unlimited service in Millenicom users forum http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22615064 en Sun, 06 Dec 2009 08:44:51 EDT Sun, 06 Dec 2009 08:44:51 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22758435 kubel : Sprints official stand is "tethering is not even possible" with Everything Data. No one to my knowledge has ever been "caught tethering" with an Everything Data plan.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22758435 Fri, 24 Jul 2009 04:50:34 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22757650 dMarks : Should be able to grab the MDN and MSID numbers from there as well, since you may want to have those handy just in case.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22757650 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:03:53 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22757205 mtncat :
said by Jim_in_VA See Profile :

This why you should always write down and keep, your MSL number if you are using a Franklin (CDU680) modem. Go to your members account page and open your profile. The MSL is there.

Without the MSL you can't do a ##RTN or ##DATA on that modem
I did not know this. Now I do..

thanks jim]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22757205 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:40:10 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22757148 Jim_in_VA : This why you should always write down and keep, your MSL number if you are using a Franklin (CDU680) modem. Go to your members account page and open your profile. The MSL is there.

Without the MSL you can't do a ##RTN or ##DATA on that modem
--
... need help? »evdo-tips.com/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22757148 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:29:42 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22756679 Jack_in_VA : What the bunch of numbers were were new MDN and MSID numbers. Did they look like phone numbers? If so you activated a new account with Sprint.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22756679 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:15:07 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22756498 my2k2zx2 : Called back since they didnt call me first.

I called Millenicom since they had my trouble info, they had me to a ##RTN and reset the device. Had me type in a bunch of numbers and I'm back on again.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22756498 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:44:31 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22755589 dMarks : Hmm. I've had only one experience with Sprint Customer Service, and that was after Dennis called them and had them contact me. I agree, the experience was nothing like some of the complaints I've heard about from others.
--
Windows XP Pro SP3 / Windows 7 64bit RC|AMD Phenom X3 8650|Asus M3N72-D Motherboard|4GB Patriot PC2-8500 1066MHz RAM|EVGA GeForce GTS 250 1GB Ram Superclock Edition]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22755589 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:52:00 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22755374 Jack_in_VA : Could be, but I've used Sprint customer service 3 times now with no problems. The problems have all been Sprints that would impact their direct customers also. Issues that Millenicom would not have any control of or ability to resolve. I might add my experiences with Sprints customer service was nothing like the negatives I've seen posted on this forum. I think it's all in how the customer interacts with them .]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22755374 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:16:08 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22755004 dMarks :
said by Jack_in_VA See Profile :

Millenicom only sets up accounts with Sprint. Sprint actually makes it happen. I learned early on that physical problems with the service is to deal directly with Sprint.
Wasn't there a member on the Sprint board here who did exactly that and got reprimanded by Millenicom for it? Think it was Belinrahs See Profile
--
Windows XP Pro SP3 / Windows 7 64bit RC|AMD Phenom X3 8650|Asus M3N72-D Motherboard|4GB Patriot PC2-8500 1066MHz RAM|EVGA GeForce GTS 250 1GB Ram Superclock Edition]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22755004 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:26:59 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22753411 anon :
said by birdwatcher See Profile :

Wow, I'd like to know how many are actually happy with their new unlimited? What are your speeds?
I am happy with mine. I have got about the same speed as the Verizon card was giving me - 500Kbps to 1.2Mbps depending on where I am at and time of day (number of users on tower).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22753411 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:55:49 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22753254 Jack_in_VA : I think it could be possibly two things that could cause your problem. One is the modem crashed. The other is you no longer have an active account with Sprint through Millenicom. Possibly the "unlimited" that you thought you had through Millenicom was more than Sprint was willing to tolerate?

Millenicom only sets up accounts with Sprint. Sprint actually makes it happen. I learned early on that physical problems with the service is to deal directly with Sprint.

I also know from the prior Modem Virus with the CDU-680 that all was needed to restore service was a new account with Sprint and new MSID and MDN numbers which I put in the CDU.

Get your active user name for the account and MDN number from the CDU device info screen and call sprint wireless help.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22753254 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:28:40 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22753073 my2k2zx2 : ??? All I was told was they would submit a trouble ticket and would call back but to keep trying to connect and see if it clears things up.

I'm calling again this evening to see if I can get an update if its not working.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22753073 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:49:30 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22752795 OmegaWolf747 : Cool. Thanks. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22752795 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:37:26 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22752791 Jim_in_VA : Cradlepoint MBR1000 router in load-balancing mode
--
... need help? »evdo-tips.com/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22752791 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:35:21 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22752785 OmegaWolf747 : How do you combine the speeds, a program downloaded, or a Windows setting?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22752785 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:33:44 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22752774 Jim_in_VA : yes]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22752774 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:28:22 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22752769 OmegaWolf747 : Paired as in combining phone and aircard speed to make your Net speed faster?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22752769 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:27:02 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22752760 Jim_in_VA : Here I've taken a Sprint cellphone and paired it with a Verizon UM175:



or you could do the reverse with a Verizon phone and a Sprint modem
--
... need help? »evdo-tips.com/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22752760 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:22:10 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22752722 avd706 :
said by Jim_in_VA See Profile :

Happy with my speeds, using Sprint and Verizon in tandem. Note IP is Sprint, ISP is Verizon.
Those speeds are just beautiful.
--
standard disclaimers apply.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22752722 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 07:59:53 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22752709 Jim_in_VA : Happy with my speeds, using Sprint and Verizon in tandem. Note IP is Sprint, ISP is Verizon.
--
... need help? »evdo-tips.com/
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22752709 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 07:55:57 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22752687 Jim_in_VA : Can't Millenicom Support reactivate/reset your modem for you?
--
... need help? »evdo-tips.com/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22752687 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 07:44:01 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22752667 my2k2zx2 : My unlimited service went down yesterday. Cant connect anymore. Try to "Update User Profile" and I get an Error 1012. Called Millenicom yesterday and they cant seem to figure this one out. Back on dialup until they call back with how to get this fixed or the modem decides to connect again.

I've tried to update and connect on 3 different computers and they are all getting the error. Took the netbook into town to try at a different location and that didnt work either.

Anyone had this problem before? If so, what needed to be done to fix this?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22752667 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 07:29:41 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22752565 birdwatcher : Wow, I'd like to know how many are actually happy with their new unlimited? What are your speeds?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22752565 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 06:08:38 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22751582 anon : i'm about 3 miles from the orange give or take i should have checked it myself. Maybe it will expand in the future... If i had the money i would have tried Cyfre amp/ant. Im getting 2.7down with the Verizon now and the CDU-680 was dial-up speeds if that..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22751582 Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:32:54 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22751352 Jim_in_VA : ..were you in Sprint coverage, or borderline?
--
... need help? »evdo-tips.com/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22751352 Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:40:17 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22751266 anon : I mailed my CDU-680 back today and am sticking with the UM-175... The Verizon service is just to fast and capped but i'll take the faster speeds...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22751266 Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:34:04 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22748359 anon :
said by s012adh :

So I guess if you can get unlimited service, they just go ahead and send one out without any further communication. I'm assuming the other active account gets canceled when I send back the modem I have now?
Yup. On the signup form, among the "terms" it tells that submitting the form serves as your authorization to make the change and they will do it automatically when an account is available if you are in an area with the covereage (read as Sprint coverage)

It also tells that you need to return the Pantech and everything that came with it to be received by them by the end of the month to avoid being billed for both.

I just got mine yesterday and am very happy with it. I never did like the Verizon one anyway (I used to have the CDU-680 until mine was among the many "switched" to Verizon). They mailed it via Priority Mail and I will return it that way. They do advise insuring it since you are responsible for it until it is in their possession.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22748359 Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:18:28 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22747833 anon : I signed up for the unlimited service the day that it was announced and then didn't hear anything until I got an email last evening saying that an item was being shipped out via USPS. I then logged into my member account and saw that 2 accounts show up (my current one and the unlimited one) and that a CDU-680 is being sent. So I guess if you can get unlimited service, they just go ahead and send one out without any further communication. I'm assuming the other active account gets canceled when I send back the modem I have now?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22747833 Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:00:40 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22741203 anon : Must be nice. I was told the are out of accounts.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22741203 Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:31:20 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22740080 kubel : Should have read "no such worries". Looks like I need to preview my posts a little better next time :).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22740080 Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:12:15 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22740076 kubel : My Tether is one such application.

»forums.precentral.net/homebrew-a···red.html

But there's speculation that Sprint will be releasing updates to kill this application. No suck worries on the Touch Pro since it's almost EOL.

I'm not a huge fan of the tiny keyboard on it. But I like the Linux-based WebOS though, good concept, and it should inspire a lot of Linux fans to release lots of spiffy apps for it. But I think I'll hold out until they release a model with a more comfortable keyboard. I think they got the OS down (iPhone killer), but the phone itself needs some refinement. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22740076 Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:11:13 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22739910 compuguybna : Not at least now, anyway.

There is never anything such as "unlimited". It will only be a matter of time . . .

reply to david_h15
I got my franklin 2 days ago, I couldn't be happier! Its faster, no daily disconnects and I don't have that pesky 5 gb cap hanging over my head.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22739910 Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:39:33 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22739827 Chuck35 : I got my franklin 2 days ago, I couldn't be happier! Its faster, no daily disconnects and I don't have that pesky 5 gb cap hanging over my head. Hopefully this will at least last untill there are some more options available.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22739827 Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:21:07 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22739690 chadd02 : So I just got my franklin today, and emailed MC to ask how long this "unlimited" service would last. The reply was quite comical. "We are unable to give you an answer as this depends on our upstream provider." So why the 10 dollar price hike ??? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22739690 Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:57:08 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22736305 avd706 :
said by kubel See Profile :

I also considered the Palm Pre since it's cheap and is supposed to be a great phone with an impressive OS, but free-tether registry hacks and apps like WMWiFiRouter (or would it be WebOSWiFiRouter?) aren't readily available, and those that are get quickly disabled/blocked by updates. So I suppose the benefit of getting an EOL phone is that Sprint can't release updates to undo free-tether mods. Also, this phone is very capable (can play YouTube, SprintTV, and other high-bandwidth stuff), so there's a lot of room for "plausible deniability" if you know what I mean
I saw a guy on twitter saying he could do tether a pre to one computer using a "rooted pre".
--
standard disclaimers apply.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22736305 Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:59:33 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22735935 anon :
said by kubel See Profile :

So I agree, a much better deal that Millenicom. Just a bit more complex than a simple USB adapter, though.
Until you get caught tethering and you are stuck in a 2 year contract.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22735935 Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:34:28 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22735490 kubel : Yep, same phone :). It's getting old (EOL is August 1), but it's still the best phone in the Sprint lineup, IMO.

I would have liked to get the Touch Pro 2, but Sprint is delaying their release of it, probably just in time for the original Touch Pro to go EOL. I suppose if it comes out in the next 30 days, I can return this phone, pay the restocking fee, and get the new model.

I also considered the Palm Pre since it's cheap and is supposed to be a great phone with an impressive OS, but free-tether registry hacks and apps like WMWiFiRouter (or would it be WebOSWiFiRouter?) aren't readily available, and those that are get quickly disabled/blocked by updates. So I suppose the benefit of getting an EOL phone is that Sprint can't release updates to undo free-tether mods. Also, this phone is very capable (can play YouTube, SprintTV, and other high-bandwidth stuff), so there's a lot of room for "plausible deniability" if you know what I mean.

With 25% off, I get Everything Data + 450 Anytime Minutes for $52.49 plus tax and fees. If anyone is interested in the savings, just tell Sprint you would like to apply a 25% discount with the CorpID: NAACU_ZZZ. It worked for me, no questions asked. So it's like I'm saving money on my mobile broadband and getting free voice service as well.

Plus I'm using my brother as the person who referred me, so I think we both get $50 prepaid cards. So I agree, a much better deal that Millenicom. Just a bit more complex than a simple USB adapter, though. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22735490 Mon, 20 Jul 2009 03:27:17 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22734660 mtncat : Right, this is the Millenicom forum, after all...

