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Re: Is There A Chat Room (Hopefully Flash Based) That Does This?
Must it be web-based? An IRC channel can be configured to require moderator intervention to speak.
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| said by yock  :Must it be web-based? An IRC channel can be configured to require moderator intervention to speak. Clarification:
Thank you for your suggestion, but you are talking about something called pre-moderated chat, or that someone has to read what almost everyone else types before approval and therefore allowing everyone else to see what was said. This wasn't what I had in mind.
What I was talking about, is a chat room where if the room is empty, then only moderators or an administrator will be able to enter the room. Then, as soon as they show up, anyone else will be able to log in, whether they are a moderator, an administrator, or just a regular user.
Suppose the first moderator enters the room. Then the room is open to anyone. Then a second moderator enters. After awhile, the first moderator leaves for whatever reason. Then the room remains open to anyone.
Then suppose that there's a time that there isn't a single moderator in the room. At this point, the room is closed to any new users coming in, unless they are a moderator or higher.
The idea is that theoretically, it could be only moderators in the chat room, but that there will never be a time when there are only regular users in the room. The only time it can be just regular users, is whomever is left when the last moderator leaves. And when this happens, the number of users will eventually dwindle unless another moderator happens to sign in.
Except for this one key difference, the chat room would otherwise behave like most others.
Without using pre-moderated chat (an experience that I'm sure few if any enjoy), what I'm hoping for is to make it so that there has to be at least one moderator in the room.
I'm guessing that this isn't a feature that commonly wanted. However, I'd expect things to get chaotic and go downhill if there isn't at least one moderator in there. Last thing I'd want to hear about is some troll who wanders in, and there's no moderator to get rid of it.
One way around it, I suppose to get around this limitation, is to simply not have a chat room until the associated forum grows to a sufficient size. Then, there would be enough moderators to essentially reduce the chance of what I'm trying to avoid to almost zero. But still, this feature would be a good one to have.
Must It Be Web Based? Yes.
IRC wouldn't work for a couple reasons. One reason is that the typical average Joe or Jane probably don't know what IRC is. And even if they do, they may have trouble figuring out how to get in. Another reason is that you can't integrate IRC with a forum.
The idea is that there will be a forum. Then users will be able to use their forum screen name in the chat room, and use their forum password. That is, forum integration. This isn't possible with IRC. |
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yock
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Fairfield, OH | I don't think you understand IRC, but since it must be web-based the entire point is moot. |
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twizlar
I dont think so.
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| Web Based IRC clients do all the leg work, you just install it on your site and it connects and joins automatically. All you have to do is have a bot set the room to +m when there are no operators in the channel and then no one can talk.
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| said by twizlar :Web Based IRC clients do all the leg work, you just install it on your site and it connects and joins automatically. All you have to do is have a bot set the room to +m when there are no operators in the channel and then no one can talk. I didn't consider a web-based IRC client.
I don't think a bot would necessarily work, but channel operators could +v/-v people as necessary. You'd still need some kind of bot to automatically grant +o to people delegated as moderators though, unless you're going to have a 24/7 sysop.
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I dont think so.
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| Its called Chanserv, or an eggdrop. Eggdrops are more useful as you can tell them to do whatever you want. Basically you can have it -m the channel when an op is present.
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| Except that Eggdrops require that you know TCL to do anything useful. I'm rather familiar with IRC usage, but not with running one. Do IRC daemons often come with a Chanserv-like bot or are they readily available to perform these types of tasks?
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I dont think so.
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Brantford, ON | That functionality is standard to eggdrops, and yes chanserv exists on almost every network.
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