Rob
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| Microsoft says Vista buyers to get free Windows 7 quote:
Microsoft Corp. said Thursday that prices for the Windows 7 computer operating system are largely in line with those for Vista, and that people who buy PCs before the new system goes on sale in October will get free upgrades.
To drum up demand among people who aren't in the market for a new PC, Microsoft also said it is taking limited pre-orders for Windows 7, selling some for as little as $50.
»www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art···991NCD01
I am not sure how many people agree with me, but I see Vista as the "Windows Me" of operating systems. Windows 7 is 10x better than Vista.
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| Re: Microsoft says Vista buyers to get free Windows 7 So what if I bought a computer 4 months ago with Vista already installed?
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I am not sure how many people agree with me, but I see Vista as the "Windows Me" of operating systems. Windows 7 is 10x better than Vista.
Not going to go there, but I also haven't tried Win 7 yet. | |
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| Good article. It has the pricing info for regular users too.
Upgrade:
Home Premium = $120
Professional and Ultimate = $200
Full Versions:
Home Premium = $200
Professional = $300
Ultimate = $320
If you pre-order, you can get your Home Professional upgrade for $50 or your Ultimate upgrade for $100.
Overall, I think those are great price points, especially with the pre-order promotion. | |
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| Re: Microsoft says Vista buyers to get free Windows 7 said by Matt  :Overall, I think those are great price points, especially with the pre-order promotion. Price points? You mean "prices"? | |
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| Re: Microsoft says Vista buyers to get free Windows 7 said by ThaDark1 :Ok so I have a question. Say I'm running the Win7 RC right now. Could I just use the upgrade copy and just "upgrade" my Win7 RC so that I don't have to start from scratch? I just hate to get my system configured where I want it and then have to start over again. Yeah that does suck but for some strange reason I find it fun lol. Most of the time I hate doing it though. | |
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Tsume
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Johnson City, TN
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| said by ThaDark1 :Ok so I have a question. Say I'm running the Win7 RC right now. Could I just use the upgrade copy and just "upgrade" my Win7 RC so that I don't have to start from scratch? I just hate to get my system configured where I want it and then have to start over again. And Matt the pre-order is actually Home Premium for $49 and Professional for $99. No mention of an Ultimate pre-order price. » news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10272···esArea.1 You could, but if I learned anything by upgrading the beta to RC and all the problems that happened afterward you need to reformat to do it the right way. Microsoft themselves said you should not be upgrading software that is not final release.
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| Pardon my ignorance, but what happens if you upgrade from Vista to Win7? Do you lose all of the software that you already have loaded on your computer, does it just wipe everything clean, or what? Why should Vista users upgrade - what is better about Win7? | |
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| Re: Microsoft says Vista buyers to get free Windows 7 said by DownTheShore :Pardon my ignorance, but what happens if you upgrade from Vista to Win7? Do you lose all of the software that you already have loaded on your computer, does it just wipe everything clean, or what? Why should Vista users upgrade - what is better about Win7? No, the upgrade will keep all your programs.
The latter part of your question has been beaten to death in this forum, a search should turn up several threads on the topic with opinions both pro-Windows 7 and pro-Vista. Here are a couple to get you started:
»I'm sold, Windows 7 is wonderful. What will Windows 7 cost?
»[WIN7] Share Your Win 7 RC Upgrade or Clean Install Experiences | |
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| said by DownTheShore :Pardon my ignorance, but what happens if you upgrade from Vista to Win7? Do you lose all of the software that you already have loaded on your computer, does it just wipe everything clean, or what? Why should Vista users upgrade - what is better about Win7? If you do an *upgrade* then yes your files and programs should stay intact. You can get the upgrade version and choose to do a fresh install though. There are some cases where an upgrade won't be possible. Moving from x86 to x64 is an example or vice-versa. But since Win 7 isn't completely finished, Microsoft could potentially require a clean install but I see no reason for them to do so - it would be just plain dumb on their part. | |
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| said by DownTheShore :Pardon my ignorance, but what happens if you upgrade from Vista to Win7? Do you lose all of the software that you already have loaded on your computer, does it just wipe everything clean, or what? Why should Vista users upgrade - what is better about Win7? My understanding is that upgrading from Win XP requires a clean install (wipe and reload). PCs with Vista can do an in-plaec upgrade. | |
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1 edit | Please explain why? And do you know that all W7 is, is a Service Pack of Vista. When Vista came out, people could not wait, but after they saw that it would not run on their archaic machines, then they decided what you are stating, which is incorrect.
