patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | reply to Lazlow
Re: They make no sense. Whats downloading? 50% of your limit off peak, or 100% of your limit? Rolling window usage to assign priority levels is fair. If your node is not saturated, you have no reason to care.
What about the person who wants to torrent off peak, but not 24/7? are they to be placed in the same class as the person who torrents off peak 12/7/365?
Rolling window with percentile will separate the HTTS bill payer from the P2Per, without content discrimination.
The less you use, the higher your peak speed will be, and the more bursty it will be. If you want a circuit, your going to get treated like a circuit.
If you don't have a rolling window (much better than a powerboost bucket), how do you separate the user which will release the channel when they get their "task" done (download a 700mb movie via HTTP), vs a user that will NEVER release the channel and can never finish their "task" (a heavy P2P downloader, note most P2Pers eventually finish their downloads, their uploads are unstopable and unfinishable, but some P2Pers have a hoarding mentality and select to download 100s or 1000s of files and everything that shows up in the search, they never keep or watch or use everything they download). |
Lazlow
join:2006-08-07
Saint Louis, MO | The ONLY time that downloading causes congestion is during peak hours. I do 99% of my downloading between 11pm and 8am (off peak here). This causes no congestion and does not cost the ISP anything extra. However I do like to browse (here and other places). Under your formula my browsing would be "throttled" because of my off peak downloading(which is causing a problem for no one). This is why a monthly or even daily download limit does not work. What needs to be done is to only count the usage during peak congestion. I can easily download(off peak ) 500GB+/month without contributing to the congestion while another person can download less than 150GB/month(1hr/night during peak congestion) and cause lots of congestion.
A pure proticol agnostic throttle during peak hours(only) is (in the short term) a good answer(which is what Comcast is using right now). The problem with this system is that there is the risk the ISPs will use it (long term) as an excuse not to upgrade their systems. |
