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[Rant] store shopping carts

anyone hate shopping cart designs - every store i go to has the style with the child seat that folds out. they also have short seat belt straps that get tangled when they push the carts together. hard to get one from the lineup and i rarely see anyone put a child in the seat. most of the people let the kids sit in the cart. why don't stores just get a few of that type? - doesn't make much sense to me
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Because of parents that cannot watch their kids anymore, would scream & piss a fit. My daughter was strapped to one of those, and she undid the strap, and stood up. Over comes cart, then daughter hit the ground. She also had the habit of undoing her car seat buckle, and walking to the front of the van.

We laugh about this now, that she is 16, but she really was a modern day Houdini.
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If someone can invent good wheels for shopping carts they'll make tons of money. There's always at least 1 wheel on a cart that wobbles or freezes, imperiling condiments and rutabagas.

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said by fatness See Profile :

If someone can invent good wheels for shopping carts they'll make tons of money. There's always at least 1 wheel on a cart that wobbles or freezes, imperiling condiments and rutabagas.
They aren't designed to be pushed and turned in trains of 100+ and thats what puts the flat spots and screws them so they wobble.
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There's always at least 1 wheel on a cart that wobbles or freezes,
They were designed that way, you know....
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said by fatness See Profile :

imperiling condiments and rutabagas.
LOL! I agree. I always get stuck with one of those stupid carts that has the flat spot. Annoying as hell, but on the bright side, at least those annoying oblivious shoppers hear me coming so I don't have to constantly say "Excuse me." to get them to move their cart from the middle of the aisle.
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Carts are about as nasty as they come. Think of the all people that had there hands on that bar. When is the last time any one has seen them clean the carts? It would scare the hell out of people if they seen what grew in a petri dish and we put our hands right on that bar. LOL Yes the wheels piss me off in a bad way. It all comes down to one thing SAVE A BUCK!

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said by Heshup See Profile :

Carts are about as nasty as they come. Think of the all people that had there hands on that bar. When is the last time any one has seen them clean the carts? It would scare the hell out of people if they seen what grew in a petri dish and we put our hands right on that bar.

The local grocery store here has antibacterial wipes in a dispenser just inside the door for customers who wish to wipe the handle off.

There is also a trash can for disposal of the debris that the previous inconsiderate slob has left in the cart.

A visit to the supermarket is a lesson on how disgusting people really are.
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said by wilbilt See Profile :

said by Heshup See Profile :

Carts are about as nasty as they come. Think of the all people that had there hands on that bar. When is the last time any one has seen them clean the carts? It would scare the hell out of people if they seen what grew in a petri dish and we put our hands right on that bar.

The local grocery store here has antibacterial wipes in a dispenser just inside the door for customers who wish to wipe the handle off.
Ours have that too.
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All the stores here have the antibacterial wipes at the entrance. Plus, my favorite store has a bunch of the mini wagons. I LOVE those.
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said by wilbilt See Profile :

The local grocery store here has antibacterial wipes in a dispenser just inside the door for customers who wish to wipe the handle off.
The wipes are pointless given that all the stuff on the shelves has been handled by people. And just to be sure everyone shares, your cashier will handle everything again, passing the germs from the previous customer on to your goods.

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said by DonLibes See Profile :

The wipes are pointless given that all the stuff on the shelves has been handled by people. And just to be sure everyone shares, your cashier will handle everything again, passing the germs from the previous customer on to your goods.
MY cashier uses telekinesis
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A visit to the supermarket is a lesson on how disgusting people really are.
Not without a side trip to the "rest" room...
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said by Heshup See Profile :



Carts are about as nasty as they come. Think of the all people that had there hands on that bar. When is the last time any one has seen them clean the carts? It would scare the hell out of people if they seen what grew in a petri dish and we put our hands right on that bar. LOL Yes the wheels piss me off in a bad way. It all comes down to one thing SAVE A BUCK!

