 IPPlanManHoly Cable Modem Batman
join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
kudos:1 | How about that 250GB Cap, eh? Still got that 250GB cap to deal with....
Or maybe they can not have it count against your cap like the Comcast Digital Voice. |
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| CDV doesn't count against your internet cap because it does not use your internet connection. This probably will count against the cap. |
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 baineschile2600 ways to livePremium
join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI | reply to IPPlanMan
More Options Kudos to cable for at least giving us more options. With the success of YouTube and Hulu, why wouldnt we expect them to try to get in on the action? |
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 CheesePremium
join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
kudos:1 | reply to nokiatech
Re: How about that 250GB Cap, eh? said by nokiatech:CDV doesn't count against your internet cap because it does not use your internet connection. This probably will count against the cap. Which is absolutely stupid, if TW is the one offering the content, it should not count against their caps, I could understand if the content is not being stream from them... |
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| said by Cheese:Which is absolutely stupid, if TW is the one offering the content, it should not count against their caps, I could understand if the content is not being stream from them... If this doesn't count against their cap then the service would be favoring it's content over other companies like Hulu etc. Which would make them a target for Net Neutrality advocates for anti-competitive/monopoly behavior.
The cap should NOT exist in the first place. |
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CheesePremium
join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
kudos:1 | said by LurkerLito:said by Cheese:Which is absolutely stupid, if TW is the one offering the content, it should not count against their caps, I could understand if the content is not being stream from them... If this doesn't count against their cap then the service would be favoring it's content over other companies like Hulu etc. Which would make them a target for Net Neutrality advocates for anti-competitive/monopoly behavior. The cap should NOT exist in the first place. Of course it would favor their content, their pipes/their content, while HULU would work, it would just count against the caps.
And yes, there should be no caps, I agree. |
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IPPlanManHoly Cable Modem Batman
join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
kudos:1 | The fact that we're even discussing the cap means that it's way too low... or shouldn't even exist at all... |
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 RallyBah HumbugPremium
join:2000-10-27
Astoria, NY | or time warner's low cap of 5gb! |
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IPPlanManHoly Cable Modem Batman
join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
kudos:1
1 edit | That's probably 3 Netflix/Apple TV HD movies... |
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 espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
kudos:2
 ·Clear Wireless
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said by Rally:or time warner's low cap of 5gb! ... on the cheapest plan they offered. The caps went to 100GB on the $75 plan. |
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 en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to IPPlanMan
It's barely 1 DVD ISO. |
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RallyBah HumbugPremium
join:2000-10-27
Astoria, NY Reviews:
 ·RoadRunner Cable
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Re: How about that 250GB Cap, eh? There's clearly a huge difference in those type of caps. I guess this is clearly a great pricing point, because the last mile networks of cable co's can only support 5, 15, 25, 100, 250gb caps.
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espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Clear Wireless
| said by Rally:There's clearly a huge difference in those type of caps. I guess this is clearly a great pricing point, because the last mile networks of cable co's can only support 5, 15, 25, 100, 250gb caps. If you want to break it down, a 38mbps DOCSIS channel (ignoring overhead) can transfer a total of 12,312GB/mo, or a total of 17.1GB/hour. Depending on MSO, local usage, and other such factors each downstream channel has 100-1000 modems attached.
It really doesn't matter what your position is on caps, the reality is usage is constrained by capacity which is not necessarily easily augmented. If this were a network built out on cheap commodity Ethernet, it would be a different story. |
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 BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to en102
said by en102:It's barely 1 DVD ISO. even blu-ray maxes out at 50 GB. |
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It is very easily augmented by investing money into the network. Money that both TWC and Comcast have gobs of and make more of every year.
Money that was given to them to the tune of $300 billion over the last 10 years, and that they pocketed. |
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 funchordsHelloPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:5 | reply to espaeth
[BQUOTE=espaethIf you want to break it down, a 38mbps DOCSIS channel (ignoring overhead) can transfer a total of 12,312GB/mo, [/BQUOTE... about 50 x 250 GB. Interesting.
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espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Clear Wireless
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said by sonicmerlin:It is very easily augmented by investing money into the network. Money that both TWC and Comcast have gobs of and make more of every year. That's how percentage-based profits generally work. If you increase your revenue, your dollars of profit also go up.
Comcast's direct costs of network operations were $523 million last year, but as their 10K filing states:
High-speed Internet expenses and phone expenses include certain direct costs identified by us for providing these services. Other related costs associated with providing these services are generally shared among all our cable services and are not allocated to these captions. The decrease in high-speed Internet expenses in 2008 was primarily driven by lower support service costs that were the result of our entering into new contracts with lower cost providers and renegotiating existing contracts. High-speed Internet expenses increased in 2007 primarily due to growth in the number of customers receiving these services and the addition of our newly acquired cable systems. So outside of direct hardware costs for services that are 100% dedicated to HSI service only, you have no way to really determine what their total expenditure was to provide the service.
said by sonicmerlin:Money that was given to them to the tune of $300 billion over the last 10 years, and that they pocketed. Link please? |
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espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Clear Wireless
1 edit | reply to funchords
said by funchords:... about 50 x 250 GB. Interesting. Just like insurance companies, they're playing the safe bet that the majority aren't going to cash in to the limit.
Of course, it gets closer to even odds with a 4 channel DOCSIS 3.0 spread. |
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slime warner and the rest of these hosebags will love it when the unintelligent masses pay the overages they will get after wasting their caps on a few days of watching HD feeds hours per day. |
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