Topic 'Re: See all the conditions for approval in Appendix C' in forum '' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22610026 en Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:11:45 EDT Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:11:45 EDT Re: See all the conditions for approval in Appendix C http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22624024 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22624024 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:58:08 EDT Re: See all the conditions for approval in Appendix C http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22613574 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22613574 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 07:46:40 EDT Re: See all the conditions for approval in Appendix C http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22612813 said by jjeffeory:

U-verse experince is better than Cox in Vegas on the TV side. Embarq is a joke around here. Cox owns the market for sure. Clearwire wouldn't work for a home with that lovely 5GB cap they have! Man, Vegas needs more options! Fios here would be wonderful!
I'd kill to have Verizon here, or even AT&T. Here's to hoping CenturyLink realizes it bit off more than it can chew and sells this market off to a real teclo.
--
"If it can't be done with brains, it can't be done with hours" - Clarence "Kelly" Johnson]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22612813 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:16:06 EDT Re: See all the conditions for approval in Appendix C http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22612519 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22612519 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:12:04 EDT Re: See all the conditions for approval in Appendix C http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22611873
As for U-Verse, cable companies don't need to upgrade to even DOCSIS 2.0 to deal with them. A decent cable system (860MHz or so of bandwidth) on DOCSIS 1.1 has successfully allowed for 15/2 and even 20/1.5 internet service, which meet or beat U-Verse. Kick in some PowerBoost and U-Verse is vanquished.

The only thing that competes with DOCSIS 3 on speed is fiber at this point. VDSL2 might be an option, but nobody's deploying it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22611873 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:58:53 EDT Re: See all the conditions for approval in Appendix C http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22611794 said by iansltx:

Apples to oranges.

I'm pretty sure CenturyTel isn't in any heavily competitive markets. 20 Mbps fiber, and Windstream's 24 Mbps service, are competing against DOCSIS 1.1. By its nature, fiber can be ratcheted up to as high speeds as are needed to compete. When CenTel does fiber, it's the best-speed service in the area.

On the DSL side of things, yes it's crappy. Then again, AT&T's U-Verse tops out at 18 Mbps if you don't have TV running, 15 Mbps if you do. That's their next-generation technology. DOCSIS 3 beats that, too.
I'd happily accept U-Verse over the 1.5 Mbps DSL that is available to me, at least it would give the local cable company a reason to transit to DOCSIS 3.0.

Vegas could be a competitive market, but Embarq ignores it. I'm pretty sure that CenturyLink will ignore it as well, which is sad because the old Sprint had this city wired with tons of fiber.
--
"If it can't be done with brains, it can't be done with hours" - Clarence "Kelly" Johnson]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22611794 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:40:46 EDT Re: See all the conditions for approval in Appendix C http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22611698
I'm pretty sure CenturyTel isn't in any heavily competitive markets. 20 Mbps fiber, and Windstream's 24 Mbps service, are competing against DOCSIS 1.1. By its nature, fiber can be ratcheted up to as high speeds as are needed to compete. When CenTel does fiber, it's the best-speed service in the area.

On the DSL side of things, yes it's crappy. Then again, AT&T's U-Verse tops out at 18 Mbps if you don't have TV running, 15 Mbps if you do. That's their next-generation technology. DOCSIS 3 beats that, too.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22611698 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:23:42 EDT Re: See all the conditions for approval in Appendix C http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22611429
Its a start, at least they are doing something, and they can(and most likely will) up the speed some time.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22611429 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:31:43 EDT Re: See all the conditions for approval in Appendix C http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22610993 said by fifty nine:

Same here in NJ.

I was hoping the merger would have meant some form of FTTH, but it looks like the cable company will be getting my business for now.
It seems CenturyTel's idea of "FTTH" is 20 Mbps, which Cox can surpass fairly easily. I think those of us stuck in Embarq's service (or lack there-of) regions are screwed. As much as people rag on AT&T, at least they are working to provide something more than ADSL, 1.5 Mbps ADSL to urban regions at that. I could totally understand the lack of service if this was a small town with sparse farms, but you have literally a ton of customers in areas of Vegas that are either without DSL, or stuck with the lower tiers. How about some competition?