Sprint contracting Sony Ericsson to manange their network might create some changes in their ability to monitor usage. Millenicom's unlimited Sprint service may be short lived. Hope not.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22734660 Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:44:34 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22734573 Test99 :
said by winstonplatt See Profile :

I'm on the sprint based unlimited $70 per month plan. In my first week Iv used about 30GB and haven't heard from Millenicom yet.
With Sprint, the history has been that service via Millenicom is not capped, but the price increases. Maybe Sprint doesn't have the ability to cap their Millenicom service?

With this kind of usage, I predict another price increase soon.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22734573 Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:23:40 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22734504 mtncat : Guess I'd be foolish not to try the Sprint phone method. $20/month + cost of phone to add a Mogul to my account, with unlimited data... hmmm. Hope I can get that 3G signal. Mogul, gotta love that name :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22734504 Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:03:31 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22734307 Jim_in_VA : oy!! I'll get it written ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22734307 Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:02:13 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22734268 dMarks : I'm keeping my eye on your blog for the article about all this Jim...if I can get the same service but cheaper, then that's certainly what I need right now. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22734268 Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:49:33 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22734256 Jim_in_VA : That is not what I have observed using Sprint, I have no idea about Alltel. Folks over at »www.ppcgeeks.com could probably advise you on that service.
--
... need help? »evdo-tips.com/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22734256 Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:45:50 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22734185 my2k2zx2 : Using WMWfiRouter can Alltel detect I'm using it tethered and possibly kick me from their service?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22734185 Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:23:26 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22734050 Jim_in_VA : If the phone is EVDO RevA capable it will have the same speeds as the modems. The two models I suggested are RevA and also have antenna ports on them, with which you can attach an external antenna if needed. WMWfiRouter is software you install on the phone - not a physical router.
--
... need help? »evdo-tips.com/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22734050 Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:44:50 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22733969 my2k2zx2 : We are not in a MetroPCS area so thats not an option.

With tethering there is no issues with using it in place of the Millenicom modem? (Havent really looked into the tethering option but it would be nice to have it replace Millenicom and our prepaid Boost Mobile phone.)

I can now get a discount through work on Alltel service, not sure what phones are offered without contacting the rep.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22733969 Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:18:46 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22733910 jfd15 : thanks for the info Jim....i have to study those phones and that router a little bit- im not too familiar with the various cell phones out there....can i ask you what kind of speeds you getting, ive seen some mention 125-150 kbps but that was a metropcs thread....and does your phone co. ever contact you about too much data usage? what do you think would be safe usage amount?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22733910 Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:00:29 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22733781 Jim_in_VA : I wondered where you got off to :) Congrats on the DSL, I'm happy for ya.
--
... need help? »evdo-tips.com/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22733781 Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:20:25 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22733759 ebb0ts : So sad to see this ..
I used Millenicom for a long time, they were great folks to deal with. Also "Jim_in_VA" and so many others here were so kind to help me tweak that puppy for max performance. Out here in rural AZ I was on a DSL wait list for 12 years!!! 34,000 ft from co. 3 mths ago a tech dropped by and said I could get a slow DSL right now. It would be just 1.5/768. But DSL.
I said yes before his words stopped echoing. I was up and running in about 1.5 hrs!!!! Yehaw!! Called Millenicom and they were gracious as usual and the cancel of my wireless was done right then. I hope you all well and that you have the same luck as I. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22733759 Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:12:56 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22733627 Jim_in_VA : The nice thing about Metro PCS is they will activate any phone from any carrier - so you go on Ebay and pick up a Sprint Mogul or Verizon VX6800 for less than a $100 and have a fabulous full-featured WinMo phone that you put WMWfiRouter on, and you're good to go.
--
... need help? »evdo-tips.com/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22733627 Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:35:27 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22733597 jfd15 : Kubel - i looked at tethering but i dont have have the necessary phone right now on Metro PCS - i want to upgrade to a Blackberry 8330 but havent tried to see yet if it will allow tethering...you probably already looked over on Howards Forums, they seem to know what they doing regarding tethering.... how long before the phone co's close that loophole though....i think it was last year on here someone said you could tether an AT&T GoPhone for unlimited data?? wonder if that still works.....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22733597 Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:28:09 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22732448 Jim_in_VA : So which phone are you getting Kubel? I've got WMWifirouter on a HTC Touch Pro - works great, I really like that phone. That is a smart move on your end BTW
--
... need help? »evdo-tips.com/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22732448 Sun, 19 Jul 2009 09:46:28 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22731872 kubel : Yeah, that's exactly what Millenicom is doing. I just wish they made that known to modem buyers beforehand that their uncapped service is "good while supplies last, then your screwed". My problem was I invested $99.99 into a modem thinking the service would last more than 3 months.

You can, however, get mobile broadband for less than you would expect. Just get a smart phone with an unlimited data plan and tether it to your computer. It's cheaper than Millenicom. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22731872 Sun, 19 Jul 2009 02:24:10 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22731864 kubel : Yes, I'm through with Millenicom. They offered me a refund, but I had to press them for it. They originally wanted to take it back and then credit my account for $99.99 towards the purchase of the new device. But eventually they just said to send it back in the original box with the original contents and they will refund me.

I just need to find my stupid driver CD. If I remember correctly, they were burned onto an unlabeled disk, right? That narrows it down to about 500 disks I have laying around here. :) Also, what did the box come with? I think it came with a Y-cable and an extension cable, UN175, and the CD in an envelope with a big red stop sign on it. Correct?

Anyway, I'm replacing Millenicom with Sprint. I found a 25% off deal that I can get through a credit union that lets me get 450 minutes plus unlimited data for $52.49/mo, which is cheaper than Millenicom. So I'm basically getting the same wireless broadband service at a cheaper rate PLUS 450 minutes.

The disadvantage is that I have to pay fees and tax, and it's a 2-year contract. I also have to use registry hack to tether via USB or Bluetooth, or share wirelessly with WMWiFiRouter, so as to avoid Sprint becoming wise. ;)

Sprints official policy is that data is unlimited on my plan, but tethering is not included. So if they see I'm using 10GB in one month, they might wonder if that much bandwidth could possibly be used by just a Windows Mobile phone. General consensus is that a smartphone, even with heavy use, would probably never be able to use more than 5GB in one month due to the limited nature of the operating system and hardware specs.

Anyway, I'm out of contract for my first 30-days. I'll tinker around with it and if I don't like it, I'll get a refund (minus $35 restocking fee). ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22731864 Sun, 19 Jul 2009 02:19:24 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22730351 jfd15 : i think millenicom is just trying to allow/provide as much bandwidth as they can get away with....no other company is even trying to offer anything other than the 5 GB/mo for $60 so ill stay with millenicom and see how the AWS goes- maybe like a Metro PCS for cell service, they can slowly increase their coverage area for the AWS service...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22730351 Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:07:39 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22729694 winstonplatt : There Unlimited service doesn't make allot of sense. If an uncongested area becomes congested, will Millenicom just say "sorry we can't offer you unlimited service anymore" ?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22729694 Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:48:44 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22728527 birdwatcher : Kubel are you ending your service with Millenicom? I asked for a refund too, about 3 days ago and havent heard back.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22728527 Sat, 18 Jul 2009 10:02:41 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22727757 kubel : I asked that very same question to Millenicom. Here was their response:

Your response makes perfect sense, however the real costs vary according to the region (unused service in Austin is free, congested service in Tulsa requires the purchase of more bandwidth in a closed market, etc) and setting any price for any capped service runs into the identical situation down the road as offering unlimited for $69.99 (our price for the Millenicom Ultra account).

BTW: Millenicom agreed to a refund. I'm glad they did the right thing. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22727757 Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:04:20 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22727128 anon : 30gb?? No wonder caps were put in. I don't care if the service is "unlimited", have a little courtesy of other people, others have to use that same cell tower. I'm sorry but yes, 30gb is WAY too much for one week on a wireless service. I have FIOS service (sorry for those that don't) and use around 110-120gb and 95% of that is from netflix & amazon VOD video streaming, but again, I have FIOS.

What SHOULD happen is millenicom/Verizon/Sprint should release tiers of service and those who want to use that high of bandwidth should have to pay a little more for it based on the tier. I think that's fair?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22727128 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:22:28 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22726866 rokntroll : What is the old saying? If we don't learn from history than history is bound to repeat itself? Something along those lines]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22726866 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:23:16 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22726831 Jim_in_VA : I'll drive 74 mph in a 65 zone and cops will tolerate that. Go above and risk a ticket. Stay 9 above and your safe, 10 above not. Same theory applies here.
--
... need help? »evdo-tips.com/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22726831 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:14:47 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22726737 Jack_in_VA : I would bet the neighbor doesn't have him at the top of his nice guy list.. :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22726737 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:56:23 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22726706 Jim_in_VA :
said by winstonplatt See Profile :

I'm on the sprint based unlimited $70 per month plan. In my first week Iv used about 30GB and haven't heard from Millenicom yet.
I would be interested to see a speedtest post on your connection ... as well as a neighbor on the same tower.
--
... need help? »evdo-tips.com/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22726706 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:49:06 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22726523 dondude : Hey i'll wait till warning and upgrade! I don't think they can measure sprint usage myself? I know i've gone way over 5 gigs.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22726523 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:16:02 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22726504 Jim_in_VA : I am curious why those of you who have been on 1900 PCS since the start would automatically add $10 to your bill ... fear factor?
--
... need help? »evdo-tips.com/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22726504 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:11:44 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22726188 caribconsult : I just had my account converted to the 'new unlimited' version. If it truly stays that way, then I think the 70/mon is not bad; it's right around what Hughes would charge, and their cap is ridiculous, like 250MB per DAY, which equals squat. Since I have no other alternative for high speed internet, MCom is it. It still outperforms HN in every way
--
Sierra 598U/Cradlepoint CTR500, grid antenna, Millenicom, 4 XPPro and 1 Ubuntu units, FireFox everywhere.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22726188 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:23:44 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22724375 rokntroll : I don't know anything for sure and you are free to do as you wish.
Saying that I do believe if folks start to use 100 gb/month
that the sprint offer won't last too long.
I remember about 10 years ago I took a know-it-all 20 yr old to a restaurant for buffet.He would get a plate of food eat half, leave it and go get another.When I asked him what he was doing he said it was "all you can waste buffet".The all you can eat didn't last long either......]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22724375 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:05:12 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22724374 JAC : i wonder how they decided this. I think people would had been more receptive if they had announce another increase like they did a few months back, but anyway, is their marketing/image]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22724374 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:05:11 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22724181 anon : Yeah..and now their doing the same thing except charging us $10 more.

That is, if you guys are right and they'll start capping it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22724181 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:38:39 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22724137 OmegaWolf747 : At the time they advertised, it was unlimited. Sprint and VZW got greedy and changed the rules in the middle of the game. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22724137 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:30:13 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22723992 anon : Umm so? Just because it isn't their fault or controlled by them doesn't mean they can advertise their service as something it isn't.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22723992 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:17:33 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22723838 Jack_in_VA :
said by winstonplatt :

If Millenicom has yet again billed their service as unlimited without it actually being unlimited, that's their problem, not mine.

I hate their "we'll call it unlimited but it goes unsaid that it really isn't" approach. If they need to change their "unlimited" plan to a 25GB cap or something in that range, they can.
How do you figure that? Millenicom has nothing to do with the caps. That is completely controlled by the upstream carriers Verizon and Sprint and are constrained by what usage they allow. Since they are imposing caps of 5GB, 25GB is a pipe dream.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22723838 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:46:19 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22723433 anon : If Millenicom has yet again billed their service as unlimited without it actually being unlimited, that's their problem, not mine.

I hate their "we'll call it unlimited but it goes unsaid that it really isn't" approach. If they need to change their "unlimited" plan to a 25GB cap or something in that range, they can.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22723433 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:02:51 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22722843 birdwatcher : That would be 120 gig's a month! And I have to worry about how to keep mine under 5 gigs. Geeeesh!! And all hes paying is 10 bucks more than me. Kinda gets to ya. Thats all I can say.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22722843 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:18:30 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22722299 Jack_in_VA :
said by winstonplatt :

I'm on the sprint based unlimited $70 per month plan. In my first week Iv used about 30GB and haven't heard from Millenicom yet.
No need for a comment as to why we are subjected to caps. This post says it all.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22722299 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:21:27 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22722244 rokntroll : Sprint doesn't have EVDO in my area and I was hoping the unlimited would include VZW but I see that even the Sprint package won't be around for long.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22722244 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:59:18 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22722059 dMarks : Just keep quiet...we'll be able to locate those high bandwidth users soon enough...