As for W7, MS is attempting to regain a marketplace that they are loosing to those staying with XP, Vista, have chosen to switch to Apple, or trying Linux. MS is hemorrhaging, and does not know what to do, so they re badge a server edition as a desktop edition, and try to shoot themselves in the foot. They also shot themselves in the foot with the redesigning of MS office.
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| Re: Microsoft says Vista buyers to get free Windows 7 said by Greg_Z :Please explain why? And do you know that all W7 is, is a Service Pack of Vista. When Vista came out, people could not wait, but after they saw that it would not run on their archaic machines, then they decided what you are stating, which is incorrect. As for W7, MS is attempting to regain a marketplace that they are loosing to those staying with XP, Vista, have chosen to switch to Apple, or trying Linux. MS is hemorrhaging, and does not know what to do, so they re badge a server edition as a desktop edition, and try to shoot themselves in the foot. They also shot themselves in the foot with the redesigning of MS office. Eh I would disagree. I have been running Vista Ultimate x64 for awhile and it was alright. Nothing special. Nothing bad. But I am now running Win7 Ultimate x64 and my comp runs so much better. Multiple programs load much faster, run smoother, just a good experience overall. | |
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Springfield, IL | Re: Microsoft says Vista buyers to get free Windows 7 The thing is, there still are not any vendors writing for 64bit code, same with MS for MS Office.
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| said by Greg_Z :Please explain why? And do you know that all W7 is, is a Service Pack of Vista. When Vista came out, people could not wait, but after they saw that it would not run on their archaic machines, then they decided what you are stating, which is incorrect. As for W7, MS is attempting to regain a marketplace that they are loosing to those staying with XP, Vista, have chosen to switch to Apple, or trying Linux. MS is hemorrhaging, and does not know what to do, so they re badge a server edition as a desktop edition, and try to shoot themselves in the foot. They also shot themselves in the foot with the redesigning of MS office. Office 2007 is great in my opinion and you're completely over-exaggerating Microsoft's losses. When you see businesses switching to Apple or Linux then you can say they're at a hemorrhaging point, but that's not even close to the case. | |
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| Re: Microsoft says Vista buyers to get free Windows 7 said by Phil :Office 2007 is great in my opinion and you're completely over-exaggerating Microsoft's losses. When you see businesses switching to Apple or Linux then you can say they're at a hemorrhaging point, but that's not even close to the case. I agree Phil. Businesses are not switching to Linux or Mac and MS isn't hemorrhaging. They are a victim of the worst recession since they have been in business, which was followed by an operating system (Vista) that an extremely large majority of the business world skipped. | |
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2 edits | 1) Can the Upgrade versions be used for a "clean' install? This was possible with Vista and XP as I recall
2) Is Vista HP eligible for the Win 7 Pro upgrade? or only for the Win 7 HP upgrade?
3) Is Vista Ulitimate eligible for the Win 7 Pro upgrade? What about upgrade to Win 7 Ultimate? | |
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| Re: Microsoft says Vista buyers to get free Windows 7 said by kringles :1) Can the Upgrade versions be used for a "clean' install? This was possible with Vista and XP as I recall It was with XP. With Vista it was a big PITA- you have to do a clean install of Vista, then rerun the install in upgrade mode.
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Koil
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1 edit | Re: Microsoft says Vista buyers to get free Windows 7 said by mazhurg :said by kringles :1) Can the Upgrade versions be used for a "clean' install? This was possible with Vista and XP as I recall Did a quick look, and so far I have not yet found an answer to this question. One can upgrade from a existing instalation, but otherwise it looks like we may have to go through hoops similar to the vista upgrade(s) to do a clean install. I, too, would like to know this, as I don't have Vista, so I would be (hoping I can) update from XP to W7.