2 more years and I'm out of this hellhole, hopefully I am stationed in a Verizon FiOS area next time around.
--
"If it can't be done with brains, it can't be done with hours" - Clarence "Kelly" Johnson]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22610993 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:23:50 EDT Re: See all the conditions for approval in Appendix C http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22610648
I was hoping the merger would have meant some form of FTTH, but it looks like the cable company will be getting my business for now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22610648 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:29:23 EDT Re: See all the conditions for approval in Appendix C http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22610640 --
"If it can't be done with brains, it can't be done with hours" - Clarence "Kelly" Johnson]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22610640 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:27:56 EDT Re: See all the conditions for approval in Appendix C http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22610553
EDIT: Looks like they may be useing some wireless »CenturyTel Plans To Use LTE For Rural Deployment]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22610553 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:10:19 EDT Re: See all the conditions for approval in Appendix C http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22610486 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22610486 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:56:14 EDT Re: See all the conditions for approval in Appendix C http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22610481 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22610481 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:55:43 EDT Re: See all the conditions for approval in Appendix C http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22610414 The merged company will offer retail broadband Internet access service to 100 percent of its broadband
eligible access lines within three years of the Transaction Closing Date.That metric does include satellite.
To meet this commitment the merged company will make available retail broadband Internet access service with a download speed of 768 kbps to 90 percent of its broadband eligible access lines using wireline technologies within three years of the Transaction Closing Date.
If they're already at 87%, DSL expansion of 1% per year is less than many companies do organically. CenturyTel tells investors they're lowering Capex, so they're actually slowing down expansion over the next three years from my understanding....

Really, these conditions on expansion aren't actually saying anything whatsoever. They're just words on a page.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22610414 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:43:25 EDT Re: See all the conditions for approval in Appendix C http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22610354 Internet access service with a download speed of 768 kbps to 90 percent of its broadband
eligible access lines using wireline technologies within three years of the Transaction
Closing Date.

It says they have to be wired not sat or wireless.

And

· In addition, the merged company will make available retail broadband Internet access
service with a download speed of (1) 1.5 Mbps to 87% of the broadband eligible access
lines within two years of the Transaction Closing Date and (2) 3 Mbps to 75% of
broadband eligible access lines within one year of the Transaction Closing Date, 78% of
broadband eligible lines within two years of the Transaction Closing Date, and 80% of
broadband eligible lines within three years of the Transaction Closing Date.
· Broadband eligible access lines are defined as retail single-line residential and single-line
business access lines.

If anyone cares.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22610354 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:33:11 EDT Re: See all the conditions for approval in Appendix C http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22610229 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22610229 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:16:32 EDT See all the conditions for approval in Appendix C http://www.dslreports.com/forum/See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22610026 »hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/a···54A1.pdf

High level summary of only the broadband conditions:
The merged company expects to make substantial additional investment in broadband services. The
merged company will offer retail broadband Internet access service to 100 percent of its broadband
eligible access lines within three years of the Transaction Closing Date.

· To meet this commitment the merged company will make available retail broadband
Internet access service with a download speed of 768 kbps to 90 percent of its broadband
eligible access lines using wireline technologies within three years of the Transaction
Closing Date. The merged company will make available retail broadband Internet access
service in accordance with the FCC’s current definition of broadband to the remaining
broadband eligible access lines using alternative technologies and operating
arrangements, including but not limited to satellite and terrestrial wireless broadband
technologies.

· In addition, the merged company will make available retail broadband Internet access
service with a download speed of (1) 1.5 Mbps to 87% of the broadband eligible access
lines within two years of the Transaction Closing Date and (2) 3 Mbps to 75% of
broadband eligible access lines within one year of the Transaction Closing Date, 78% of
broadband eligible lines within two years of the Transaction Closing Date, and 80% of
broadband eligible lines within three years of the Transaction Closing Date.

· Broadband eligible access lines are defined as retail single-line residential and single-line
business access lines.
You can read more detailed info on each of the above conditions in the document.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/See-all-the-conditions-for-approval-in-Appendix-C-22610026 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:44:25 EDT