Seriously though, even though I am slightly disgruntled by taking Jack's position in this whole thing...30GB in one week is in all honestly a bit much, eh? I hope that is not a regular occurrence. The wireless network (3g) is not quite ready to handle that kind of usage at the moment (though the blame is on the ISPs for that IMO). Change comes slowly, not overnight. Not here in the "states" at least.
--
Windows XP Pro SP3 / Windows 7 64bit RC|AMD Phenom X3 8650|Asus M3N72-D Motherboard|4GB Patriot PC2-8500 1066MHz RAM|EVGA GeForce GTS 250 1GB Ram Superclock Edition]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22722059 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 05:43:14 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22721625 blinkWRX : 30GB!? A WEEK!? HOLY JESUS! I have to ask what you downloaded lol]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22721625 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:16:00 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22721561 anon : I wonder why anyone ever got capped?!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22721561 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:57:06 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22721355 anon : I'm on the sprint based unlimited $70 per month plan. In my first week Iv used about 30GB and haven't heard from Millenicom yet.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22721355 Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:51:46 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22713928 compuguybna : I'd have to see that in writing! :-)

why would there be a different contract/cap if you owned your modem or not?

In that Case . . . Millenicom users would have bought their UM175's at the time they ordered the service . . . .

Where did you hear about that?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22713928 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:21:39 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22713743 Jim_in_VA : You can go month to month directly with Verizon if you bring your own modem (or buy one from them) ...same price 59.95. So the difference between Millenicom and Verizon has narrowed quite a bit on that service. A few bucks on taxes is about it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22713743 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:50:04 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22713530 compuguybna : If I lived in Atlanta, Las Vegas, or Portland I would! :-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22713530 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:04:37 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22713477 Test99 : I understand your frustration.

Maybe you should hire on with Clear and make WiMax happen faster.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22713477 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:53:30 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22713163 compuguybna : Man, the deeper you dig, and the more you read, the more you read.

I've found that "UNLIMITED" never ever means "UNLIMITED", period, with any wireless, satellite, or cable carrier.

Supposedly ACCEL-NETWORKS offered a "unlimited bandwidth usage" in their Fixed Wireless Solution.........Yes, UNLIMITED USE,
but LIMITED downloading. Doesn't that sort of conflict each other.

ACCEL would never truly say what the "cap" or limit was, more saying it was the "type of applications" that you were running that were
either permitted or not allowed. No streaming video from a continuous source (vid cams), no VOIP, no Citrix, no VPN....

So I found their ACCEPTABLE USE POLICY, and guess what it states? More crap about a 5GB cap.

l. Network disruptions and unfriendly activity: Using the Services for any activity that adversely affects the ability of other people or systems to use either Accel Services or other parties' Internet-based resources. This specifically but without limitation includes excessive consumption of network or system resources whether intentional or unintentional, such excessive consumption to be determined in Accel’s sole discretion, but is generally the routine use of in excess of 5GB of data per location per month.

This also includes "denial of service" (DoS) attacks against another network host or individual user. Interference with or disruption of other network users, network services or network equipment is prohibited. Accel does not support voice over IP service (VOIP) and the service is not to be used for purpose. The determination of excessive consumption of network service

so, WTF....... $149.00 a month for a 5GB cap ? ? ? ? ?

Suddenly, unlimited is suddenly 5GB now, no different than anyone else!

I guess Millenicom with no contract for $59 a month sounds pretty good after all!

GRRRRRRRRR
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22713163 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:07:07 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22710756 compuguybna : In that last post, we were talking about CONNECTION SPEEDS
1.2-1.4MBPS.

NOT CONNECTION USAGE....We'd be doing good if we only used 1.4GB! LOL]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22710756 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:29:15 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22710677 cliffmaster :
said by birdwatcher See Profile :

I check at different times of the day and am almost always at at a consistent 1.4-1.5
Same here. It is always consistent. They also said I was using between 5 and 10 GB per month and thats a bunch of bull. My verizon manager has never had me over 5GB.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22710677 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:08:34 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22710463 compuguybna : So, here's my results from a Verizon tower.

am I the only one on it ? ? ? ?

:::.. testmy.net test results ..:::
Download Connection is:: 1323 Kbps about 1.32 Mbps (tested with 1536 kB)
Download Speed is:: 161 kB/s
Upload Connection is:: 657 Kbps about 0.7 Mbps (tested with 1496 kB)
Upload Speed is:: 80 kB/s
Tested From:: »testmy.net (Main)
Test Time:: 2009/07/15 - 5:51am
D-Validation Link:: »testmy.net/stats/id-H462JBCZL
U-Validation Link:: »testmy.net/stats/id-48OC0ZP3M
User Agent:: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.0; Trident/4.0; SLCC1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506; .NET CLR 3.5.21022; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; msn OptimizedIE8;ENUS) [!]]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22710463 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:02:04 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22710456 compuguybna : I am curious . . . How do you know "I'm the only one on the tower"......

Do you have some kind of monitor for the tower utilization???]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22710456 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:00:32 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22710394 birdwatcher : I check at different times of the day and am almost always at at a consistent 1.4-1.5 so I dont think there is much strain here.
As far as that email from MC, I was surprised that I went over the 5gigs, I dont watch movies or play games, I'm not keeping the laptop online 24/7. The router shuts off at 9p.m. and back on at 6a.m. But generally I use the computer online a few times throughout the day, checking emails and some websurfing.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22710394 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 07:25:53 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22710366 Jack_in_VA :
said by birdwatcher See Profile :

Jack_in_VA I am not a heroic user, I would like to point that out.
I didn't say you were. If you think I did then I apologize. I was just pointing out that being in a rural area with a single T-1 tower might be more of a bandwidth issue than you think. Right now with my tower I appear to be the only one using it 75 percent of the time but when others are on it makes a big difference in speeds. 1.2Mb doesn't go far. The answer is more capacity. In a rural area forget it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22710366 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 07:13:51 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22710358 birdwatcher : Jack_in_VA I am not a heroic user, I would like to point that out. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22710358 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 07:09:40 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22710349 Jack_in_VA :
said by birdwatcher See Profile :

But we all got the email telling us to stay under 5 gigs, I live in a rural area and I bet there is no strain on this tower.
Towers in rural areas typically have only one T-1 line. That provides about 1.2Mb down with one user. Two users it's around 0.70Mb down, 3 users 0.40Mb down. Now if these users are on 24/7 streaming videos, downloading movies, etc then there is going to be problems with bandwidth. So thinking being in a rural area is somehow going to protect heroic usage then that IMO is very flawed reasoning. I would think that that being in a rural area would make the carriers even more sensitive in controlling bandwidth usage due to the limited availability.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22710349 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 07:07:10 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22710298 birdwatcher : But we all got the email telling us to stay under 5 gigs, I live in a rural area and I bet there is no strain on this tower.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22710298 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 06:34:14 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22710155 cliffmaster :
said by dashock333 See Profile :

And even now the 5G cap will be enforced (by the upstream carriers, not by us) in some areas and not in others. And those areas will vary from month to month depending on the amount of available bandwidth in the respective region."
This is very interesting. So Mcom has nothing to do with the enforcement ? The way I read this, is if you live in the booneys and there is no strain on the tower for EVDO use, you might be ok if you pass 5GB. For those in major cities and high use areas, your screwed. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22710155 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:53:16 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22710044 anon : Did you fill out the new unlimited request on their site? Or was it unsolicited? If you did the request on their site, how long did it take them to respond? I ask since filled out the request and haven't received an answer. I couldn't get MC two years ago, no Sprint coverage at all. I checked again when it became clear this new unlimited would be through Sprint. Much to my surprise, there is Sprint wireless broadband everywhere now. I am in a sea of orange. So I am awaiting their reply.

Can anyone give me an address to find maps of cell towers? I found a decent site once but I am now unable to find it again. Most maps I find are from 04 and such. Thanks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22710044 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:32:16 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22709634 kubel :
said by dashock333 See Profile :

I kindly told off Mcom for the *beep* that they've been pulling on us all, and then asked if I qualified for their unlimited service. We have the UM175. Here's the response,

"Your modem does not work with our unlimited plan and our existing unlimited service does not cover your location. We are enabling a new service shortly over the AWS Footprint however it may be some time before it reaches your area.

The clearly stated "no heroic usage" description on our site differentiates us from your concern that we were pulling a bait-and-switch. At the time of your sign-up we were still in negotiations with the upstream carriers and attempting to gain as much data ground as possible, so a specific cap limit wasn't possible because we did not know. And even now the 5G cap will be enforced (by the upstream carriers, not by us) in some areas and not in others. And those areas will vary from month to month depending on the amount of available bandwidth in the respective region."

Crap.
That's funny. I got word-for-word the same response regarding bait-and-switch. They also explained their reasoning for offering unlimited services and even admitted that offering unlimited is not a sustainable business practice. They just offer it for as long as their providers don't complain, and then switch to another provider that has room.

I think the right thing to do would be to offer people that bought their modem a refund on the modem itself.

Here's my response to the previous email they sent regarding their new service:

AWS sounds exciting, but if I decide not to hold off until the service is rolled out, will Millenicom honor a refund of my UM175 (I have the original contents and packaging)?

What will be the expected price of the AWS service be once it's rolled out? Has Millenicom considered offering lower cost capped AWS plans instead of (or in addition to) one unlimited plan? As I understand it, unlimited bandwidth simply isn't sustainable due to a minority of users using a majority of available bandwidth, to the point where upstream providers clamp down. Would it be more fair to clients, more sustainable for Millenicom, and more acceptable to your providers to offer a variety of capped services (for example 5GB plan for $50, 20GB plan for $60, 100GB plan for $70)- that way, clients know exactly what they are getting, and you can reign in on the minority of users that go overboard with usage? I guess what I'm saying is I might be worried that a year from now after offering unlimited service your providers will clamp down on usage as the technology becomes more widespread and towers become more saturated with users, just like it has with current generation EVDO, and that we will see another industry standard cap in a market that desires a bit more breathing room with regard to bandwidth.

Thanks.

Jeff

Their response was:

Your response makes perfect sense, however the real costs vary according to the region (unused service in Austin is free, congested service in Tulsa requires the purchase of more bandwidth in a closed market, etc) and setting any price for any capped service runs into the identical situation down the road as offering unlimited for $69.99 (our price for the Millenicom Ultra account). We have stated in our TOS the service is for personal use and not for extraordinary circumstances (like running an ISP using the unlimited signal) but, you are correct, if holographic downloads of catastrophic bandwidth becomes available in a year then it will impact our unlimited program at that time. Unlike our upstream carriers, we do not require a contract, so clients are free to leave or stay as they feel best suits their interests.

We can certainly apply your purchase of the device to the unlimited device offer we have now and so you would own it instead of the UM175, or we can apply it to the Option 452 when the Millenicom Ultra is available in your area.

The clearly stated "no heroic usage" description on our site differentiates us from your concern that we were pulling a bait-and-switch. At the time of your sign-up we were still in negotiations with the upstream carriers and attempting to gain as much data ground as possible, so a specific cap limit wasn't possible because we did not know. And even now the 5G cap will be enforced (by the upstream carriers, not by us) in some areas and not in others. And those areas will vary from month to month depending on the amount of available bandwidth in the respective region.

It is our hope that this is a satisfactory answer to the issues you raise.

Reducing the service from uncapped to capped, and then offering a higher priced service that is uncapped sounds a lot like bait and switch. Especially in my case since I invested in the modem. I'm going to press for a refund on my modem cost. I'm not falling for bait and switch. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22709634 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:43:50 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22709374 compuguybna : maybe that means if you're on a very unpopulated tower it might not make a difference.

also, some towers are served with 1 t-1 line and others are served with 2-3.

depends on the area I supposed.

But how would you ever know any of this for sure?

