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Re: [Mossberg] New Mac Laptops Use Batteries Sealed for Power There was a big thread about this when the first 17" with the on board battery came out. I think the consensus here was very few people ever took their battery out other then to replace it (which you can still do yourself on these new macs with 2 screwdrivers, assuming a 3rd party starts making batteries.) Since people are getting 7-8 hours real world use on them, you'd be hard pressed to spend 7-8 hours without coming across a receptacle. |
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 The Dv8orJust call me Dong Suck Oh, M.D.Premium
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Denver, CO | The biggest drawback for this is on overseas flights. |
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Hamilton, ON | said by The Dv8or:The biggest drawback for this is on overseas flights. Then fly an airline that provides power at your seat. |
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The Dv8orJust call me Dong Suck Oh, M.D.Premium
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Denver, CO | said by ArthurS:said by The Dv8or:The biggest drawback for this is on overseas flights. Then fly an airline that provides power at your seat. Which can be significantly more expensive, and many people who fly overseas do so for their company, and have no say in this. Good try, though, thanks for playing.
Haroldo, not having a battery work in a laptop is a VERY big deal. If you were able to get by with just a power cord, you should have saved the cash and gotten a desktop.
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1 edit | said by The Dv8or:...Haroldo, not having a battery work in a laptop is a VERY big deal. If you were able to get by with just a power cord, you should have saved the cash and gotten a desktop. It was an old iBook with Leopard, so it wasn't worth replacing, but it also wasn't worth buying a replacement battery.
The iBook rarely left the den, so it really wasn't a mobile computer.
When the display died, I bought the MacBook.
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The Dv8orJust call me Dong Suck Oh, M.D.Premium
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Denver, CO | said by haroldo:said by The Dv8or:...Haroldo, not having a battery work in a laptop is a VERY big deal. If you were able to get by with just a power cord, you should have saved the cash and gotten a desktop. It was an old iBook with Leopard, so it wasn't worth replacing, but it also wasn't worth buying a replacement battery. The iBook rarely left the den, so it really wasn't a mobile computer. When the display died, I bought the MacBook. You can't pay me to use a desktop computer. Its a big deal for those who actually let their laptop leave their desk and need to use it where an outlet isnt always accessible.
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ArthurSWatch Those Blinking LightsPremium
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Hamilton, ON | reply to The Dv8or
said by The Dv8or:said by ArthurS:said by The Dv8or:The biggest drawback for this is on overseas flights. Then fly an airline that provides power at your seat. Which can be significantly more expensive, and many people who fly overseas do so for their company, and have no say in this. Good try, though, thanks for playing. Nonsense! Many international carriers have power outlets throughout economy for their overseas flights, and their tickets are priced very competitively. If your time is soooo important that you need to work through the entire flight, then you will likely be flying business class, which increases your odds of getting seat power. 5-6 hours of battery life for work is plenty for a flight across the pond when you factor in time you will be sleeping and eating, been there, done that too many times. You can try again. |
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The Dv8orJust call me Dong Suck Oh, M.D.Premium
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Denver, CO | said by ArthurS:If your time is soooo important that you need to work through the entire flight, then you will likely be flying business class, which increases your odds of getting seat power. 5-6 hours of battery life for work is plenty for a flight across the pond when you factor in time you will be sleeping and eating, been there, done that too many times. You can try again. That's a hell of an assumption to make, and is often untrue. Many people have shit they got to get done on the plane, but the company doesn't pony up for business class. Such is life in the current economy.
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kudos:12 | said by The Dv8or:said by ArthurS:If your time is soooo important that you need to work through the entire flight, then you will likely be flying business class, which increases your odds of getting seat power. 5-6 hours of battery life for work is plenty for a flight across the pond when you factor in time you will be sleeping and eating, been there, done that too many times. You can try again. That's a hell of an assumption to make, and is often untrue. Many people have shit they got to get done on the plane, but the company doesn't pony up for business class. Such is life in the current economy. Not only that, but not everyone flies for business. Laptops double as movie players, can play light games, etc. With WiFi being offered on flights, casual usage will increase as well. Hopefully power outlets will be offered, but I've never seen them on a domestic flight. |
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said by The Dv8or:said by ArthurS:If your time is soooo important that you need to work through the entire flight, then you will likely be flying business class, which increases your odds of getting seat power. 5-6 hours of battery life for work is plenty for a flight across the pond when you factor in time you will be sleeping and eating, been there, done that too many times. You can try again. That's a hell of an assumption to make, and is often untrue. Many people have shit they got to get done on the plane, but the company doesn't pony up for business class. Such is life in the current economy. Yep, and I'll wager to say that it's more true than untrue. Seems like you only work for slave drivers. If their work is so important that they need to take more than 5 or 6 hours of flight time to do it, most likely they are high enough up the ladder to get business class, or are frequent travelers that can get an upgrade (I used to do that all the time going SFO-NRT). How long is a flight from NYC to LHR? Subtract the appropriate #hours for meals, takeoff and landing, and you have the battery life of a MacBook Pro. I can tell you if a company expects me to work for the entire flight (or for that matter more than 5-6 hours on a flight, they can shove it! I need my rest to adjust to time changes as well so that I'm in my best shape to do business when I arrive!  |