Anyone know if this is possible, or will it have to be from Vista -> W7?
I really hope so, as I have been running W7RC and just love it...Potentially better than XP, I believe and that has been there best ever, imo. | |
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Lancaster, OH
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| Re: Microsoft says Vista buyers to get free Windows 7 said by Koil :said by mazhurg :said by kringles :1) Can the Upgrade versions be used for a "clean' install? This was possible with Vista and XP as I recall Did a quick look, and so far I have not yet found an answer to this question. One can upgrade from a existing instalation, but otherwise it looks like we may have to go through hoops similar to the vista upgrade(s) to do a clean install. I, too, would like to know this, as I don't have Vista, so I would be (hoping I can) update from XP to W7. Anyone know if this is possible, or will it have to be from Vista -> W7? I really hope so, as I have been running W7RC and just love it...Potentially better than XP, I believe and that has been there best ever, imo. From ars technica:
"Windows XP users need to know that regardless of which edition they currently have installed (Windows XP Home, Windows XP Professional, or Windows XP Media Center Edition) and regardless of which edition of Windows 7 they are moving to (Home Premium, Professional , or Ultimate), they will need to perform a clean install, whether they buy the upgrade or full version."
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clubs: | Re: Microsoft says Vista buyers to get free Windows 7 Ok, thank you so much for that...so, a clean install means a nuke & pave, install XP and then upgrade to W7?
Sorry for the seemingly dumb questions, but I've always just purchsed full versions before, never gone the upgrade route. | |
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Microsoft Corp. said Thursday that prices for the Windows 7 computer operating system are largely in line with those for Vista, and that people who buy PCs before the new system goes on sale in October will get free upgrades.
To drum up demand among people who aren't in the market for a new PC, Microsoft also said it is taking limited pre-orders for Windows 7, selling some for as little as $50.
» www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art···991NCD01I am not sure how many people agree with me, but I see Vista as the "Windows Me" of operating systems. Windows 7 is 10x better than Vista. Windows Vista is nowhere near ME was
Vista is a very good OS Windows 7 is pretty much the same as Vista. | |
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That sucks. I guess I should have waited a few days to get my new Vista Home Premium PC. | |
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BoToMaTiC
join:2003-10-29
Louisville, KY
| Re: Microsoft says Vista buyers to get free Windows 7 Question
I got Windows Vista Home Premium 32-Bit from Acer during that Windows Upgrade Program. I was thinking about pre-ordering Windows 7 Home Premium tomorrow for this computer to replace Windows Vista Home Premium. Now $50 bucks is a okay deal but how will this work. When I pre-order it tomorrow, can I get the 64-Bit version of Windows 7 Home Premium and then do a clean install since I have a 64-Bit CPU or am I stuck at just getting the 32-Bit version of Windows 7 Home Premium?
When I received the Acer Windows Upgrade Disc, it allowed me to do clean install and everything so can I format even with a 32-Bit version of Windows 7 Home Premium or will it have to be installed while in Windows Vista. | |
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Logan 5
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| Re: Microsoft says Vista buyers to get free Windows 7said by BoToMaTiC :Question I got Windows Vista Home Premium 32-Bit from Acer during that Windows Upgrade Program. I was thinking about pre-ordering Windows 7 Home Premium tomorrow for this computer to replace Windows Vista Home Premium. Now $50 bucks is a okay deal but how will this work. When I pre-order it tomorrow, can I get the 64-Bit version of Windows 7 Home Premium and then do a clean install since I have a 64-Bit CPU or am I stuck at just getting the 32-Bit version of Windows 7 Home Premium? When I received the Acer Windows Upgrade Disc, it allowed me to do clean install and everything so can I format even with a 32-Bit version of Windows 7 Home Premium or will it have to be installed while in Windows Vista. Why not go directly to the source and ask Acer? They should already have a plan in place for offering versions of Win 7 for their hardware.