How would I know if my tower was served by 1 or 2 t-1 lines?
any references to that on the web? I DID find the tower on the web, and have driven right up to it to test the signal.
Best signal from the tower = 38 at home its 71]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22709374 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:47:37 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22709255 mtncat :
said by dashock333 See Profile :

And even now the 5G cap will be enforced (by the upstream carriers, not by us) in some areas and not in others. And those areas will vary from month to month depending on the amount of available bandwidth in the respective region."
That's new.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22709255 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:25:59 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22709210 compuguybna : Yeah, That definately DOES sound like a lot of crap!

Makes me think if I go to ACCEL, their "unlimited" is going to be a battle with them too since they go thru Verizon
(although they use an ethernet modem..mainly for business use).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22709210 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:18:24 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22709190 dashock333 : I kindly told off Mcom for the *beep* that they've been pulling on us all, and then asked if I qualified for their unlimited service. We have the UM175. Here's the response,

"Your modem does not work with our unlimited plan and our existing unlimited service does not cover your location. We are enabling a new service shortly over the AWS Footprint however it may be some time before it reaches your area.

The clearly stated "no heroic usage" description on our site differentiates us from your concern that we were pulling a bait-and-switch. At the time of your sign-up we were still in negotiations with the upstream carriers and attempting to gain as much data ground as possible, so a specific cap limit wasn't possible because we did not know. And even now the 5G cap will be enforced (by the upstream carriers, not by us) in some areas and not in others. And those areas will vary from month to month depending on the amount of available bandwidth in the respective region."

Crap.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22709190 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:14:54 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22708682 Jim_in_VA : Exactly kubel, that is what to do and how it works. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22708682 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:30:26 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22708613 mtncat :
said by smith10210 :

Well im about 3 miles from there coverage so i will give it a try and if my speeds are slower than with my um175/verizon i'll cancel..
Hey, if it doesn't work, can I hold it for a week on it's way back to Portland? :)

But seriously, I believe it would be worth the experimentation to get it to work.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22708613 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:14:32 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22708505 anon : Well im about 3 miles from there coverage so i will give it a try and if my speeds are slower than with my um175/verizon i'll cancel.. Also i have a freedom antenna that i use with my um175 will it work with the Franklin Wireless CDU-680? is the antenna port the same?...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22708505 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:51:59 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22708369 anon : I just got an email saying i qualify for the unlimited service and im getting sent a new modem to replace my um 175... I called about 2 weeks ago and talked to Dennis and he said i was way to far so im stumped... Is this unlimited service with sprint? because im not even close to there coverage area and i will probably have a shitty download and upload speeds?.... Im a mile away from the Verizon tower now and have 2.6 download/.70 upload and would rather have a faster connection and be capped than to have above dial-up speeds and unlimited... Anyway one know???]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22708369 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:34:59 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22707153 anon : Add another whiner to the list.....I received the same email, supposedly 5-10GB's per month. I knew it was too good to last, I mainly bought it because I need to RDP to work and manage the servers when home. My ATT Phone doesn't have 3G where I live so connection speeds suck on that, compared to the USB modem.

I'll definately be cutting back on my use and am going to be looking for another provider.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22707153 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:27:55 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22706436 JAC : Well, just like anything else. But somewhere they should have looked at the chance of this happening. Is just bad planning. Also it would be nice to get an official statement from them, so we are not speculating so much..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22706436 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:30:55 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22706312 Jack_in_VA :
said by Max Signal See Profile :

Millenicom has no control over the limits . They are just a reseller for the Carriers . Sprint and Verizon have all the control . The fact is you have no contract and neither do they. Both sides go month to month . So the terms can change and both parties can choose to end the relationship at any time.
What is really sad is that Millenicom really did try but a few users abused the system to such an extent that everyone got punished. I feel for both sides, but not much anyone can do. Sprint and Verizon own the ball and bat . The end user and Millenicom just got to use it. Now they can use it but they have to use it as the carriers wish
Max you are exactly right. It only takes a very few to impact many. To continuously blame Millenicom is for some trying to shift the blame from their actions that caused the problem in the first place.

There's nothing we can do now but live with it. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22706312 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:08:28 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22706022 Max Signal : Millenicom has no control over the limits . They are just a reseller for the Carriers . Sprint and Verizon have all the control . The fact is you have no contract and neither do they. Both sides go month to month . So the terms can change and both parties can choose to end the relationship at any time.
What is really sad is that Millenicom really did try but a few users abused the system to such an extent that everyone got punished. I feel for both sides, but not much anyone can do. Sprint and Verizon own the ball and bat . The end user and Millenicom just got to use it. Now they can use it but they have to use it as the carriers wish]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22706022 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:20:42 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22705173 compuguybna : The link to VIEW their BBB report says "UNAVAILABLE" now. . .

but the LINK to COMPLAIN works and takes you right to the forms.

But If I know the BBB when I was dealing with Hughes is that the BBB can rarely do ANYTHING, They can just forward Millenicom the complaint and wait for their answer.

Most of the cases that aren't solved are "ADMINISTRATIVELY CLOSED"...meaning there was no solution on either end.

STILL, though, with enough BBB complaints, maybe Millenicom will see that they're not their customers fair..

Of course, millenicom's response would probably be..... "you're not on a contract, cancel it".]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22705173 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:17:35 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22705095 birdwatcher : You know its just frustrating when I've only had this service for about 3 months! Of course I am angry, I am not a "heroic" user. I like to occasionally watch a streaming video , not movie, just a short video. Now I cannot even do that. If all I wanted to do was a little web surfing, I could have done that on AOL for 9.99/month. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22705095 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:07:23 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22704780 compuguybna : Maybe we should all go to the Better Business Bureau site and make complaints towards Millenicom for doing this...

»www.portland.bbb.org/Find-Business-Reviews/

Type in MILLENICOM in the search field.

I tried to look up their record, but the server responded 'TOO BUSY"....Weird. Couldn't be that many people on their system...Maybe they're all complaining about Millenicom! LOL]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22704780 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:18:02 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22704482 cliffmaster :
said by kubel See Profile :

I sent Millenicom an email explaining that I would really like to see multiple capped services (5GB, 20GB, 100GB would be really neat) - something that is sustainable and won't end up pissing off users when a low cap is put in place once it's discovered that a minority of users are using a majority of bandwidth.
This would be the way to go in my book. Give us an option to purchase a plan]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22704482 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:22:26 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22704182 kubel :
said by cliffmaster See Profile :

said by kubel See Profile :

We have another unlimited account coming out within a week or so, the Millenicom Ultra,
Can someone tell me more about this Ultra service ? Does it use Verizon ?
No. Millenicom said it would be their own system, but chances are, they are still reselling AWS, which is currently vastly controlled by T-Mobile, who is trying to rebirth the concept of wireless cable.

If they offer unlimited plans, in a year from now when the technology really takes off, we will be in the same boat as the current-generation EVDO plans- getting a cap of whatever the big guys decide should be an industry standard.

Unlimited bandwidth is unsustainable. It's like oil. It's not a sustainable resource. Eventually, it will dry up. And when it does, what's left over is rationed, and everyone gets screwed.

I sent Millenicom an email explaining that I would really like to see multiple capped services (5GB, 20GB, 100GB would be really neat) - something that is sustainable and won't end up pissing off users when a low cap is put in place once it's discovered that a minority of users are using a majority of bandwidth. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22704182 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:59:11 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22704158 Test99 :
said by cliffmaster See Profile :

Can someone tell me more about this Ultra service ? Does it use Verizon ?
Read further back in this thread. The speculation is that this is T-Mobile's HSPA service. There's also a list of areas that have coverage.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22704158 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:29:55 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22704144 Test99 :
said by kubel See Profile :

I won't spoil Jim's blog post by providing the details and links to useful software, but it involves getting a Windows phone with unlimited data
An interesting idea!

I use the Sprint USB modem for almost all my communication. When I'm at home I plug it into an always-on computer that acts as a router. Via ICS, that computer shares the connection with other computers and IP phones. I have no land line phone; pay-as-you-go VOIP provides very low-cost phone service.

Away from home, I plug the modem into a Dell netbook that has a soft phone on it. Incoming calls ring (or try to ring) the IP phones at home, the soft phone on the netbook, and a cell phone simultaneously. I answer whichever is convenient.

I use the cell phone only when away from both home and the netbook, or where the Sprint EVDO signal is weak. I have very few cell phone calls, and for those I use T-Mobile's 10 cents per minute prepaid service.

The netbook and modem are great for navigation when I'm away from home. Google Earth is better than any map.

This setup wouldn't work well if there was someone at home when I had taken the modem, because there would be neither phone nor Internet service there. But it works for a one-person household.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22704144 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:17:50 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22704143 cliffmaster :
said by kubel See Profile :

We have another unlimited account coming out within a week or so, the Millenicom Ultra,
Can someone tell me more about this Ultra service ? Does it use Verizon ?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22704143 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:17:11 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22704094 kubel : Sorry for multiple posts, just got a fast email response from Millenicom:

We certainly understand the frustration regarding this issue.

If you choose to go with the unlimited plan we will certainly apply the device purchase to the device we would send to you (of course you would need to ship your current device back to us, along with its case and contents).

We have another unlimited account coming out within a week or so, the Millenicom Ultra, that is just outside your location but is growing rapidly. If you can keep your usage close to the 5G range for the time being then we recommend you hold off and wait for this service to reach you. It will be on our own system (using the AWS Footprint), use a different device (the Option 452 with a max download speed of 7.2M and upload of 5.26M, which should translate to speeds faster than you experience now) and no contract. There is a device purchase requirement of $149.99 and we will apply your $99.99 toward that end.

So there are two unlimited plans? The one plan available now for $10 extra per month, and another plan available in the future for $150 device purchase? I'm going to see how this plays out. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22704094 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:36:44 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22704082 kubel : Test99,

I won't spoil Jim's blog post by providing the details and links to useful software, but it involves getting a Windows phone with unlimited data (plans with voice usually cost under $80/mo), and then using Internet Connection Sharing (or a program that offers a work around for phones that have that feature disabled) that shares that connection over the phones built-in WiFi radio. Then you just connect to the phone as if it were a WiFi access point.

It works very well, it's affordable since it's usually included with most smart phones, but the hardware of the phone may restrict bandwidth down to less-than-USB-device speeds.

But it's a very cheap alternative (because it's bundled with your cell phone expenses) and offers truly unlimited bandwidth. It's even cheaper if you are grandfathered into low-cost unlimited data plans.

I'm going to see if I can convince my brother to add a line to his Sprint account (costs him $10) and then work out a deal to split the bill in half. That way we both get a great deal. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22704082 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:31:10 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22704070 kubel : I just got the same email everyone else did. I'm happy that they finally came out and made it official. They claim I was between 5GB and 10GB. Last month I was I think around 7GB.

My response:

I wasn't aware of this restriction when I signed up and invested in the modem buy option. In fact, the email I received when signing up stated "we don't have a usage cap" (the reason I decided to sign up with Millenicom). I understand unlimited bandwidth is an impossibility, but using less than 10GB over the course of a month does not sound unreasonable to me.

Will those of us that signed up before this cap was imposed be grandfathered into the unlimited plan?

Or will you offer a refund on the modem that some of us purchased after being told there were no caps?

You'll have to forgive me when I say that I almost feel as if this was a bait and switch.

I appreciate your patience in reading this email, and hope you understand I don't intend any disrespect.

Thanks.

Jeff

I don't intent spending another penny for unlimited service, especially that's what I'm supposed to be getting in the first place. I'll be happy if they just accept a refund on my device and let me ship it back to them and cancel my account.

If not, I'll continue using it less-than-heroically. If I'm hassled about overuse and pressured to upgrade for truly unlimited service, it will smell a lot like bait and switch (it already does). I'll waft some of that stench towards the folks at Mastercard. They will probably want to issue a chargeback if they can't mediate a return/refund. But I'm sure the folks at Millenicom are good, decent, reasonable people and will agree to a refund.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22704070 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:17:13 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22703172 Test99 :
said by dMarks See Profile :

Just received an email stating I'm now on the unlimited plan.
Ditto.

I have a Sprint modem.

