submrge
join:2004-10-10
Mine Hill, NJ
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Re: Ultra users please read regarding d/l speeds.
said by Eat Me  The problem is that you are paying for 101+.
With that $300 activation fee on top of the monthly they'd better deliver close to advertised speeds.
It's a service without an SLA, what do you expect? |
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Tradewind
CV Noi Ka Oi
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join:2005-11-08
Marlboro, NJ | reply to Tradewind
KISS  |
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mforrest73
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join:2005-12-26
Norwalk, CT | reply to RARPSL
You could start by figuring out whether you're talking about bits or bytes... |
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RARPSL
join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY
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said by mforrest73 :If you don't what you're talking about, then you really shouldn't post. It's not helping anybody and it's confusing people who don't know better. How is what I posted inaccurate? I would appreciate knowing so I can not post what you claim to be inaccurate information in the future. I assume that, unlike me, you do not actually work with Ethernet Connections and thus can not speak from experience. |
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mforrest73
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Norwalk, CT | reply to RARPSL
If you don't what you're talking about, then you really shouldn't post. It's not helping anybody and it's confusing people who don't know better. |
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RARPSL
join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY
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said by fcisler :As far as a losing one megabit if you get static IP. Are you serious? OOL fully discloses it. It's ONE MEGABIT. Do you have any idea how much more it would be to provide a gigabit router to gain ONE MEGABIT? It is much more than just one megabit. A 100 Port can handle 100Mbs. If you connect a 1000 Port on the Modem to a 100 Port on a router or computer, it acts as a 100 Port. Thus the most it can handle is 100Mbs. There is the issue that the connection is thus a 100Mbs Ethernet Connection. Ethernet has an overhead of 42 bits per packet. Thus assuming that the modem is passing the standard 1500 bit TCP/IP packets, they flow over the Ethernet as 1542 bit Ethernet Packets. This means that the 100 Mbs Ethernet Flow is 1500/1542 percent TCP/IP and the rest Ethernet Packet Header Overhead for about 97.27Mbs. This is the MOST that you can get if the link between the Modem and the Router/Computer is 100% efficient. If the links are 1000Mbs/Gigabit then the modem can be handling 100Mbs and the Ethernet Overhead does not matter since the TCP/IP flow is 100Mbs with the Ethernet Overhead using some of the remaining 900Mbs that is available with a Gigabit Ethernet Link. There is also the issue that a Router with 100 Ports may not be able to handle the 97.27Mbs flow and thus may throttle the connection more. The processing that it is doing may affect its forwarding of the packets thus reducing its pass-through rate. |
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jaa
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join:2000-06-13
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That is why I think CV field techs should come with a laptop and connect directly to their modem and run a speed test. That is the easiest way to determine if it is a CV problem, or a customer equipment problem.
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Tradewind
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Since it has been a long time since I had a new computer I splurged and got an i7 920 Quad Duo, overclocked of course.
I am coming from an ancient P4 3.2Ghz, DDR400 machine. Using Windows 7 Ultimate x64.
New machine comes with an onboard Realtek 1Gb LAN. To the point, my d/l speeds are now consistently in the 100 range, u/l 15+. Even when using Usenet I max out and I have even seen 13+MBps downstream.
I no longer have the 75 d/l speeds I was getting at times on my old machine.
Maybe food for thought for those of you with less then stellar speeds.
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johnnyboy24
join:2002-04-07
Bayonne, NJ
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Currently this is what I am getting.
IMHO, speedtest and some other tests are not "real life" tests. Also, a lot of servers either have there BW throttled, or only connect at a 100mbps connection. They may have GigE NICs, but the switches they are connected to are usually 10/100 based. Some DCs are connected with GigE, even 10 GigE, but to save money the GigE is usually between switches, not servers.
I am not saying that if you get a low speed you shouldn't complain, heck I would. I am just saying that there are quite a few variables that would determine the current speed. Sometimes it can't be helped, other times it can.
That upload test for example...I know its off, cause I download a test file from work and I easily get 15+ mbps. |
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tmm4264
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Haskell, NJ
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said by Eat Me :The problem is that you are paying for 101+. With that $300 activation fee on top of the monthly they'd better deliver close to advertised speeds. Actually you're not. It's up to 100.
Every time I call Cablevision and discuss bandwidth they state that there are no guarantees. With this service you don't get a bandwidth SLA. It can variable and comes without guarantee. If you had an OC-3 which comes with a bandwidth SLA, you'd get 155 all the time with very little variance.
Of course you'll pay between $20K-$45K for an OC-3. |
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psilocybin
join:2007-07-19
Monroe, NY | reply to OTL
Backup/Restore, Usenet and very popular torrents. I've seen 9MB/sec on various torrents. |
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OTL
join:2007-08-10
Stamford, CT
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I simply find it hard to believe that when receiving download speed in excess of 5MB or so there is any real, tangible GAS factor.