Thats why most wal-mart stores now have hand sanitizer wipes next to carts at entrance..
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said by Heshup See Profile :



Carts are about as nasty as they come. Think of the all people that had there hands on that bar. When is the last time any one has seen them clean the carts? It would scare the hell out of people if they seen what grew in a petri dish and we put our hands right on that bar. LOL Yes the wheels piss me off in a bad way. It all comes down to one thing SAVE A BUCK!

The handle bars get cleaned regularly, by the users' hands.

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With all this sanitizer wipe talk just how many times do people see other people using them? On my end NONE! NEVER! So a lot of good they be when people never use them. The point is that carts are nasty! I know my self that I pick my ass when I am in the store. Man has to do what a man needs to do at the time. LMAOROTF

The two stores here have no sanitizer wipes.

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In our grocery stores now cashiers wear gloves or use hand sanitizer between checking out each person. Most everyone stops to get the wipes at the front of the stores and wipes off the wagon handle. I carry hand sanitizer in my purse now. No one here wants to get Swine flu. Maybe things will change once the vaccine is available.
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said by Mele20 See Profile :

In our grocery stores now cashiers wear gloves or use hand sanitizer between checking out each person.
Maybe it's just me, but when I see a cashier wearing disposable latex gloves, I feel like I have some sort of dread disease.

I mean, I'm cool with the hand sanitizer, but I really don't see the need for wearing gloves, so long as you don't touch your nose or mouth (something I don't want to see a cashier doing anyway).
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said by Mr Neutron See Profile :

said by Mele20 See Profile :

In our grocery stores now cashiers wear gloves or use hand sanitizer between checking out each person.
Maybe it's just me, but when I see a cashier wearing disposable latex gloves, I feel like I have some sort of dread disease.

I mean, I'm cool with the hand sanitizer, but I really don't see the need for wearing gloves, so long as you don't touch your nose or mouth (something I don't want to see a cashier doing anyway).
[sarcasm] maybe we should have all cashiers where hasmat suites? actually would be kinda cool. [/sarcasm]

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said by thedragonmas See Profile :

said by Mr Neutron See Profile :

said by Mele20 See Profile :

In our grocery stores now cashiers wear gloves or use hand sanitizer between checking out each person.
Maybe it's just me, but when I see a cashier wearing disposable latex gloves, I feel like I have some sort of dread disease.

I mean, I'm cool with the hand sanitizer, but I really don't see the need for wearing gloves, so long as you don't touch your nose or mouth (something I don't want to see a cashier doing anyway).
[sarcasm] maybe we should have all cashiers where hasmat suites? actually would be kinda cool. [/sarcasm]
Maybe I shouldn't say this, but I've always entertained fantasies about kitting out a store full of cashiers in the manner of the scientists in the film The Andromeda Strain:

»www.imdb.com/media/rm24745984/tt0066769

...just to see what the reaction of the shoppers would be.

Terror? Confusion? Mass incontinence? Who knows?

I do know that my April Fools jokes don't tend to have that kind of budget. Which perhaps is just as well.
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The Walmart here has the deli workers pretty close to it. They've got paper hairnets, paper full frontal face masks (Not like a doctors, they're full frontal and on some people cover ears aswell), paper aprons, elbow-high plastic gloves, and what basically amount to waders (almost knee high rubber boots). The comical appearance aside, it doesn't go through my head as "Oh good I don't have to worry about bodily fluids/hair/feet ending up in my bologna" It's more of a "How bad are the sanitary conditions and the way employees handle food if they're being made to wear all that..."
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do you want the residue from crack on your hands that could be on the money? or UV Ink if the money was stolen from a bank?

Also if the gloves are Blue they're not latex which most companies use blue ones.
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said by Heshup See Profile :



Carts are about as nasty as they come. Think of the all people that had there hands on that bar. When is the last time any one has seen them clean the carts? It would scare the hell out of people if they seen what grew in a petri dish and we put our hands right on that bar. LOL Yes the wheels piss me off in a bad way. It all comes down to one thing SAVE A BUCK!

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A local law forces stores to put a device on the cart that chains the cart to the one in front of it. You have to put a quarter in it before the cart can be unlatched from the cart in front of it. This is to get you to return the cart to the corral and not litter the parking lot with carts.
Woe to anyone who dare go shopping without a quarter !