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ASPIRE PHONE NUMBER: (800) 910-2237
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Logan 5
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2 edits | Re: Microsoft says Vista buyers to get free Windows 7 said by Frydays :whats the link to preorder windows 7 ? From the google link in the OP's initial post:
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People can buy the software on Microsoft's download site or at retailers including Best Buy Co. Inc., which said it is limiting sales to three per customer.
And, for the google challenged since there's no direct download link to Microsoft's site from the OP's article and to save people the hassle of having to go to Best Buy, here you go: »www.microsoft.com/windows/buy/of···der.aspx
No mention of Ultimate anywhere to be found at the link above though.....
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| Re: Microsoft says Vista buyers to get free Windows 7 said by Logan 5 :No mention of Ultimate anywhere to be found at the link above though..... It says "Windows 7" will be offered at 50% off. I think citing Home Premium and Professional was simply for illustrative purposes. I guess we'll all find out. | |
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Logan 5
Wondering what happens next..
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The WasteLAN
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| Looks like the MS site is getting hammered.... I had to refresh like 6 or 7 times before the error in my screenshot went away and their normal page view came back.... | |
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mikedz4
join:2003-04-14
Weirton, WV | this upgrade doesn't start until the 26th which is tomorrow.
Here is my question though. What happens if I decide to wipe my hard drive clean and install windows 7 will i have to buy the full version of can i use the upgrade? | |
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howie
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| Am I missing something or are all Ultimate users being screwed out of a special price for 7 Ultimate via the "Pre-Order Special"? If so, that sucks big time!  | |
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mikedz4
join:2003-04-14
Weirton, WV | i ran the upgrade advisor and it told me I can ONLY upgrade to home premium or ultimate NOT professional. For professional I need to perform a clean install. I guess this means I gotta plunk down $200 for professional since that will be my choice? | |
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urbanriot
join:2004-10-18
St Catharines, ON
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| said by Rob : I am not sure how many people agree with me, but I see Vista as the "Windows Me" of operating systems. Windows 7 is 10x better than Vista. 10x!? Windows 7 is Windows Vista.
The kernel's the same, the drivers are the same, the OS itself fundamentally functions the same. They've gussied it up a bit, tweaked it a little, took out my sidebar, but it's the same OS. I've upgraded to every new W7 build since RC, and we sell Vista on every system, and they're so similar I don't bother telling people to wait to buy W7 on a new system. | |
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howie
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| My Vista is fast, never crashes and is a pleasure to use. I'll agree that it went through a lot of "growing pains" with drivers and program compatibility, but in it's present form, on a reasonably fast PC, it's a perfectly capable and rock-solid OS. If it is indeed "Me2", then I'm a proud Me2 user!  | |
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howie
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join:2003-04-08
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Matt
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| Re: Microsoft says Vista buyers to get free Windows 7 said by howie :I might end up getting the $49 Home Premium pre-order upgrade deall as I have a valid Home Premium license as well as Ultimate. That seems like a decent deal. I've been thinking about that too since my laptop came with Vista Home Premium. It's a heck of a deal. I'm just worried about my hybrid SLI driver. The Vista driver "works" but eventually hard-locks Windows 7. Since it's managed by Dell, not nVidia, I can't use the standard reference nVidia driver.
I'd be fine with ordering it and waiting on a Dell driver though. I'm perfectly happy with Vista x64 SP2 on my laptop. | |
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howie
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| Re: Microsoft says Vista buyers to get free Windows 7 Yeah, 49 bucks seems almost too good to pass up. I may dual boot Vista (running issue-free) and install 7 on another partition and work out any bugs I've seen with the beta/rc versions. I love a challenge. | |
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taytong888
join:2005-06-20
Nepean, ON | What about XP owners who wish to "upgrade" to Windows 7, i.e. bypassing Vista altogether? Will we get similar deals? Secondly, can I use a Win7 Pro upgrade version to upgrade my current XP Home or XP Pro editions? | |
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