No indications yet of what the limits on this second-generation "unlimited" plan are.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22703172 Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:19:45 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22702845 compuguybna : Will this be something like ACCEL-NETWORKS fixed wireless?

$99 activation - $149 a month?

sounds tempting, but pricey. "Unlimited business-class" they advertise.

But it would be cheaper to just buy two millenicom accounts.

But the question still remains......Have people that went like 5.5gb total got a letter . . . Or do you have to be grossly over the 10gb limit.

i've heard people recently went "up to 10", and were told not to worry. (meaning they just went over 1 month not EVERY month)........]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22702845 Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:17:36 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22702719 Jim_in_VA : dashock,

The $199 fee and plan is something totally different. Not the same as what is currently offered. MC has yet to post that on their site.
--
... need help? »evdo-tips.com/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22702719 Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:57:00 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22702408 mtncat : Things are definitely pointing in that direction... Still no link to unlimited service on the Millenicom site. I've not received any sort of email concerning this, but I did request to be enrolled in the unlimited plan via Jim's link (earlier in this thread), but haven't received any reply. Maybe they are just targeting people in this forum. I dunno]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22702408 Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:48:32 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22702407 compuguybna : Yeah, I have the UM175 on Verizon towers too.

So I wont be able to be "unlimited" even if I pay $10.00 ? ? ?

I rarely go over 5gb, but knowing I could is nice.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22702407 Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:48:31 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22702363 compuguybna : So, did the Franklin device operate off a Sprint Tower?

I have the UM175/Verizon Tower.

I have absolutely NO sprint coverage here.

so, not worth my time I guess to upgrade.

That's really not fair either telling us we could upgrade to "unlimited" for $10 with out providing the details.

So, its NOT unlimited with the UM175/Verizon/$10 upgrade????]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22702363 Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:36:55 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22702321 compuguybna : I dont think that's it. I seen no mention of
UNLIMITED WIRELESS INTERNET.

It might be this one. they offer unlimited usage on Sprint Towers for $69.99

Cyberonic Internet Communications, Inc
www.cyberonic.com]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22702321 Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:27:43 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22702276 mtncat : Just searched Fleabay for Franklin CDU680 and someone is selling 45 of them for $900. Wonder if Millenicom would reconsider the bring your own device for the unlimited offer...

If anyone buys them... cut me a deal for one??]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22702276 Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:20:31 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22702084 dMarks : Just received an email stating I'm now on the unlimited plan. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22702084 Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:46:48 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22702051 dashock333 : OK, so the sprint customers get right in but those on verizon are out? I have the pantech bc sprint doesn't cover my area, so can I still get unlimited?

And Jim, I thought you said there was $199.99 activation fee? None of the ppl on here have mentioned paying an activation fee when getting unlimited, and the Mcom page doesn't say that.

This is all BS and that's putting it nicely.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22702051 Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:40:52 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22701290 my2k2zx2 : Filled out the Unlimted form this morning and just got the email I'm in the unlimited play. Was charged $10, guess it isnt pro-rated for this month?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22701290 Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:25:15 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22698730 cliffmaster :
said by A Customer :

Because the white modem is the Pantech (Verizon) and the "unlimited" option uses the Franklin (Sprint). If you already have a Franklin CDU-680 they can just provision it. If not, they will have to mail one to you.

Well I guess I'm screwed because I am not within Sprints Broadband coverage area according to their map. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22698730 Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:32:30 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22697585 dMarks : Ahh, just checked members section on Millenicom site. I see the note there. We can now officially declare Millenicom is a 5GB provider (unless you are lucky enough to get on the Unlimited plan. I've sent an email to get on it).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22697585 Mon, 13 Jul 2009 03:02:06 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22697570 dMarks : Just checked my email...none from MCom about this atm.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22697570 Mon, 13 Jul 2009 02:56:36 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22697484 anon : Because the white modem is the Pantech (Verizon) and the "unlimited" option uses the Franklin (Sprint). If you already have a Franklin CDU-680 they can just provision it. If not, they will have to mail one to you.

said by kllmkmkl :

My connection device is white: Yes: No:

If "yes", do you have an unused Franklin CDU-680 in your possession?

These are from the new unlimited sign up page. Why would they ask these questions?
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22697484 Mon, 13 Jul 2009 01:50:12 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22697465 anon : So has anyone who uses Sprint get this new email? Anyone had luck upgrading their account to this new "unlimited
account? If so, what service is it?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22697465 Mon, 13 Jul 2009 01:40:10 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22697471 anon : My connection device is white: Yes: No:

If "yes", do you have an unused Franklin CDU-680 in your possession?

These are from the new unlimited sign up page. Why would they ask these questions?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22697471 Mon, 13 Jul 2009 01:40:09 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22697119 patrick1853 : I recieved the same email, except I was in the 5-10 GB range. Since neither Millenicom's connection manger or the Verizon connection manager ever seem to work, it has been a little hard to keep up with my usage. I'm going to give the monitor they mention in their email a try. Hopefully it will work since I use ICS to connect our other computer.

We are actually very mild users as far as I can see. No video, limited gaming ( a few hours a week at the most), a few audio podcasts, and general web browsing.

For the time being, I'm going to cut out the gaming and drop back to one or two podcasts (about 15mb each or roughly 1GB total for a month). I'm not sure what else would have pushed our usage over 5gb but we will see. On our previous satellite connection, we used on average 3GB a month and our usage hasn't really changed since then. It may just be a case of increased usage due to better connection quality.

I wish millenicom would have provided terms in regards to what happens if you go over (overage charges, get cut off for the remainder of the billing period, reduced speeds, etc.). Also, since it appears everyone is billed at the first of the month, wouldn't it have made sense to make this change effective at that time, rather than nearly half way through the month?

I don't so much mind the change since it is still equal or better than buying directly from verizon which requires a contract, but I am slightly annoyed with what appears to either a lack of professionalism or communication with customers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22697119 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:33:06 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22696648 Jim_in_VA : To clarify and serve up the latest email from Millenciom:

Due to high usage concerns from our upstream carriers our $59.99/month mobile broadband service is now required to conform to the industry standard 5 gigabyte cap for data transfer over one months time.



For most of our clients this will not impact their Internet experience, however for many we understand that this will cause a hardship.



Millenicom has moved forward with implementing an unlimited account for $69.99/month. If you are interested in this modification to your account please submit the form from the following link: »www.millenicom.com/unlimitedrequest.htm

Some of our users have found the following software helpful in tracking their data usage: www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/win/138586

Please note in the last billing period your usage was in the following range: under 5 GB]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22696648 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:17:36 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22692091 Jim_in_VA : I think that would be a pretty good pass of the "duck test"
--
... need help? »evdo-tips.com/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22692091 Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:26:53 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22691834 xrayman : If you compare the AWS Footprint as posted above by Jim_in_VA to the T-Mobile 3G footprint they are close. T-Mobile uses GSM/HSDPA for their new 3G data service and it is on the 1700 and 2100MHz bands they got in the AWS spectrum auction.

Analysis of the AWS Spectrum: »econ-server.umd.edu/~vegh/course···anqi.pdf
T-Mobile 3G/AWS news articles:
»74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:o0d···eall_aws
»www.engadgetmobile.com/2006/10/0···g-plans/
T-Mobile 3G coverage: »www.t-mobile.com/coverage/pcc.aspx

Applying the duck test, it sounds like the new unlimited AWS service could be a contract with T-Mobile. Just speculation.

Edits: To add and update links and text.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22691834 Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:12:33 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22691185 Jack_in_VA : Thanks Max.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22691185 Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:04:20 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22691163 Max Signal : HSDPA is the GSM version of 3G high speed Data . EVDO is the CDMA version of 3G high Speed Data
--
www.MaximumSignal.Net]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22691163 Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:58:01 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22691144 Jack_in_VA :
said by Max Signal See Profile :

Maybe the new provider Is HSDPA and not EVDO . That would explain not being in all markets and a different footprint . That would mean new devices though too.
Max, what is HSDPA? Out here in the boonies we don't get exposed to the new stuff.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22691144 Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:53:38 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22691108 Max Signal : Maybe the new provider Is HSDPA and not EVDO . That would explain not being in all markets and a different footprint . That would mean new devices though too.
--
www.MaximumSignal.Net]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22691108 Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:45:09 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22690827 anon : Yeah maybe only 1% will get AWS unlimited, but it seems like the sprint based unlimited will be more widely available.

Strangely though, when I asked before about weather my unlimited account would be running off sprint or verizon, they said a "different footprint" which would suggest AWS. but of course i got the franklin modem and my town isn't on the AWS list posted above.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22690827 Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:20:02 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22690622 Jack_in_VA : Thank you :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22690622 Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:55:42 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22690588 Test99 : I'm happy for you.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22690588 Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:40:33 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22690580 Jack_in_VA : I don't have any problems with the information I get from Millenicom. I pay them $59/mo, they provide me with excellent wireless internet service. When I have a question I contact them and receive an answer. The few actual hardware problems which all have been tower outages I've had have been resolved by Sprint who by the way have always responded in a timely courteous manner even with follow up phone calls.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22690580 Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:36:24 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22690542 Test99 : A willingness to give customers reliable information about what is actually going on is sorely lacking at Millenicom. They could learn something about openness and transparency from TSI.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22690542 Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:22:18 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22690524 Jack_in_VA : What does generators, UPS, fiber have to do with wireless internet? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22690524 Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:14:32 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22689952 Test99 : So there appears to be more than one "unlimited" package in the works at Millenicom, in addition to their original now-devalued "unlimited" offerings. All offerings are "unlimited", but some are more "unlimited" than others.

Millenicom-watching is becoming a discipline all on its own, analogous to Kremlin-watching during the cold war.

For comparison, to see what an open and transparent Internet provider looks like, try sampling TSI's posts to their forum: »Fire & Upgrade recap/update .]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22689952 Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:20:05 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22689890 jane8851 : This is a partial copy/paste of my account package at Millenicom. It was indeed a Franklin.

Select Package:
Status: Active
Package: Mobile Broadband - Unlimited
Email 1 Username:
Email 1 Password:
Email 2 Username:
Email 2 Password:
Device Type: Franklin CDU 680

Different from my original package which uses the Pantech:

Status: Active
Package: Wireless Broadband
Email 1 Username:
Email 1 Password:
Email 2 Username:
Email 2 Password: ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22689890 Sat, 11 Jul 2009 00:49:57 EDT AWS http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22689867 Test99 : The FCC on AWS: »wireless.fcc.gov/services/index.···e&id=aws
List of AWS spectrum owners: »telephonyonline.com/mag/telecom_···all_aws/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22689867 Sat, 11 Jul 2009 00:42:24 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22689450 Jim_in_VA : afraid not ...but as soon as I get off my a** and finish my article on how to get *unlimited, it will be easier on your wallet
--
... need help? »evdo-tips.com/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22689450 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:49:14 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22689405 blinkWRX : well that figures... i hate where i live.. well i love it but I HATE VERIZON!!! only thing good about them is their nationwide messaging plan.

thanks for the info Jim_in_VA

EDIT: any chance millenicom will drop $20 off the 5gb capped plan? i can afford 10GB if they do :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22689405 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:39:03 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22689380 Jim_in_VA : np cooljay]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22689380 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:34:06 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22689372 Jim_in_VA : Unlimited availability:
AWS Footprin···.doc.zip 29,963 bytes
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22689372 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:32:25 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22689370 cooljay :
said by Jim_in_VA See Profile :

That help?
Yes, it does actually and provides more to us as a forum and community than just saying 99% of people won't be able to get it.

It's not that I don't believe in what you say but I've seen people say the same things before in the past that have been wrong and before I believe something like that I just like to hear a little bit of proof is all :), hope you understand what I'm saying.
--
Mobile Broadband EVDO Rev. A via Pantech UM175 (Millenicom)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22689370 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:32:16 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22689291 dMarks :
said by mcomuser :

hey, now that's news... i don't doubt what you're saying, as your reputation is beyond reproach. although jane8851 mentioned that she had received the franklin with the understanding that it was for the unlimited plan.