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said by lew_b See Profile :

Woe to anyone who dare go shopping without a quarter !
I'm not familiar with those. Do you get your quarter back at the end?

I wonder if the hassle of having to produce a quarter before you get to use a cart drives away business?
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said by lew_b See Profile :

Woe to anyone who dare go shopping without a quarter !
I'm not familiar with those. Do you get your quarter back at the end?

I wonder if the hassle of having to produce a quarter before you get to use a cart drives away business?
Yeah, plugging the end of the cable from the cart in front of you into your cart releases the quarter.
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Woe to anyone who dare go shopping without a quarter !
I'm not familiar with those. Do you get your quarter back at the end?

I wonder if the hassle of having to produce a quarter before you get to use a cart drives away business?
Yeah, plugging the end of the cable from the cart in front of you into your cart releases the quarter.
Oh dear!! Here I thought I was purchasing the carts for a quarter all this time!!

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Oh dear!! Here I thought I was purchasing the carts for a quarter all this time!!
I wonder if you can fool the mechanism with slugs? A coin acceptance mechanism in something like that isn't likely to be too sophisticated.

(I ask because I would probably walk off without reclaiming my quarter, too.)
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I wonder if you can fool the mechanism with slugs?
I doubt it. Slugs are very slow and not too bright. And if you have salt on your hands just forget it.

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LOL. You're in rare form today Fatness!

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said by Mr Neutron See Profile :

I wonder if you can fool the mechanism with slugs?
I doubt it. Slugs are very slow and not too bright. And if you have salt on your hands just forget it.
Maybe if you froze them first...
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said by Mr Neutron See Profile :

said by mcd See Profile :

Oh dear!! Here I thought I was purchasing the carts for a quarter all this time!!
I wonder if you can fool the mechanism with slugs? A coin acceptance mechanism in something like that isn't likely to be too sophisticated.

(I ask because I would probably walk off without reclaiming my quarter, too.)
I think it's some sort of incentive to bring your cart back to the appropriate place. Theoretically, it should reduce costs because the market should then not need a person to do this work. Or if people don't bring them back, the store generates revenue...those quarters add up. However, I don't remember seeing my grocery prices go down and to be honest, sometimes it's just easier to leave the cart wherever.
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said by fishacura See Profile :

However, I don't remember seeing my grocery prices go down and to be honest, sometimes it's just easier to leave the cart wherever.
That's the thing: I can't see paying someone to round up carts as being all that significant an expense. Likewise, forking out a quarter to use a cart is somewhat of an incentive for people (esp. people like me) to bring it back, but not a very compelling one if you're in a hurry, or just plain don't feel like walking back.

I find myself wondering (worrying?) if this might be an ongoing trend, or if the stores that have done this have found that, ultimately, it's not good for business to require people to come up with a quarter before they can grab a cart.
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said by fishacura See Profile :

I think it's some sort of incentive to bring your cart back to the appropriate place. Theoretically, it should reduce costs because the market should then not need a person to do this work. Or if people don't bring them back, the store generates revenue...those quarters add up. However, I don't remember seeing my grocery prices go down and to be honest, sometimes it's just easier to leave the cart wherever.
You wind up with homeless bums fighting over getting carts back to the station.

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said by fishacura See Profile :

I think it's some sort of incentive to bring your cart back to the appropriate place. Theoretically, it should reduce costs because the market should then not need a person to do this work. Or if people don't bring them back, the store generates revenue...those quarters add up. However, I don't remember seeing my grocery prices go down and to be honest, sometimes it's just easier to leave the cart wherever.
You wind up with homeless bums fighting over getting carts back to the station.
I have to wonder if stores have actually lost business as a result of forcing the "coin carts" onto their customers.

As you point out, coin-filled carts are one hell of an attractant for the local homeless population. Who then have a strong incentive to start hanging around the parking lot and make a nuisance of themselves.

