS the customer opts to do something different. That's fine with me. In fact, that's the way things probably ought to be.
NOCman, the reason we don't all adopt your view is that we all don't agree with it. Yes, 90% of us do (or we all do 90% of the time), but where does streaming P2P fit in? What if my FTP upload is highly urgent? I don't like your idea because it puts protocol in the priority seat -- well, that's just not how the 'net was designed (even though it does work most of the time). Thanks for sharing it in detail, though. It isn't a completely bad idea, but it does have some serious pitfalls.
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If your FTP upload is highly urgent, then the ISP should be investing their billions in profit back into their network to make sure EVERYONE can use their connections as they see fit.
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funchordsHelloPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:5 | said by sonicmerlin:If your FTP upload is highly urgent, then the ISP should be investing their billions in profit back into their network to make sure EVERYONE can use their connections as they see fit. Congratulations, you've been paying attention!
But what I actually said was that he was right for the most part.
This idea is consistent with what I've been telling ISPs as well: if you allow your users to help you decide relative priority, you'll find that their interests by and large match your own. P2P users like to surf the net, too, so they put their own P2P traffic on lower priority. Allow them to extend that idea and the whole neighborhood benefits. VOIP users tend to give that traffic higher precedence. So allow users to put a little bandwidth at high precedence and extend that priority through the network.
This "invention" is one way to implement that idea. (And the scare quotes don't mean it's my idea -- the prioritization schema is owing to the IETF and the web page interface was communicated to me by someone else and I don't know if it's even his idea.)
said by sonicmerlin:Don't blame end users for the ISPs being greedy and anti-competitive. That thought would never occur to me.
Somehow, I bet, we actually don't agree. But everything you've said above chimes with what I've been saying.
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