 RallyBah HumbugPremium
join:2000-10-27
Astoria, NY
 ·RoadRunner Cable
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Re: How about that 250GB Cap, eh? There's clearly a huge difference in those type of caps. I guess this is clearly a great pricing point, because the last mile networks of cable co's can only support 5, 15, 25, 100, 250gb caps.
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 espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
kudos:2
 ·Clear Wireless
| said by Rally:There's clearly a huge difference in those type of caps. I guess this is clearly a great pricing point, because the last mile networks of cable co's can only support 5, 15, 25, 100, 250gb caps. If you want to break it down, a 38mbps DOCSIS channel (ignoring overhead) can transfer a total of 12,312GB/mo, or a total of 17.1GB/hour. Depending on MSO, local usage, and other such factors each downstream channel has 100-1000 modems attached.
It really doesn't matter what your position is on caps, the reality is usage is constrained by capacity which is not necessarily easily augmented. If this were a network built out on cheap commodity Ethernet, it would be a different story. |
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| It is very easily augmented by investing money into the network. Money that both TWC and Comcast have gobs of and make more of every year.
Money that was given to them to the tune of $300 billion over the last 10 years, and that they pocketed. |
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 funchordsHelloPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:5 | reply to espaeth
[BQUOTE=espaethIf you want to break it down, a 38mbps DOCSIS channel (ignoring overhead) can transfer a total of 12,312GB/mo, [/BQUOTE... about 50 x 250 GB. Interesting.
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espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Clear Wireless
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said by sonicmerlin:It is very easily augmented by investing money into the network. Money that both TWC and Comcast have gobs of and make more of every year. That's how percentage-based profits generally work. If you increase your revenue, your dollars of profit also go up.
Comcast's direct costs of network operations were $523 million last year, but as their 10K filing states:
High-speed Internet expenses and phone expenses include certain direct costs identified by us for providing these services. Other related costs associated with providing these services are generally shared among all our cable services and are not allocated to these captions. The decrease in high-speed Internet expenses in 2008 was primarily driven by lower support service costs that were the result of our entering into new contracts with lower cost providers and renegotiating existing contracts. High-speed Internet expenses increased in 2007 primarily due to growth in the number of customers receiving these services and the addition of our newly acquired cable systems. So outside of direct hardware costs for services that are 100% dedicated to HSI service only, you have no way to really determine what their total expenditure was to provide the service.
said by sonicmerlin:Money that was given to them to the tune of $300 billion over the last 10 years, and that they pocketed. Link please? |
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espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Clear Wireless
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said by funchords:... about 50 x 250 GB. Interesting. Just like insurance companies, they're playing the safe bet that the majority aren't going to cash in to the limit.
Of course, it gets closer to even odds with a 4 channel DOCSIS 3.0 spread. |
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funchordsHelloPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:5 | Yeah, I'm still trying to digest it. I won't have a snarky comeback, though. It seems sane. |
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1 edit | reply to espaeth
Sure you can. Look at pg. 25, 26 of the .pdf.
Also, seeing as how Comcast is a near monopoly in many of its areas, until real competition exists it's hard to sympathize with a company that makes billions in profits that wants to cap and/or throttle, regardless of the overall % of those margins.
As for links:
»www.newnetworks.com/attbroadband.htm
and...
»www.teletruth.org/docs/SBCMergerharms.pdf |
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