This can't be an endearing thing for a store to have happen and I'm guessing that if additional measures aren't taken to keep away the local homeless population, (i.e. measures that will cost money, you know, like the money the special carts were supposed to save) their presence in the store parking lot is going to cause at least some customers to start shopping elsewhere.
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said by Mr Neutron See Profile :

said by patcat88 See Profile :

said by fishacura See Profile :

I think it's some sort of incentive to bring your cart back to the appropriate place. Theoretically, it should reduce costs because the market should then not need a person to do this work. Or if people don't bring them back, the store generates revenue...those quarters add up. However, I don't remember seeing my grocery prices go down and to be honest, sometimes it's just easier to leave the cart wherever.
You wind up with homeless bums fighting over getting carts back to the station.
I have to wonder if stores have actually lost business as a result of forcing the "coin carts" onto their customers.

As you point out, coin-filled carts are one hell of an attractant for the local homeless population. Who then have a strong incentive to start hanging around the parking lot and make a nuisance of themselves.

This can't be an endearing thing for a store to have happen and I'm guessing that if additional measures aren't taken to keep away the local homeless population, (i.e. measures that will cost money, you know, like the money the special carts were supposed to save) their presence in the store parking lot is going to cause at least some customers to start shopping elsewhere.
The smart retailer would convert them to token based coins for the carts that have no cash value. putting the homeless at bay.
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said by dvd536 See Profile :

The smart retailer would convert them to token based coins for the carts that have no cash value. putting the homeless at bay.
Except there's additional expense involved in buying the tokens and coming up with some way of getting them to shoppers.

I have a feeling that if the coin carts become widespread, shoppers are going to come up with their own, uh, "tokens" and ways to get the use of a cart without having to shell out money for them. After all, the coin acceptance mechanism can't be all that complex (i.e. hard to fool) for such a simple application.

From what little I can gather, though, that type of cart is still relatively rare. I understand why a business would consider their purchase and use, but I'm just not sure if, at the end of the day, they come out ahead on the deal. [shrugs]
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said by Mr Neutron See Profile :

I wonder if you can fool the mechanism with slugs? A coin acceptance mechanism in something like that isn't likely to be too sophisticated.

(I ask because I would probably walk off without reclaiming my quarter, too.)
Because of pure laziness.
I mean how long does it take to push a friggin empty cart 20 feet.
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Woe to anyone who dare go shopping without a quarter !
I'm not familiar with those. Do you get your quarter back at the end?

I wonder if the hassle of having to produce a quarter before you get to use a cart drives away business?
Yeah, plugging the end of the cable from the cart in front of you into your cart releases the quarter.
Aldi used those here for years. »aldi.us/index_ENU_HTML.htm

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said by lew_b See Profile :

said by Mr Neutron See Profile :

said by lew_b See Profile :

Woe to anyone who dare go shopping without a quarter !
I'm not familiar with those. Do you get your quarter back at the end?

I wonder if the hassle of having to produce a quarter before you get to use a cart drives away business?
Yeah, plugging the end of the cable from the cart in front of you into your cart releases the quarter.
Is there a magnet contained in the red cable end, perhaps? Is that what pops out your quarter?
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said by Mr Neutron See Profile :

Is there a magnet contained in the red cable end, perhaps? Is that what pops out your quarter?
No, it's just a piece of metal shaped like an oblong 'O'that gets pushed into the back of the unit on the other cart. Once the metal piece clicks in, the slot holding the quarter releases from it's catch, freeing the quarter.
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I've seen 2 kinds of these, ones like the one pictured that capture the quarter and then release it from a slot. The other type has a tray that you put the quarter in to then you slide the tray into the body of the device to free the metal piece from the other cart.

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said by lew_b See Profile :

said by Mr Neutron See Profile :

said by lew_b See Profile :

Woe to anyone who dare go shopping without a quarter !
I'm not familiar with those. Do you get your quarter back at the end?

I wonder if the hassle of having to produce a quarter before you get to use a cart drives away business?
Yeah, plugging the end of the cable from the cart in front of you into your cart releases the quarter.
I really hate these carts. They have them at most pathmark's in the Bronx. All it does is attract the local bums who wait for you to unload your items and then take the cart so they can get the quarter. They always get pissed when I bring my own cart back and get my quarter. I've stopped shopping at any store that uses this ridiculous system.
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said by Thinkdiff See Profile :

I really hate these carts. They have them at most pathmark's in the Bronx.
Is Pathmark an American store? Or is it a European outfit doing business in the US?

