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Re: Microsoft says Vista buyers to get free Windows 7
said by BoToMaTiC  :Question I got Windows Vista Home Premium 32-Bit from Acer during that Windows Upgrade Program. I was thinking about pre-ordering Windows 7 Home Premium tomorrow for this computer to replace Windows Vista Home Premium. Now $50 bucks is a okay deal but how will this work. When I pre-order it tomorrow, can I get the 64-Bit version of Windows 7 Home Premium and then do a clean install since I have a 64-Bit CPU or am I stuck at just getting the 32-Bit version of Windows 7 Home Premium? When I received the Acer Windows Upgrade Disc, it allowed me to do clean install and everything so can I format even with a 32-Bit version of Windows 7 Home Premium or will it have to be installed while in Windows Vista. Why not go directly to the source and ask Acer? They should already have a plan in place for offering versions of Win 7 for their hardware.
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Frydays
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whats the link to preorder windows 7 ? |
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Logan 5
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2 edits | said by Frydays :whats the link to preorder windows 7 ? From the google link in the OP's initial post:
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People can buy the software on Microsoft's download site or at retailers including Best Buy Co. Inc., which said it is limiting sales to three per customer.
And, for the google challenged since there's no direct download link to Microsoft's site from the OP's article and to save people the hassle of having to go to Best Buy, here you go: »www.microsoft.com/windows/buy/of···der.aspx
No mention of Ultimate anywhere to be found at the link above though.....
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| said by Logan 5 :No mention of Ultimate anywhere to be found at the link above though..... It says "Windows 7" will be offered at 50% off. I think citing Home Premium and Professional was simply for illustrative purposes. I guess we'll all find out. |
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Logan 5
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Looks like the MS site is getting hammered.... I had to refresh like 6 or 7 times before the error in my screenshot went away and their normal page view came back.... |
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said by mazhurg :said by kringles :1) Can the Upgrade versions be used for a "clean' install? This was possible with Vista and XP as I recall Did a quick look, and so far I have not yet found an answer to this question. One can upgrade from a existing instalation, but otherwise it looks like we may have to go through hoops similar to the vista upgrade(s) to do a clean install. I, too, would like to know this, as I don't have Vista, so I would be (hoping I can) update from XP to W7.
Anyone know if this is possible, or will it have to be from Vista -> W7?
I really hope so, as I have been running W7RC and just love it...Potentially better than XP, I believe and that has been there best ever, imo. |
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mikedz4
join:2003-04-14
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this upgrade doesn't start until the 26th which is tomorrow.
Here is my question though. What happens if I decide to wipe my hard drive clean and install windows 7 will i have to buy the full version of can i use the upgrade? |
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howie
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Am I missing something or are all Ultimate users being screwed out of a special price for 7 Ultimate via the "Pre-Order Special"? If so, that sucks big time!  |
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said by Koil :said by mazhurg :said by kringles :1) Can the Upgrade versions be used for a "clean' install? This was possible with Vista and XP as I recall Did a quick look, and so far I have not yet found an answer to this question. One can upgrade from a existing instalation, but otherwise it looks like we may have to go through hoops similar to the vista upgrade(s) to do a clean install. I, too, would like to know this, as I don't have Vista, so I would be (hoping I can) update from XP to W7. Anyone know if this is possible, or will it have to be from Vista -> W7? I really hope so, as I have been running W7RC and just love it...Potentially better than XP, I believe and that has been there best ever, imo. From ars technica:
"Windows XP users need to know that regardless of which edition they currently have installed (Windows XP Home, Windows XP Professional, or Windows XP Media Center Edition) and regardless of which edition of Windows 7 they are moving to (Home Premium, Professional , or Ultimate), they will need to perform a clean install, whether they buy the upgrade or full version."
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clubs: | Ok, thank you so much for that...so, a clean install means a nuke & pave, install XP and then upgrade to W7?