5MB/sec is fuggin' SCREAMING! I'd really like to know what games, applications or whatever folks are running out there can't survive with a 5MB data rate.
Please enlighten me/us. Thanks in advance.
Mike B. |
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mforrest73
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join:2005-12-26
Norwalk, CT | reply to Tradewind
I've always had a DHCP reservation for this PC for other reasons, but I'm not sure why that would make a difference...But hey, if it works... |
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Tradewind
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said by mforrest73 :I've noticed the 75mbps thing on speed tests a couple of times.. At somebody's suggestion here (I can't find the thread) I tried disabling and reenabling my network adapter in Windows. Immediately after that the results jumped up to 99+. I'm running the Windows 7 RC and as far as I know I have the tcp stack set to its default settings. Either way, when downloading with multiple connections simultaneously I haven't seen any slowness at all so far and resetting the adapter doesn't change anything. Download speeds are typically in the 11.2-11.6MB/s range. Funny you should mention this. On every startup of Windows (I'm using W7) I could only get about 75 down. This includes downloading the test file from ool's ftp site.
Up until now the only way to 'jumpstart' my download speed was to change any LAN adapter setting in Dev Mgr. Didn't make a difference which one. My guess it was a reset of sorts that got things going.
After this my speeds maxed out. btw... My slow speeds in my original post were after I did this. A totally different story.
Anyways, on a hunch from reading some posts I did a DHCP Reservation for my IP in my router dir-655 Dlink. BINGO! Windows 7 starts up with full download speed.
On the surface you would never think doing a reservation could fix my speeds at startup but it sure enough did.
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mforrest73
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join:2005-12-26
Norwalk, CT
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I've noticed the 75mbps thing on speed tests a couple of times.. At somebody's suggestion here (I can't find the thread) I tried disabling and reenabling my network adapter in Windows. Immediately after that the results jumped up to 99+. I'm running the Windows 7 RC and as far as I know I have the tcp stack set to its default settings.
Either way, when downloading with multiple connections simultaneously I haven't seen any slowness at all so far and resetting the adapter doesn't change anything. Download speeds are typically in the 11.2-11.6MB/s range. |
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Tradewind
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I thank those who gave me useful information. As for those few trolls that added nothing to MY post I give you... nothing.
So sad to see this forum go down the tubes as far as providing help from one ool user to another.
I remember the days of GeekNJ, very helpful chap, who unfortunately was swayed to the dark side (FIOS).
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frdrizzt
join:2008-05-03
Farmingville, NY
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said by Eat Me :The problem is that you are paying for 101+. Actually, you're paying for "up to 101".
said by jakefuzzy :First of all, releasing a product, Ultra, and knowing that the static IP router you are installing with the service in NOT adequate, is wrong. The Cisco 851 is a 10/100Mb router not a Gigabit router. Would you prefer they offer it to everyone but static IP customers, saying "I'm sorry, but since we can't yet offer you ultra speeds, you are not allowed to upgrade higher than boost"? Because they should have made it very clear you would be getting reduced speeds before you signed up. I'd be concerned if they didn't. |
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Thinkdiff
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join:2001-08-07
Bronx, NY
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said by fcisler :As far as a losing one megabit if you get static IP. Are you serious? OOL fully discloses it. It's ONE MEGABIT. Do you have any idea how much more it would be to provide a gigabit router to gain ONE MEGABIT? Speeds through the Static IP router max out at ~70Mbps, not 100.
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fcisler
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join:2004-06-14
Riverhead, NY
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Are you kidding me? You CANNOT SEE any difference - whatsoever - when streaming a video if your speeds are 70 instead of 100. Give me a break.
Unless you have these videos on a server with at least a gigabit connection and it's DEDICATED to you then your full of it. Not trying to flame here but it's the truth.
And where are you sending these files where you can max out the speeds?
Again - as I said - if you have a legitimate business use then ULTRA satisfies it. What business are you in that you need to stream and send video?
As far as a losing one megabit if you get static IP. Are you serious? OOL fully discloses it. It's ONE MEGABIT. Do you have any idea how much more it would be to provide a gigabit router to gain ONE MEGABIT?
Really? Buy a "real" business connection and then you can start complaining. I could understand people having a legitimate gripe if the service was really that bad or had serious flaws. These issues are extremely minor..... |
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jakefuzzy
join:2006-04-08
Jackson, NJ
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I'm not complaining just to complain. First of all, releasing a product, Ultra, and knowing that the static IP router you are installing with the service in NOT adequate, is wrong. The Cisco 851 is a 10/100Mb router not a Gigabit router. Second of all, if OOL are saying that customers with static IP's should see speeds of 70 - 75Mb/s, then you should see those speeds. I have 1 otheer ultra user on my node and it's a Dunkin Dounuts. Here is my speed test.
OOL coming out this morning! |
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