The deposit-type carts seem to be par for the course in Europe, but relatively scarce here in the US. Personally, I hope they stay that way, but maybe the economy being so bad will help spur their adoption here. [shrugs]

said by Thinkdiff See Profile :

All it does is attract the local bums who wait for you to unload your items and then take the cart so they can get the quarter. They always get pissed when I bring my own cart back and get my quarter.
Leave it to the bums to find a way to game the system.

(Although I suspect that attracting all the local bums to their parking lot isn't quite what the storeowners had in mind when they spent the money on those carts.)
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said by Mr Neutron See Profile :

Is Pathmark an American store? Or is it a European outfit doing business in the US?

"Pathmark is a supermarket chain headquartered in Montvale, New Jersey. It was founded in 1968 when its parent, Supermarkets General Corporation, pulled out of the ShopRite retailers' cooperative. Pathmark was acquired by Montvale, New Jersey-based The Great Atlantic and Pacific Tea Company ("A&P"), after the acquisition was approved on December 3, 2007"

(modified from Wikipedia)

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And circling back to the original question, a majority of A&P stock is now owned by the Tengelmann Group, the large German retailer. So yes, now it is a European outfit in a sense.
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said by lew_b See Profile :

A local law forces stores to put a device on the cart that chains the cart to the one in front of it. You have to put a quarter in it before the cart can be unlatched from the cart in front of it. This is to get you to return the cart to the corral and not litter the parking lot with carts.
Woe to anyone who dare go shopping without a quarter !
does it take EBT?

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said by lew_b See Profile :
A local law forces stores to put a device on the cart that chains the cart to the one in front of it. You have to put a quarter in it before the cart can be unlatched from the cart in front of it. This is to get you to return the cart to the corral and not litter the parking lot with carts.
Woe to anyone who dare go shopping without a quarter !

They have those over in England too, but it costs a quid (pound coin, worth about $2).

My rant is about those carts that have FOUR rotating wheels. Nothing like pushing your cart forward and having it go sideways! Steering them is nearly impossible with two hands let alone one like the American style.
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Re: [Rant] store shopping carts

I've used those in England. I actually kinda like them. They're more maneuverable. I think it just takes a little practice to "drive" them properly.

It would make moving a cart sideways out of the aisle a lot easier for passing shoppers if we had them here.

Plus they're a lot more fun if you've been out at the pubs on a saturday night and you want to go for a spin in a shopping cart (literally).
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How about a compromise? New carts that you can kick a tab and have the front wheels lock straight or go anywhere.
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said by lew_b See Profile :

A local law forces stores to put a device on the cart that chains the cart to the one in front of it. You have to put a quarter in it before the cart can be unlatched from the cart in front of it. This is to get you to return the cart to the corral and not litter the parking lot with carts.
Woe to anyone who dare go shopping without a quarter !
Interestingly there have been studies done about the similar practice in airports. You know where you pay $2 for a cart and get a $0.50 reward when you return it.

More carts were returned than when they just charged a flat $2 than if they charged you $1.50 with a $0.50 deposit. The theory is that charging $2 to rent the cart and giving nothing in return makes people feel guilty for not returning the cart; but when you give them money back for returning it they see that as a "return charge" and just leave the cart if they don't feel like returning it.

Similar things happened when they looked at charging parents a penalty for being late picking their kids up. When they instituted the charge more people started showing up late.
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Re: [Rant] store shopping carts

said by Combat Chuck See Profile :

said by lew_b See Profile :

A local law forces stores to put a device on the cart that chains the cart to the one in front of it. You have to put a quarter in it before the cart can be unlatched from the cart in front of it. This is to get you to return the cart to the corral and not litter the parking lot with carts.
Woe to anyone who dare go shopping without a quarter !
Interestingly there have been studies done about the similar practice in airports. You know where you pay $2 for a cart and get a $0.50 reward when you return it.