Millenicom and it's crazy enigmas.... spies everywhere, i tell you!
Yeah, I went back to the page before this one because I was sure I had read someone getting the unlimited plan and being sent a CDU-680, unless jane was mistaken.
--
Windows XP Pro SP3 / Windows 7 64bit RC|AMD Phenom X3 8650|Asus M3N72-D Motherboard|4GB Patriot PC2-8500 1066MHz RAM|EVGA GeForce GTS 250 1GB Ram Superclock Edition]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22689291 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:14:30 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22689206 anon : hey, now that's news... i don't doubt what you're saying, as your reputation is beyond reproach. although jane8851 mentioned that she had received the franklin with the understanding that it was for the unlimited plan.

Millenicom and it's crazy enigmas.... spies everywhere, i tell you!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22689206 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:58:18 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22689161 Jim_in_VA : Sorry, I can't betray a confidence. But I will tell you this much. 99% of the forum posters live in areas that have no DSL or cable options. This service is available predominantly in metro areas. It requires a totally different modem that works on the AWS frequency. It is not Sprint or Verizon, and is GSM based. Details:

The cost is a one-time $199.99 (includes purchase of the device and activation fee), the monthly service fee is $69.99. There is no contract (can close at any time), unlimited and can be put on "vacation" for up to 2 months during any 12 month period.

That help?
--
... need help? »evdo-tips.com/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22689161 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:47:24 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22689102 cooljay :
said by Jim_in_VA See Profile :

..I have my sources. I don't need to "prove" anything.
Well if you aren't willing to provide proof on how you "know" that 99% of the people using this forum won't be able to get the unlimited service I will take your statement at the face value of what it is without proof which is: Nothing.

You can't simply post something saying "Oh I know this!" without any proof and expect people to believe it. So if you're going to post something like this in the future, please don't post it without proof to back up your claim or if you do post please provide proof with your statement and it will be taken more serious.
--
Mobile Broadband EVDO Rev. A via Pantech UM175 (Millenicom)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22689102 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:32:32 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22689071 Jim_in_VA : ..I have my sources. I don't need to "prove" anything.
--
... need help? »evdo-tips.com/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22689071 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:26:41 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22689039 cooljay :
said by Jim_in_VA See Profile :

99% of the people who post in this forum will not be able to get the "unlimited" Millenicom service when it is announced on Monday July 13
And you know this how? Please provide proof when you give out such numbers other wise most people will just think you're pulling that number out of thin air.
--
Mobile Broadband EVDO Rev. A via Pantech UM175 (Millenicom)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22689039 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:18:19 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22688996 Jim_in_VA : 99% of the people who post in this forum will not be able to get the "unlimited" Millenicom service when it is announced on Monday July 13
--
... need help? »evdo-tips.com/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22688996 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:10:37 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22688790 anon :
said by rokntroll See Profile :

Sent email today about unlimited,they said I am out of area for it.Sprint here is 1xrtt only so maybe only Sprint available..???
bet i can guess which network all the heroes are gonna be on... wish i could be a hero :(

maybe this will take some load off the verizon towers and they'll give us UM175 users some slack]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22688790 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:19:41 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22688664 rokntroll : I have sprint phone no evdo for 30 miles]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22688664 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:49:24 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22688336 Test99 : Does »coverage.sprint.com "Data, Email and Multimedia" show an orange area near you? An antenna/amplifier might let you access it, so long as it is within timing range: about 11 miles.

Disclaimer: Sprint coverage maps aren't always accurate.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22688336 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:40:30 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22688249 rokntroll : Sent email today about unlimited,they said I am out of area for it.Sprint here is 1xrtt only so maybe only Sprint available..???]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22688249 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:24:06 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22687672 dMarks : I do agree though that the issue jane8851 See Profile is having is more to do with poor signal quality than anything that could be done with setting a different HA. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22687672 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:41:20 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22687632 dMarks : Speed tests may or may not give you much insight into what exactly is happening with your routing when choosing an HA. Depending on what you wish to do with your connection, changing the HA does provide better results.

Here's 2 tracerts to this website. First one uses the Chicago HA I have set on my CDU.


This is with my HA set to San Jose, CA. Notice the different route it takes, and the higher ms time at the end. Also adds another hop.


Not exactly the best example, but you get the picture. It could be much worse with other sites, or it could be better. Depends mainly on what you use your connection for. For example, if you play online games, for best results, you would want to set your HA to the closest one to where the servers are located.

People who don't use their connection much outside of browsing and checking email probably won't care about any improvements this could make for them, as long as they can get online and browse.

--
Windows XP Pro SP3 / Windows 7 64bit RC|AMD Phenom X3 8650|Asus M3N72-D Motherboard|4GB Patriot PC2-8500 1066MHz RAM|EVGA GeForce GTS 250 1GB Ram Superclock Edition]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22687632 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:36:08 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22684739 Jack_in_VA :
said by dMarks See Profile :

You can change your HA to somewhere closer to where you live. Despite what Jack said, the HA you route to DOES actually make a difference in speed / latency. I know when I switched from the LA HA to the Chicago HA, my latency and speed improved. Not drastically perhaps, but there was a noticeable improvement.

You can find how to change your HA by going to this link: »Evdo Tweaks and Tuning

You can get your MSL by going to the Millencom page and logging in to the Members section. Look under Client Info / Packages
I have spent months changing my HA to other locations with little to no difference in performance. It has more to do with how busy the server is where you are doing your speed test. like I said earlier you probably need to improve your signal. My signal right now is -71 dBm and I'm apparently the only one on my tower this morning. Two users usually gives my about 700 down.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22684739 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:22:27 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22684361 dMarks :
said by Jack_in_VA See Profile :

I don't see that Millenicom is any sort of jam of any kind. I do see a handful of heroic users that have been thwarted by yet another ISP. That is hardly a Millenicom problem. Millenicom fully meets the needs of the vast majority of its subscribers.

The answer for those who need this bandwidth is to move to an area with FiOS or cable internet. There is no way that satellite or wireless can physically meet their needs.
In regards to the underlined part of this quote, my response to this would be "pay for what it would cost for me to buy a new place, move there, and set up service" because, you know, some people really don't have a choice as to where they live. Especially in this economy. I know I certainly can't afford to move...and to do so just for a different internet service would be quite ridiculous indeed. Just sayin...

I don't consider myself a heroic user...I consider myself someone who uses the internet on a daily basis, whether it be for study, work, entertainment, etc... and I don't feel one bit guilty about doing so if I happen to go over the as-yet unofficial cap for my device. Yes, once I actually do get an email stating there's a cap, then I'll upgrade my service to unlimited since I apparently don't need to swap out my device for it.

said by jane8851 See Profile :

I meant the Franklin settings kept saying I was roaming, not Speedtest. Speedtest kept showing the nearest server to be in Los Angeles CA and I'm in NY. Something was not right but tech support said it was OK. Speeds of .10 are not OK with me though and I went back to the limited Pantech.
You can change your HA to somewhere closer to where you live. Despite what Jack said, the HA you route to DOES actually make a difference in speed / latency. I know when I switched from the LA HA to the Chicago HA, my latency and speed improved. Not drastically perhaps, but there was a noticeable improvement.

You can find how to change your HA by going to this link: »Evdo Tweaks and Tuning

You can get your MSL by going to the Millencom page and logging in to the Members section. Look under Client Info / Packages

EDIT: The HA change is for Sprint devices. I don't know if VZW has anything that can be changed in regards to that, or if they even use the same system that Sprint does.

EDIT #2: From what it sounds like though, your issue may be more than just an HA location. Speed / Latency like that would indicate a poor signal, 1xRTT speed, and / or a lot of interference in your location that would send your error rate skyrocketing.

--
Windows XP Pro SP3 / Windows 7 64bit RC|AMD Phenom X3 8650|Asus M3N72-D Motherboard|4GB Patriot PC2-8500 1066MHz RAM|EVGA GeForce GTS 250 1GB Ram Superclock Edition]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22684361 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:49:30 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22684228 Jack_in_VA :
said by jane8851 See Profile :

I meant the Franklin settings kept saying I was roaming, not Speedtest. Speedtest kept showing the nearest server to be in Los Angeles CA and I'm in NY. Something was not right but tech support said it was OK. Speeds of .10 are not OK with me though and I went back to the limited Pantech.
L.A. is where your modem dials into. It doesn't make any difference where that is. I'm on the eastern shore of Virginia and speedtest says I'm in L.A. (50 miles),and here's my speedtest results:



If I select Kansas City (1350 miles) for the speedtest the results are the same.



Your low speeds probably are due to low signal. Try a grid antenna. Jim_in_VA can give you some good advice. Ask him.

Be aware that if you are on a tower with a single T-1 you will see about 1.2 MB down max with nobody else on it. Add users and the speeds will drop.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22684228 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 06:28:45 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22684071 Test99 : This server gives additional information. (Java required.)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22684071 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 03:25:22 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22683996 anon : I'm on sprint too and speedtest said I was hundreds of miles away from where a was. When I used the server they recommended the speeds were around 1MBPS. Using a not-recommended server that's actually close to me my speeds are now closer to 2MBPS]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22683996 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 03:04:58 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22683990 Test99 :
said by jane8851 See Profile :

The Franklin was getting .10 download with 1569 ping!
I have been getting numbers like that in a remote location. I'm awaiting the arrival of an antenna and amplifier. Hopefully it will make a big difference.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22683990 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:25:19 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22683985 jane8851 : I meant the Franklin settings kept saying I was roaming, not Speedtest. Speedtest kept showing the nearest server to be in Los Angeles CA and I'm in NY. Something was not right but tech support said it was OK. Speeds of .10 are not OK with me though and I went back to the limited Pantech.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22683985 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:23:05 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22683961 jane8851 : I'm rural on the fringe of Sprint coverage. The Franklin was getting .10 download with 1569 ping! I'm in NY and when I ran Speedtest it kept saying I was in CA and I was roaming??? Tech support didn't have any answers and I finally gave up. With the Pantech I get 1.25 download and 86 ping. Also lists my location correctly on Speedtest.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22683961 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:12:56 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22683922 anon : Yeah I'v got the unlimited service.

I'm in an area that's well within sprint mobile broadband coverage, according to their map. I don't have any amplifier or antenna and I'm getting full bars

my speeds are around 1.8 MBPS down.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22683922 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:57:42 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22683869 anon : Guys, This crazy if this was power that they were limiting you would be going crazy and every one would be on the streets. They all are this with the government. China filters we cap, see it for what it is. I was on the sprint unlimited and they kicked me out of the nasty little sprint club for using 17gb a month. Now have Millenicom. We will see how long i get to keep it until I get kicked again. Guys something has to give I only have 1 more option and that is back to dial up. The ISP's have got us in a corner and we have no one to help. Everyone just needs to shut off there internet in unity and let them go out of business. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22683869 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:44:07 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22683632 blinkWRX : did you use an amp/antenna?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22683632 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:15:28 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22683616 Test99 : You signed up for the $70 per month unlimited service, right?

Are you in a rural area, a town, or a city? (I'm not trying to be nosey; just trying to figure out where the unlimited service is available.) What kind of speeds are you getting?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22683616 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:12:13 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22683564 anon : Before going back to your capped pantech you might want to try getting an antenna/amplifier. Find a place where you can return it if it doesn't end up working.