Sorry for the seemingly dumb questions, but I've always just purchsed full versions before, never gone the upgrade route. |
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mikedz4
join:2003-04-14
Weirton, WV | reply to Rob
i ran the upgrade advisor and it told me I can ONLY upgrade to home premium or ultimate NOT professional. For professional I need to perform a clean install. I guess this means I gotta plunk down $200 for professional since that will be my choice? |
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Frydays
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thanks for the link |
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urbanriot
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said by Rob : I am not sure how many people agree with me, but I see Vista as the "Windows Me" of operating systems. Windows 7 is 10x better than Vista. 10x!? Windows 7 is Windows Vista.
The kernel's the same, the drivers are the same, the OS itself fundamentally functions the same. They've gussied it up a bit, tweaked it a little, took out my sidebar, but it's the same OS. I've upgraded to every new W7 build since RC, and we sell Vista on every system, and they're so similar I don't bother telling people to wait to buy W7 on a new system. |
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| said by urbanriot :The kernel's the same, the drivers are the same, the OS itself fundamentally functions the same. They've gussied it up a bit, tweaked it a little, took out my sidebar, but it's the same OS. I've upgraded to every new W7 build since RC, and we sell Vista on every system, and they're so similar I don't bother telling people to wait to buy W7 on a new system. No, they are not and the drivers are not the same. Vista video drivers for example are only WDDM 1.0, not WDDM 1.1 ... there are significant differences. Additionally, the kernel is not identical. Similar yes, but not identical.
Please don't take this personally, but I wish people would stop spreading this falsehood. It's one thing to say they are not different enough to warrant an upgrade or to say the upgrade should be free, but they are not even similar enough for it to be a service pack upgrade. |
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My Vista is fast, never crashes and is a pleasure to use. I'll agree that it went through a lot of "growing pains" with drivers and program compatibility, but in it's present form, on a reasonably fast PC, it's a perfectly capable and rock-solid OS. If it is indeed "Me2", then I'm a proud Me2 user!  |
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1 edit | reply to Matt
I don't take it personally, you're incorrect about the kernel. The kernel is directly based off the Vista 2k8 kernel, which is also what the Vista kernel is based off of. At one point, you could have identical kernel versions with various updates / patches.
Windows 7 kernel = Windows Vista kernel.
Microsoft politically evades the question every time they're asked by stating that the Windows 7 kernel is based off the latest Windows 2008 kernel. If pressed, they'll admit the Windows Vista kernel is also based off the Windows 2008 kernel.
I can point you to some interviews and technical white papers if you're interested in reading more.
Edit: You could argue the kernel in Windows 7 will be newer than Windows Vista SP2 since it came out later, but that will most likely be patched with a later service pack to bring it inline with the latest Windows 2008 kernel version. According to various documentations, all kernel versions will be kept inline until they drop support to Windows Vista. |
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Don't forget that these prices refer to the full retail version.
You will likely be able to buy an OEM of Windows 7 Home Premium for ~$100 as you can for Vista right now.
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said by urbanriot :I don't take it personally, you're incorrect about the kernel. The kernel is directly based off the Vista 2k8 kernel, which is also what the Vista kernel is based off of. At one point, you could have identical kernel versions with various updates / patches. Windows 7 kernel = Windows Vista kernel. Vista Service Pack 2 = Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6002]
Windows 7 RC Build 7100 = Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7100]
Directly based off of is not identical. I believe I agreed they were similar, but they are not by any defintion of the word "identical."
Windows 7 is an evolutionary step from Vista and introduces significant changes to the kernel as well as almost every aspect of the OS. Just because the layout of the GUI is similar and a few select drivers "work" from Vista to Windows 7, doesn't mean they are identical. |
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urbanriot
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St Catharines, ON | I'm basing my comments from interviews with Microsoft personnel, official Microsoft programming blogs and industry analysts. Microsoft has said in very clear terms that Windows 7 does not contain a new kernel. |
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| said by urbanriot :I'm basing my comments from interviews with Microsoft personnel, official Microsoft programming blogs and industry analysts. Microsoft has said in very clear terms that Windows 7 does not contain a new kernel. You're wandering from the original assertion that they were identical. Similar, yes, but not identical. |
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