More carts were returned than when they just charged a flat $2 than if they charged you $1.50 with a $0.50 deposit. The theory is that charging $2 to rent the cart and giving nothing in return makes people feel guilty for not returning the cart; but when you give them money back for returning it they see that as a "return charge" and just leave the cart if they don't feel like returning it.

Similar things happened when they looked at charging parents a penalty for being late picking their kids up. When they instituted the charge more people started showing up late.
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said by Combat Chuck See Profile :

Interestingly there have been studies done about the similar practice in airports. You know where you pay $2 for a cart and get a $0.50 reward when you return it.

More carts were returned than when they just charged a flat $2 than if they charged you $1.50 with a $0.50 deposit. The theory is that charging $2 to rent the cart and giving nothing in return makes people feel guilty for not returning the cart; but when you give them money back for returning it they see that as a "return charge" and just leave the cart if they don't feel like returning it.
That's weird...I'll return a cart for the $0.50 but if I've paid the $2 and won't get any back I figure they can use the money to hire somebody to bring it back themselves.

I don't see how people would feel guilty for not returning something they paid for and have no incentive to return.

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said by lew_b See Profile :

A local law forces stores to put a device on the cart that chains the cart to the one in front of it.
When you say "local," is this a town/city thing?

Honestly, I'm having a hard time understanding what all the fuss is about. Most of the stores I go to have the carts that stop at the yellow line. Provided the carts never leave the lot, is it really so hard to deal with them in parking lot?

I'd hate to think this is the kind of thing that town need to pass laws over.
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If I had to put a quarter in a cart for the privilege of shopping at a certain store, I would go elsewhere.

I almost never carry any cash - quarters included - so such a scheme would insure the loss of my business.
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said by wilbilt See Profile :

If I had to put a quarter in a cart for the privilege of shopping at a certain store, I would go elsewhere.

I almost never carry any cash - quarters included - so such a scheme would insure the loss of my business.
Every single grocery store here in Canada uses the "quarter lock" system, and I NEVER have coins on me. However, all I have to do is walk up to the customer service counter inside and ask for a quarter. They always give me one. And when I'm done, I give the cart to a new customer walking in the store.
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said by shaner See Profile :

Every single grocery store here in Canada uses the "quarter lock" system
Maybe out there, but it's pretty uncommon out this way.

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I don't hate the carts. I hate the lazy twits who leave them in the parking lot... IN the parking spaces!

With my previous cars I wouldn't hesitate to just ram them. I kinda like my current vehicle though..

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said by sivran See Profile :

I don't hate the carts. I hate the lazy twits who leave them in the parking lot...
Thoughtful people can help with this by taking a cart in from the parking lot when they arrive at the grocery store, since you're walking in anyway. I always round up a couple of carts on the way in, so on net I help counteract the selfish people who can't be bothered to put things back where they found them.
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Re: [Rant] store shopping carts

I do that too, but I do it with a bit of aggravation toward the lazy pricks who don't think it's their job to put things back where they belong. It's actually gotten BETTER where I live because so many people were complaining about it and the people who didn't put them back were being villified.

Years ago, some a-hole left a cart in a lot (instead of getting off their lazy ass and rolling it to a cart corral) and the wind blew it into my car leaving a nice dent.

Sometimes as I walk back to my car in a lot and see someone do that, I'm inclined to grab the cart and roll it right behind their vehicle so they hit it as they back out. I've never done it, but I've been tempted.
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said by fireflier See Profile :

I've never done it, but I've been tempted.
I have. They're usually on a cell so there's no chance they'll notice.
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I use those straps to attach the seat back to the front of the cart and make it harder for the next overbreeder to fold it out. Hold your applause.

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said by quatrix See Profile :

I use those straps to attach the seat back to the front of the cart and make it harder for the next overbreeder to fold it out. Hold your applause.
So you are the SOB that does this when I am trying to juggle my 2 year old and get out the cart.