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ArthurSWatch Those Blinking LightsPremium
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said by Matt:said by The Dv8or:said by ArthurS:If your time is soooo important that you need to work through the entire flight, then you will likely be flying business class, which increases your odds of getting seat power. 5-6 hours of battery life for work is plenty for a flight across the pond when you factor in time you will be sleeping and eating, been there, done that too many times. You can try again. That's a hell of an assumption to make, and is often untrue. Many people have shit they got to get done on the plane, but the company doesn't pony up for business class. Such is life in the current economy. Not only that, but not everyone flies for business. Laptops double as movie players, can play light games, etc. With WiFi being offered on flights, casual usage will increase as well. Hopefully power outlets will be offered, but I've never seen them on a domestic flight. I would think 5-6 hours of movie time is plenty for an overseas flight. Don't forget modern airplanes have entertainment systems as well! How many domestic flights are longer than 5-6 hours? |
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kudos:12 | said by ArthurS:I would think 5-6 hours of movie time is plenty for an overseas flight. Don't forget modern airplanes have entertainment systems as well! How many domestic flights are longer than 5-6 hours? Do you believe a modern laptop actually gets 5-6 hours while you are using it? Most reviews put the new Macbooks around 3:30 and the older Macbook at an hour less. |
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1 edit | said by Matt:said by ArthurS:I would think 5-6 hours of movie time is plenty for an overseas flight. Don't forget modern airplanes have entertainment systems as well! How many domestic flights are longer than 5-6 hours? Do you believe a modern laptop actually gets 5-6 hours while you are using it? Most reviews put the new Macbooks around 3:30 and the older Macbook at an hour less. What rock have you been hiding under? With careful management of resources, I get 3 1/2 to 4 hours of time with my first generation MacBook Pro 17" that is still on it's original, almost 3 year old battery. With the new MacBook Pro's, it's longer. Edit: With remarks like that, it seems to me you don't own a MacBook Pro, neither do you fly much. |
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said by Matt:Do you believe a modern laptop actually gets 5-6 hours while you are using it? Most reviews put the new Macbooks around 3:30 and the older Macbook at an hour less. Your kidding, right? AnandTech got nearly 5 HOURS with this benchmark:
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For this benchmark I'm downloading 10GB worth of files from the net (constant writes to the drive), browsing the web (same test as the first one) and watching the first two episodes of Firefly encoded in a 480p XviD format (Quicktime is set to loop the content until the system dies).
So 5 hours of serious computing, and 8 hours of web surfing. Go see for yourself:
»www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.as···3580&p=4 |
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My 2007 MBP gets, if I'm lucky, 3 hours. 2 hours if playing a movie.
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said by haroldo:said by The Dv8or:...Haroldo, not having a battery work in a laptop is a VERY big deal. If you were able to get by with just a power cord, you should have saved the cash and gotten a desktop. It was an old iBook with Leopard, so it wasn't worth replacing, but it also wasn't worth buying a replacement battery. The iBook rarely left the den, so it really wasn't a mobile computer. When the display died, I bought the MacBook. You can't pay me to use a desktop computer. Replacement batteries for laptops are around 50 to 80 bucks, why is it not worth replacing?
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said by bbarrera:said by Matt:Do you believe a modern laptop actually gets 5-6 hours while you are using it? Most reviews put the new Macbooks around 3:30 and the older Macbook at an hour less. Your kidding, right? AnandTech got nearly 5 HOURS with this benchmark: quote:
For this benchmark I'm downloading 10GB worth of files from the net (constant writes to the drive), browsing the web (same test as the first one) and watching the first two episodes of Firefly encoded in a 480p XviD format (Quicktime is set to loop the content until the system dies).
So 5 hours of serious computing, and 8 hours of web surfing. Go see for yourself: » www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.as···3580&p=4 Who's going to reduce the screen brightness to 50% unless you're flying at night? Not to mention usage in the airport. Let's be realistic here. The new Macbooks make GREAT strides in battery life, but they are still nowhere near the claimed life. This is not exclusive to Apple, all laptop makers lie about it.
»gizmodo.com/5287179/macbook-pro-2009-review |
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said by r81984:Replacement batteries for laptops are around 50 to 80 bucks, why is it not worth replacing? Nah, not on a slow 5 year old iBook. At some point it's no longer worth investing in. |
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said by Matt:Who's going to reduce the screen brightness to 50% unless you're flying at night? Not to mention usage in the airport. Let's be realistic here. The new Macbooks make GREAT strides in battery life, but they are still nowhere near the claimed life. This is not exclusive to Apple, all laptop makers lie about it. » gizmodo.com/5287179/macbook-pro-2009-review I reduce the brightness of my MBP screen quite often, even during the daytime. If in an airport, I easily find an AC outlet to plug into if I need it. I think you're the one being unrealistic, do you own a MacBook Pro to back up your claims? I'm typing on one right now. |
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