I got the franklin from millenicom today and it's been working great.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22683564 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:00:42 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22682172 Test99 : You can use an antenna and/or an amplifier to get better throughput with a weak signal. »evdotips.blogspot.com/ has lots of information on this. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22682172 Thu, 09 Jul 2009 19:07:25 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22682090 jane8851 : I received the Franklin today for the new Unlimited. Was on the phone with support and then customer service. Speeds were so bad I canceled the account and went back to using my Pantech (limited) account with them. I guess I'm too far from the Sprint coverage. If the unlimited worked it would have been great but it was like dialup slooowww. Tech support said about my old account, just stay under 10GB and customer service said 5GB. Don't know what to think.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22682090 Thu, 09 Jul 2009 18:49:45 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22681348 birdwatcher : I signed on because they told me it was unlimited. Period. Then I only hear about the cap on this message board. It would be nice to view a movie once in a while or streaming video on youtube, but I'm too afraid to now that I read these posts. I think 59. a month is alot of money for internet service, considering my family who all live in towns that provide verizon dsl can watch anything they want with out being capped. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22681348 Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:23:49 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22681254 anon : jeez.. i think i've gone over 5GB just following the Millenicom drama here.

anyone get the unlimited with verizon device??]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22681254 Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:14:44 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22681184 mooch :
said by Jack_in_VA See Profile :

I wonder if these same people react the same way when they see the speed limit is 55 MPH and they want to go 85 MPH? Some go 85 and some gets a ticket, It's the same principle. We as a society have to have rules to limit those who never consider the effect of their actions on others. It's all about them regardless of the consequences to others trying to utilize the service.
Your attempt at conveying on an applicable analogy falls short of missing the mark. I've not seen any speed limit signs that say things like "go however fast you want, but don't be too heroic" or "we're not sure how fast you should be going but if you happen to go over the limit, we'll let you know" LOL!
--
ex Hughesnet customer - thank goodness!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22681184 Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:54:17 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22681160 mooch : MC continued to claim that they had "unlimited" service with no caps well AFTER the company they buy their bandwidth from does enact a cap. MC then get's slapped by Sprint and Verizon for using to much bandwidth which results in them needing to backpedal on their "unlimited" marketing ploy and you DON'T consider this as putting themselves into any kind of a jam??!

What is just as frustrating is that even when they realize that they have to do something they don't actually come out give clear guidelines as to what the cap is but rather dance around the issue and make conflicting statements as to what kind of cap we have.

Millenicom sends all of us an email every month saying they have billed our credit card for the month. Why is it that they can't specify in one of those monthly emails what the actual cap is? I'll tell you why...it relates directly back to their deceptive marketing practices and they want to avoid spelling out what the cap is to ALL of their customers as they want to avoid scaring anyone off.

Some folks such as yourself apparently admire this kind of behavior in a company...I don't.
--
ex Hughesnet customer - thank goodness!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22681160 Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:49:43 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22681093 Jack_in_VA : I addressed your statement that Millenicom was in a jam. Millenicom is not in any kind of a jam. Who is in a jam are those who have run out of ISP options as they've been through them all with the same result. Their needs do not fit with the operating ISP's business model or capabilities.

No company can operate a satellite or wireless ISP and allow the type behavior some insist on doing.

I wonder if these same people react the same way when they see the speed limit is 55 MPH and they want to go 85 MPH? Some go 85 and some gets a ticket, It's the same principle. We as a society have to have rules to limit those who never consider the effect of their actions on others. It's all about them regardless of the consequences to others trying to utilize the service.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22681093 Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:36:05 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22681074 mooch : Only a year ago, Dennis Castle was stating Millenicom had no caps even after Sprint and Verizon had implemented caps for quite some time. Here's the thread (below)...how is it that MC continued to market themselves as not having a cap even after they knew that the service they were reselling had a cap? MC is either very good at underhanded marketing or they were very ignorant as to what was going on with Sprint and Verizon.

»Millenicom - 5GB Cap
--
ex Hughesnet customer - thank goodness!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22681074 Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:32:38 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22680875 mooch :
said by Jack_in_VA See Profile :

I don't see that Millenicom is any sort of jam of any kind. I do see a handful of heroic users that have been thwarted by yet another ISP. That is hardly a Millenicom problem. Millenicom fully meets the needs of the vast majority of its subscribers.

The answer for those who need this bandwidth is to move to an area with FiOS or cable internet. There is no way that satellite or wireless can physically meet their needs.
Is that a reply to my comments or just more millenicom cheerleader antics?

It's apparently not a response to my comments about their questionable marketing practices as you're not addressing any of my points but rather just regurgitating more MC propaganda talk. If you don't have any issues with a company deliberately misleading you by essentially using bait and switch marketing tactics then there's not much we have to talk about.

Carry on with the pom pom session! Sis boom rah!!!!
--
ex Hughesnet customer - thank goodness!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22680875 Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:56:44 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22680768 Jack_in_VA : I don't see that Millenicom is any sort of jam of any kind. I do see a handful of heroic users that have been thwarted by yet another ISP. That is hardly a Millenicom problem. Millenicom fully meets the needs of the vast majority of its subscribers.

The answer for those who need this bandwidth is to move to an area with FiOS or cable internet. There is no way that satellite or wireless can physically meet their needs. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22680768 Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:38:11 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22679151 mooch : I disagree. It's all about being honest and up front about the service being sold. The writing was on the wall as to the direction that Sprint and Verizon were heading in regards to capping and MC chose to ignore that.

If it's truly NOT "unlimited", they should have marketed the service differently from the get-go to avoid getting themselves in a jam. If you market a service as being "unlimited" without any kind of disclaimer then how can you possibly blame the customer for taking them for their word that the service truly is "unlimited".

Here we have a company that pumped up their service beyond what it truly is in order to drum up some business and now they're backpedalling. I have no respect for a company that uses that kind of marketing tactic.
--
ex Hughesnet customer - thank goodness!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22679151 Thu, 09 Jul 2009 11:12:53 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22678187 Jack_in_VA : You describe the problem very well. I agree. Just like society needs police to control those who don't want to abide by the rules ISPs need caps to control excessive heroic bandwidth users.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22678187 Thu, 09 Jul 2009 08:59:41 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22678146 caribconsult : I wrote to Rickee at MCom, with whom I have had excellent dealings in the past year and a half that I've been an MCom subscriber, and he confirmed that the new 'unlimited' package is under discussion right now and that all MCom subscribers would be getting an email at some point regarding this, although he didn't put a date on it. Supposedly it will cost another $10/month, not really too bad for a genuine unlimited account.

I sympathize with MCom. They tried to deliver an unlimited package for a reasonable price, but were defeated by a small percentage of users who took this as a challenge to see just how much they could download and 'get away with it' and that just ruined it for everyone. There always will be those folks who will push the envelope for no other reason than it's there. I understand that there are users with genuine reasons for large amounts of data transfer, but I don't think that's what we're talking about here.

Ever wonder why the cops pick a certain location for a radar or traffic check? It's because a few morons have gone tear-assing through that place, maybe causing accidents along the way, and so now everyone gets squeezed by their egotistical, 'it's all about me' attitude. There's just a bit too much of this kind of hubris going around.

That's my pontificating for the day. Thank you to all who read this.
--
Sierra 598U/Cradlepoint CTR500, grid antenna, Millenicom, 4 XPPro and 1 Ubuntu units, FireFox everywhere.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22678146 Thu, 09 Jul 2009 08:52:02 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22675472 anon : Yeah I think allot of sprint users were capped at 10gb.

And from what it sounds like they'll be making the $60 per month always limited to 5gb, at the same time that they get more official about their unlimited service.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22675472 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:24:50 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22675027 anon : Sounds like millenicom struck a new deal to sell sprint service again. Though I haven't heard if anyone previously had any issues with over-usage of bandwidth on sprint. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22675027 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:54:39 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22674570 anon :
said by jane8851 See Profile :

The new package says "Mobile Broadband Unlimited" and the device type is Franklin CDU 680.
they're squeezing 10 more dollars out of the already unlimited sprint service. if someone get's this deal with verizon service, that'd be something new, with value added.

seems like more of a money grab on millenicom's part]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22674570 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:36:05 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22674075 jane8851 : Yes, coverage not as good here for Sprint, Verizon tower is only 1 mile away, but I'm hoping it will be OK. Rather have unlimited even if I lose a little speed. I'm guessing that's how it works? The Sprint coverage map says "good" rather than "best".]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22674075 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:01:01 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22671349 Test99 : Thank you for keeping us updated. It sounds as if you will be using the Sprint network.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22671349 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:05:06 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22671032 jane8851 : The new package says "Mobile Broadband Unlimited" and the device type is Franklin CDU 680. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22671032 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:07:30 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22670977 cooljay : Jane8851 if you login to the members section of Millenicom and look under packages it should list what devices you have and will be getting. Might be able to let us know the device or who it's with ;)
--
Mobile Broadband EVDO Rev. A via Pantech UM175 (Millenicom)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22670977 Tue, 07 Jul 2009 23:50:46 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22669374 jane8851 : I have the UM175. Just got a confirmation email from Millenicom stating they were sending the new device. They said the signal may be "a bit" weaker than the one I now have so I'm guessing it's not off the Verizon tower. I don't mind a slight decrease in speed for unlimited but I'll try the new one before I return the UM175. We shall see.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22669374 Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:12:47 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22669069 Test99 : What device do you currently have?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22669069 Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:15:33 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22668169 jane8851 : I emailed them last night and received this reply today. I have questions though and a phone call to cs seems to have caught them off guard as they didn't know anything.

We can certainly move forward with this request. Please note we will need to ship you a different device in order to enable this upgrade ($15 shipping fee). You will need to mail the current device (including the case and contents) back to us once you receive the new device.

Please respond with your approval.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22668169 Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:42:54 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22666974 cooljay : I emailed them last night to see if they would let me know the carrier so I could at least check coverage maps to see if I'm on a fringe area or not so that I'd know if using an antenna was an option, no response yet. :(
--
Mobile Broadband EVDO Rev. A via Pantech UM175 (Millenicom)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22666974 Tue, 07 Jul 2009 11:58:23 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22665242 anon : I asked them if my unlimited would be on verizon or sprint and they said it would be a "seperate footprint that includes your location."

good to hear they'll be releasing some imformation on the 5g cap though]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22665242 Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:02:42 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22664934 anon : I e-mailed Mcom support about this $70/month banter. This was the response I received.

"We are still working on this program and will be sending out an email shortly describing our 5G limits and new service options. It may be possible to modify your account to the unlimited $69.99 service if you are interested."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22664934 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:59:00 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22664216 blinkWRX : let us know when you get it]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22664216 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:39:37 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22662459 anon : After ordering I requested that they put me on sprint, not verizon. I guess they knew I was trying to be as much uncapped as possible, so thats when they asked if I wanted the unlimited service.

I'm not sure weather it will be sprint or verizon. After asking for sprint they just said "do you want unlimited."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22662459 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:46:49 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22662388 blinkWRX : did they mention online when ordering or over the phone? and did you order it?
o and sprint or verizon?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22662388 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:29:41 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22661519 anon : I had asked them about two weeks ago if they offered unlimited in my area and they said no.

Now they asked me if I'd like it for $10 more per month when I signed up. They now have it in my area which is a fairly small town, so that seems to rule out this only being wimax.

possibly they just struck a deal with sprint/verizon and they're rolling it out where there aren't many sprint/verizon users clogging up the network?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22661519 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:19:00 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22655596 iansltx : What sounds odd to me then is also the price. Sprint offers that, albeit for $80. Then again, MCom has priced themselves $10 under Sprint per month in the past.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22655596 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:19:21 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22655329 Test99 :
said by iansltx See Profile :

Ten cities per quarter...sounds a lot like Clear WiMAX.
My thought also. The only thing that doesn't fit is the price. Maybe it's a dual offering: WiMax with EVDo as a backup when traveling in areas where WiMax is not available.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22655329 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:42:19 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22655035 iansltx : Ten cities per quarter...sounds a lot like Clear WiMAX.

My suggestion: someone call 'em with a Portland address. If it works, then we've figured out what the service is. For now Clear WiMAX is unlimited for home usage and, on the $50 plan, mobile usage.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22655035 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 19:52:46 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22654651 Jim_in_VA : work'n on it :-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22654651 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:44:42 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22652762 Test99 :
said by Jim_in_VA See Profile :

stay tuned to an upcoming article I will post on my website about having "unlimited" bandwidth ...legally.
Such a tease. :)

Bring it on!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22652762 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 02:45:11 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22647192 Jim_in_VA : as I see it, Zero1 offers VOIP solutions only]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22647192 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:32:47 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22647114 Mr Matt : :) This is just a SWAG (Sophisticated Wild Ass Guess) but this new MVNO that just began operation might be the new service that Millenicom's is reselling.