Hope that you are not flying back my way next time I am on vacation in Florida. I will more than gladly let my kids kick the back of your seat for 3 hrs!
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having done all the FE tasks at a supermarket i can tell you returning the carts is terrible. people park their cars in front of thst store(for that quick run in) in the fire lanes and many times on the ramp to the sidewalk and as such the doors into the building.

store i worked at kept them inside, our cart team clipped so many bumpers and sideviews of people who blocked the fire lanes and ramps. upside with nobody in the car is nobody had to know.

in spots be extra careful, fire lane is fair game.
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i'm just glad i dont live in a place where the carts are locked up!
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They are not "carts". They are WAGONS. Never call one a cart in Hawaii.

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My rant is with shopping carts in general...They use them to place only one item in the cart, then they leave the cart astray in the parking lot, driving their GMC Yukon with only one person and their one item in it home...across the street.

Laziness..ugh
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said by PhoenixAZ See Profile :

My rant is with shopping carts in general...They use them to place only one item in the cart, then they leave the cart astray in the parking lot, driving their GMC Yukon with only one person and their one item in it home...across the street.

Laziness..ugh
thats my pet peeve. one bag of groceries, CARRY IT[you don't need to take the cart for one bag]
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This is the best cart i've ever seen:

»aussie-emjay.vox.com/library/pos···+wheels/

i've seen them were the wheel in the back locks too. The cart only locks if it leaves a certain area the of the parking lot though.

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I hate these suckers. People bang those things around with the kids in front and are the shopping cart equivalent to a tractor trailer in line. Let those kids walk around the store or something.
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Leaving the kids in the frozen foods coolers slows them down a lot.
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said by fatness See Profile :

Leaving the kids in the frozen foods coolers slows them down a lot.
A Special Ed teacher had a bad moment when she thought she was in a supermarket that did just that:

»www.fullduplex.org/tardblog/ (Blog entry #18; scroll down a bit.)

NB: some naughty language.
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Somebody finally mentioned those awful carts! The damn kids get hold of them and race each other up and down the aisles. Parents don't seem to care. Plus you can't get more than 2 of the suckers into the cart corral.
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as someone who has done their time as a supermarket worker, i can say cart return is the worst. and lots of it is caused by customers and the crap they leave behind in carts like the cart is their personal garbage can.

even worse is the self important luxury car owners who park in the fire lanes preventing speedy return because they block the ramp to the sidewalk meaning carts cant be brought in. though the store i worked at we never cared and just rammed past and nicked a few Escalade bumpers. the owners got told tough luck due to being in the fire lane rofl.
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said by rspsas See Profile :

anyone hate shopping cart designs
I love my shopping cart.




There's also this model for the younger crowd:



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i hate the people that think because they own a BMW they can try and take up two spots. them i do let my door hit if they park so close to me i have to squeeze into my car.
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What I hate is how the wheels are always screwed up. I stock for Target and we have to put the boxes from the truck in them because we can't have pallets out (Guests sue if they trip on them) when you have to push 10-12 alone and half of the carts pull to the right it pisses you off. Only thing that bugs me about carts.
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said by MysticGogeta See Profile :

What I hate is how the wheels are always screwed up. I stock for Target and we have to put the boxes from the truck in them because we can't have pallets out (Guests sue if they trip on them) when you have to push 10-12 alone and half of the carts pull to the right it pisses you off. Only thing that bugs me about carts.
Thats what happens when they're pushed in long trains and all the stores cart guys do that.
the thumping wheel issue is caused by turning long trains of carts.
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Re: [Rant] store shopping carts

said by dvd536 See Profile :

said by MysticGogeta See Profile :

What I hate is how the wheels are always screwed up. I stock for Target and we have to put the boxes from the truck in them because we can't have pallets out (Guests sue if they trip on them) when you have to push 10-12 alone and half of the carts pull to the right it pisses you off. Only thing that bugs me about carts.
Thats what happens when they're pushed in long trains and all the stores cart guys do that.
the thumping wheel issue is caused by turning long trains of carts.
Really? So the stores mess up their own carts? That would explain a lot.

I've always wondered how carts could get so dinged up. But now that you mention it, mashing a whole bunch of them together and then moving them around probably isn't the best way to keep them in like-new working order.
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