Tzale
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Re: [Mossberg] New Mac Laptops Use Batteries Sealed for Power
said by rex0  :On international flights, even economy class seats have a power outlet these days. A serious question to those who fly overseas often, which airlines are you flying without power? I've had outlets even on the cheapest discount charters. Scandinavian Airlines (SAS)
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Tzale
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said by The Dv8or :said by ArthurS :If your time is soooo important that you need to work through the entire flight, then you will likely be flying business class, which increases your odds of getting seat power. 5-6 hours of battery life for work is plenty for a flight across the pond when you factor in time you will be sleeping and eating, been there, done that too many times. You can try again. That's a hell of an assumption to make, and is often untrue. Many people have shit they got to get done on the plane, but the company doesn't pony up for business class. Such is life in the current economy. The current economy will be over before you know it.
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Titus Pullo
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said by bbarrera :The Apple hating is getting pretty thick in here. What's thick is how the slightest difference of opinion on something is "Apple hating." It's absolutely ludicrous. I own, and use, nothing but Apple computers, but I'm a hater if I voice any opinion on what the company does that isn't tantamount to fawning sycophancy in total and utter agreement with the flock. It's a company. What part of that escapes people?
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N3OGH
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I have a first generation MBP and I am on my second battery.
I spend a lot of time away from the power adaptor, so I tend to burn through charge cycles.
I would prefer a slimier form factor that facilitated a tool free battery replacement. When it comes to the use of my mobile devices I'm a bit of a power user on the mobile front. I take full advantage of tether free computing and communicating.
Even though I practice good battery "hygiene" for lack of a better term, I haven't had a cell phone battery last me more than a year before going in the tank.
My MBP was my first desktop replacement, so I sure as shit mobiled it a LOT. I was glad to be able to replace the battery myself with no tools.
This is the first laptop I've had that was my primary computer for 3+ years and it's still going strong. I plan on cracking it open when Snow Leopard comes out and putting a much fatter HD in.
With the shift towards batteries that aren't user replaceable, looks like I'll be hanging on to my old MBP as long as possible....
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haroldo
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Re: [Mossberg] New Mac Laptops Use Batteries Sealed for Power
[sarcasm]I guess we've come to a conclusion.
People who spend most of their time near a power outlet should consider buying the new sealed battery MacBooks.
People who travel extensively on airplanes without outlets (is that a double negative?) might consider these units, but would need to travel with a spare computer (synchronized with MobileMe) to use in case they run out of power.
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RR Conductor
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One reason for this:Put more money in Apple's Pockets
Hmm, and they say Microsoft is the big, greedy "man"  Apple has good products and is selling a ton of them, things like this will only sour their reputation.
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gar187er
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Re: [Mossberg] New Mac Laptops Use Batteries Sealed for Power
that story is lame, it mentions buying a spare battery...not replacement batteries...so its a completely useless article, cause i doubt they compared the amount of spare vs. replacement numbers..... |
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haroldo
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Re: One reason for this:Put more money in Apple's Pockets
said by RR Conductor :Hmm, and they say Microsoft is the big, greedy "man" Apple has good products and is selling a ton of them, things like this will only sour their reputation. It's absurd to ridicule a company for seeking profit, that is the only reason why they exist.
Innovation is an integral part of all business decision. Some are good, some aren't, the consumer gets to decide. If enough people like the product change, it will become the norm, if not, it will fade away.
I have a great idea...for all those that are opposed to laptops with sealed batteries...don't buy one.
There are plenty of laptops for sale that have replacable batteries.
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jram
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Hmm, and they say Microsoft is the big, greedy "man" Apple has good products and is selling a ton of them, things like this will only sour their reputation.
This will catch on fast, nothing wrong with sealed batteries. I get over 7 hours on a charge without even trying. Most users don't buy a spare battery. To replace the battery where I live , you call for an appointment, it cost 159 plus tax, you can wait. I rather pay that than have to fool with a spare battery that I wouldn't purchase anyway. As you will see most will follow Apple. My old PB still has the same battery after 1500 cycles so..... |
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Eldon
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said by RR Conductor :Hmm, and they say Microsoft is the big, greedy "man" Apple has good products and is selling a ton of them, things like this will only sour their reputation. You would think that Apple would have learned from the past when they were foolish enough to adopt that new-fangled "USB" for keyboards and mice and started shipping computers without floppy drives.. oh the uproar those things caused. |
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Re: [Mossberg] New Mac Laptops Use Batteries Sealed for Power
said by r81984 :It lasted just as long as the original battery. Someone already showed you that buying an original battery for a Mac is the same price, or even cheaper, than buying a battery for a PC. Then you turn to eBay to show how cheap PC batteries are? Really? Did you not think that you can also get really cheap Mac batteries on eBay too?
Hey, look at that, a Mac battery that falls within your $50 to $80 price range. Yet again, Apple actually isn't overpriced.
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said by haroldo :.or maybe people might sleep, watch a movie, listen to music, talk with a companion or stranger, eat, walk around, read a book or try to join that avaition (Mile High) club . You must be flying in private jets or something. For those of us back in steerage on commercial jets, the plane's entertainment system typically doesn't work or has a horrible buzz. There's little enough room that even a short guy like me is too cramped to sleep. There's only so long a book lasts. And the mile-high club is purest fantasy. |
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haroldo
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Re: [Mossberg] New Mac Laptops Use Batteries Sealed for Power
said by russotto :...And the mile-high club is purest fantasy... I'm a member! Not sure, but does it count if I was alone at the time?  |
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Rexter
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Re: [Mossberg] New Mac Laptops Use Batteries Sealed for Power
Well, I guess I'm part of the 5%. I generally get more than 3 years out of a laptop, but never so long out of a battery.
Perhaps I'm a minority, but I would not purchase a laptop that I cannot replace the battery on, especially not a higher end laptop.
Just my two cents..... Thumbs down!
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GlobalMind
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I think it comes down more to what some mfgs want to (dare I say) force onto the consumers vs the consumer saying "hey I want an embedded battery". For one it keeps you coming back for a new machine when that internal battery won't charge, or you get to send it in for "repair" to get a new one installed, assuming it can be.
For smaller devices I can see it, the iPod (not iPhone mind you, think phone batts should be removable), the Netbooks those types of things.
Someone mentioned better performance, and I really don't see that as a factor or IMHO even being the truth in either battery life or system performance.
The other part is those of us who would do any work on a system prefer to have ALL power sources cut from the device. That means the battery gets removed anytime any work on the guts of the machine are performed.
And flying an airline with seat power isn't always available although that's changing.
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I have three hi-cap batteries for my Dell Inspiron 1525 and I swap them out regularly (ie: every 3 hours) while at work. |
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