ZERO1 Mobile at »www.zer01mobile.com/ This new company does not sell directly to subscribers but only through authorized dealers. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22647114 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:14:50 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22647014 Jim_in_VA : stay tuned to an upcoming article I will post on my website about having "unlimited" bandwidth ...legally. For example:


--
... need help? »evdo-tips.com/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22647014 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:52:50 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22646717 Lamiel :
said by frazurbluu See Profile :

I called Millenicom the other day with the intention of asking about the possibility of a truely unlimited package. I said I understand that Millenicom is enforcing a 5gb a month limit now and the guy on the other end insisted that isn't true, they'd only shut off a dozen or so clients who were downloading like 10gb a day. I told him that my son and I want to play some WOW and my son likes to watch Youtube videos. He told me that's fine, that he uses the same package and he plays COD4 and watches an occasional movie, and not to worry. Is this a case of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing?
This is the same old story of Millenicom not educating their own customer service reps regarding company policy. It's absurd, but I think most of us on this forum have learned that we can't trust anything they tell us...
--
Core2Quad Q9450 @ 3.4GHz, XFX 780i SLI mobo, 2x MSI 8800GT OC in SLI, 4GB Patriot Viper DDR2-1066, Samsung 20x optical, Samsung F1 750GB HDD, Antec TP3 650 watt PSU, CoolerMaster Centurion 5 case, Vista Home Premium 64 bit...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22646717 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:41:56 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22645550 dashock333 : frazur, he must be lying to u or he is uninformed cuz there is a definate 5gb cap now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22645550 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:40:47 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22643848 frazurbluu : I called Millenicom the other day with the intention of asking about the possibility of a truely unlimited package. I said I understand that Millenicom is enforcing a 5gb a month limit now and the guy on the other end insisted that isn't true, they'd only shut off a dozen or so clients who were downloading like 10gb a day. I told him that my son and I want to play some WOW and my son likes to watch Youtube videos. He told me that's fine, that he uses the same package and he plays COD4 and watches an occasional movie, and not to worry. Is this a case of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22643848 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:16:56 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22640074 OmegaWolf747 : Perhaps we should sue Verizon.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22640074 Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:20:20 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22632933 Jack_in_VA :
said by birdwatcher See Profile :

I guess I am confused,,, when I signed up for Millenicom I talked to the main office in Oregon and they said "yes ,, its UNLIMITED"
What part of "unlimited" did they (Millenicom) not understand?
They understand fully the wrath that the upstream bandwidth providers heaped on them for allowing the "Heroic" users to do their thing. Apparently Millenicom was told control it or we will. Thus the 0.20 Mbs throttle by Verizon who is really in control of their network. Don't blame Millenicom. Verizon can and apparently is willing to control it one way or another.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22632933 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:22:38 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22632552 birdwatcher : I guess I am confused,,, when I signed up for Millenicom I talked to the main office in Oregon and they said "yes ,, its UNLIMITED"
What part of "unlimited" did they (Millenicom) not understand?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22632552 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 07:22:15 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22631199 kubel : There's no such thing as unlimited bandwidth. This is just more Millenicom BS. If Millenicom promises unlimited bandwidth (technically "unmetered"), all they are going to do is take your $70/mo and then 6 months from now start sending out the over-limit emails once their provider gets fed up. Then they will come out and say for $80/mo they can give you unlimited bandwidth...

"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22631199 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:44:42 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22625363 blinkWRX : Aww, I was hoping it was areas around towers that have barely any load :( Im still going to call tomorrow]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22625363 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:01:12 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22625125 anon : I am pretty sure it is just a Millenicom broadband account with unlimited data for extra $ per month.

I was told it was not available in my area by "Dennis" though, who claims it is being added in about 10 cities a quarter.

So it may be a new infrastructure, or it may be towers in certain areas are getting upgrades.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22625125 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:00:03 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22624993 Test99 :
said by saltshaker :

It is nothing new and has nothing to do with any supposed unlimited EVDO package.
So you have confirmation that the supposed new package is EVDO?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22624993 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:25:37 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22624941 cooljay : I too just got told I am outside the footprint for this new service :(. Said they are rolling it out within the next week or two, can't wait to see what this service is and if it's close enough that an antenna would pull it in or not.
--
Mobile Broadband EVDO Rev. A via Pantech UM175 (Millenicom)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22624941 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:12:18 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22624687 anon : Why do people keep bringing up Clearwire? This has been available from Millenicom for a long time. It is nothing new and has nothing to do with any supposed unlimited EVDO package.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22624687 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:08:26 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22624485 anon : I called about the unlimited service that they are working on and i cant get it of course im out in the boonies. You just have to give them your address and call customer service and talk to Dennis the techs are useless.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22624485 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:05:22 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22624448 OmegaWolf747 : I've done that a couple times. I'll probably still do it, but not a lot.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22624448 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:52:09 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22624394 cooljay : Not sure about YouTube but I think mainly what MCOM is saying is no Hulu streaming or other such "TV" sites.
--
Mobile Broadband EVDO Rev. A via Pantech UM175 (Millenicom)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22624394 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:36:51 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22624028 OmegaWolf747 : Is it really against the TOS to game or watch videos with Millenicom now? Was planning to do a (very) little gaming tomorrow? Like hell will I stop watching YouTube!
--
Win Vista Home Prem x86 SP2, Intel Centrino Core2 Duo @ 1.7 GHz, 2 GB RAM, 256 MB nVidia GeForce 8700M GT video, Millenicom Wireless Internet]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22624028 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:00:06 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22623830 delmarvawifi : Baltimore and Portland are the two areas Clearwire have rolled out their new service. Sounds like Millenicom is in bed with them.

Keep in mind when you are using the live chat you are not talking to a Millenicom rep - you are talking to an outsourced peon down in Georgia.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22623830 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:01:34 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22620870 blinkWRX : omg!! i hope this is true :$ im going to call monday]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22620870 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:11:50 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22620520 Jim_in_VA : col·lu·sion

noun

Definition:

secret cooperation: secret cooperation between people in order to do something illegal or underhanded

kinda funny they all use 5GB ain't it?
--
... need help? »evdo-tips.com/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22620520 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:22:37 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22619567 birdwatcher : Its amazing to me how they all seem to limit to 5G when its so easy to use that up in less than half a month. I dont watch videos or play online games, I just use it for normal web surfing and turn it off each time I am done.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22619567 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 07:52:13 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22619565 birdwatcher : To the one who mentioned Cricket,,, here is what their website says:
"Throughput speed may be limited if usage adversely impacts our network, service levels or exceeds 5 GB per month." ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22619565 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 07:50:44 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22619311 Test99 : I imagine some towers are underutilized, either because there are few users, or because there is plenty of backhaul capacity. It makes no sense to restrict people's usage of these towers, because the network will just sit idle.

Other towers are heavily used. On one of these towers, even one heavy user can significantly degrade network performance for everyone else, resulting in a lot of unhappy customers.

No one word can adequately describe what kind of usage is appropriate for all the towers in such a network. I think that's why Millenicom originally called their accounts "unlimited" and later started warning people about "heroic" usage.

Maybe someone has figured out a way to divide towers into categories depending on usage. That could explain why the rumored new service is available only in some areas. But how would such a system cope with changes in usage patterns over time? And how will it deal with people who move around a lot?

It's easy to say that the networks should just order more backhaul capacity. But the Sprint/Clearwire WiMax network is clearly struggling in their efforts to do just that. Getting all the necessary permissions to erect even one new tower can be very time-consuming. And spectrum purchases frequently cost billions of dollars.

Network management in the present technological/financial/regulatory environment is a much harder problem than it looks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22619311 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 02:50:11 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22618745 anon : That has been there for a while. It is also cheaper than mobile broadband, not $10 more expensive like this rumored unlimited package is supposed to be.

I did call up customer service to double check and was given the absolutely no information pitch these guys appear to like.

Me: I heard you guys may be offering an unlimited mobile broadband package for $10 a month extra soon. Have you heard anything about this?

Tech: We are not aware of it if that is the case.

Me: So no?

Tech: I cannot confirm or deny any unlimited package, all we offer is what is listed on the web page. If such a package exists or will exist we are not aware of it.

The guy on instant messaging customer service used the exact same language "we are not aware of it". I wonder if techs were given specific instructions on how to respond to such inquiries.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22618745 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:17:39 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22618719 cooljay :
said by Test99 See Profile :

Let's not get our hopes up too much until we know more. This could be just some new WiMax plan. WiMax is great, but so far it is available in very few places.
On their site they do have a WiMax page up:
»www.millenicom.com/mobilebroadba···plus.htm

But it is only available in Baltimore, MD and Portland, OR. Very narrow area for it :( and I believe most people in those areas already have the option of cable/DSL.

--
Mobile Broadband EVDO Rev. A via Pantech UM175 (Millenicom)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22618719 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:08:18 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22618690 Test99 : Let's not get our hopes up too much until we know more. This could be just some new WiMax plan. WiMax is great, but so far it is available in very few places.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22618690 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:01:25 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22618398 anon : I wanted to let you know that I had my wife call in and she was told the same thing about unlimited service coming for an extrea $10 (at least in our area). If it just is in select areas, I wonder how selective it is.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22618398 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:45:25 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22618344 mtncat : Could be that Millenicom is now able to determine which markets are not subject to a 5GB cap, and will only tell subscribers if they pay an extra $10 a month?? However, as stated before, this service is not bound to a contract. So, no guarantees, I suppose. Or maybe they will collect an extra $10 from new Sprint users until a cap is enforced.

Either way, sign me up for that extra $10... peace of mind for a month anyway.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22618344 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:32:25 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22617871 anon : Seems like some have heard of it some not. He said it wasn't available in my zip code, maybe I'll give Cricket broadband a try, atleast it's cheap..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22617871 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:56:29 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22617569 anon : Well this is what Millenicom told me...

Saltshaker:
I recently read that Millenicom is or is going to offer unlimited mobile broadband usage for $10 extra a month. Is this accurate and how would I get on this plan?

Welcome Saltshaker! Your request has been directed to the Customer Service department. Please wait for our operator to answer your call.

Call accepted by operator Tech. Currently in room: Saltshaker, Tech.

Tech: If we are we are not aware of it - but we continually seek the best solutions for our customers.

Saltshaker: So that is no right?

Tech: We offer the services that you see on our site, no others

Saltshaker: Okay thank you.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22617569 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:54:15 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22617083 anon : Remember that verizon and sprint are the ones who inforce the caps, so it isn't necessarily Millinicoms fault that they told you it was unlimited. Also some people do get away with getting over 5/10 GB, so it's not surprising they told you that.

Just asked them about this and they say:

"That is correct. Obviously the footprint for the unlimited service is different than our regular service. Please let us know your address and we can let you know what you qualify for."

Looks like verizon/sprint were only willing to offer truly unlimited service to certain markets?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22617083 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:19:07 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22616783 anon : I too woud subsrice that would be awesome. Why don't a couple others call in and ask about this?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22616783 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:41:34 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22616844 NewcastleB : When I signed up, the $59 plan was unlimited. The email they sent me said unlimited. The person I talked to on the phone before signing up said unlimited, and even said something to the affect that it's really easy to go over 5G once you start watching videos. Now the $59 unlimited plan is caped at 5G and watching videos or playing games are against the TOS.

The big question is, how long before the $69 unlimited plan will be caped at 5G. Then well have the option of signing up to the unlimited plan with a 5G cap for $59, or for just $10 more you can get unlimited bandwidth caped at 5G/month.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22616844 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:38:21 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22616260 anon : I don't think anybody has the details on this yet. For all we know it doesn't even exist.

Would be nice though.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22616260 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:14:44 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22616247 OmegaWolf747 : Would people be able to upgrade their existing accounts or would we have to get new modems?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22616247 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:05:04 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22616230 VRod105 : I saw that they had changed the website the other day to indicate that their service was not intended for someone that needed Heroic amounts of data.

The question is if they offer a $69 unlimited plan, what is the cap on the $59 plan. They have to set a limit to differentiate the plans.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22616230 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:02:26 EDT Re: unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22615492 anon : I would definitely subscribe! Sounds to good to be true though.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22615492 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:55:26 EDT unlimited service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22615064 anon : I wanted to post that I just talked to a sales person at Millenicom and the person informed me that they are going to roll out a truly unlimited service within the next few days that will cost $10 more ($69.99). Has anyone else heard about this supposed unlimited service?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22615064 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:26:46 EDT