Stewy
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Kitchener, ON
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Re: Anyone else pre-order windows 7?
said by pat_lc2000  :Why in gods name do you want to keep Win2k. There is no reason to keep it or even XP at this point. The explanation is that for me and others for example, I have two keys, I have a Win2K Pro Retail CD, and XP Pro Retail CD. According to the windows store the information was that you would be able to upgrade to W7 from Win2K.
What W7U would have then done is deactivate the Win2K key with the WGA Servers and would migrate the W7U key to a full retail key. By migrating the Win2K key and having it disabled, the actual media would then be useless and you would be able to dispose of it, if that was the case you would now then still have have a valid XP key and a valid W7 key.
I would rather keep XP and W7 than Win2K and W7. However from the "official upgrade chart" Win2K is not a valid upgrade path. So instead of getting rid of Win2K I have to get rid of my XP license.
So all this to say that if I want to have two systems, I have no other choice but to upgrade my XP and will now have to buy a Full Retail W7 License for my second system. |
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Snickerdo
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Niagara Falls, ON
| Despite what Microsoft may say, Win2k and XP keys are never disabled by an upgrade. You don't even ever have to enter your previous OS' key as part of the upgrade.
I doubt they'll be disabling Vista keys, either. The logistics of dealing with mistakes and the like just doesn't make financial sense.
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Stewy
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Kitchener, ON
| said by Snickerdo :Despite what Microsoft may say, Win2k and XP keys are never disabled by an upgrade. You don't even ever have to enter your previous OS' key as part of the upgrade. Time will tell but I think I'm right. We'll have to revisit this issue with a W7U RTM install. |
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Stewy
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join:2007-12-12
Kitchener, ON
| BTW The official W7 Eula went live but there's still no word on the "validation" part 
»www.microsoft.com/windows/window···ula.aspx
Stay tuned...... |
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Snickerdo
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Niagara Falls, ON
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said by Stewy :Time will tell but I think I'm right. We'll have to revisit this issue with a W7U RTM install. I know for a 100% fact that it does not happen with XP or Win2k. Since Vista's first upgrade will be Windows 7, we'll have to wait and see.
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You ask, what is our aim? I can answer in one word: Victory. Victory at all costs - Victory in spite of all terror - Victory, however long and hard the road may be, for without victory there is no survival. |
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Laidback
join:2001-09-30
Woodstock, ON
 ·PrimusDSL
| said by Snickerdo :said by Stewy :Time will tell but I think I'm right. We'll have to revisit this issue with a W7U RTM install. I know for a 100% fact that it does not happen with XP or Win2k. Since Vista's first upgrade will be Windows 7, we'll have to wait and see. Not counting that wonderful SP1 that was released? I would have to agree with you that W7 would be the first upgrade to vista. |
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Snickerdo
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Niagara Falls, ON | Service packs aren't upgrades. They're service packs.  |
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Stewy
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join:2007-12-12
Kitchener, ON
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said by Snickerdo :Despite what Microsoft may say, Win2k and XP keys are never disabled by an upgrade. You don't even ever have to enter your previous OS' key as part of the upgrade. You have to ask yourself if XP keys are never disabled by an upgrade (so far) why would they include XP on the W7 Upgrade disk ?
There's only one possible answer.
I understand that you do not enter your previous OS key as part of the upgrade process because W7 Upgrade requires a previous activated OS to be installed first making that step not required.
The Vista EULA is very clear.
13. UPGRADES. To use upgrade software, you must first be licensed for the software that is eligible for the upgrade. Upon upgrade, this agreement takes the place of the agreement for the software you upgraded from. After you upgrade, you may no longer use the software you upgraded from.
Neowin goes even further »www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=37676 and states that
"If you choose to purchase an upgrade version of Windows Vista to upgrade XP, you will no longer be able to use that version of XP. Either on another system, or as a dual-boot option. The key will be invalidated, preventing activation."
I believe that W7U will take it a step further. |
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Snickerdo
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Niagara Falls, ON | No, Windows 7 won't take it any further by disabling your copy of Windows XP. It's all about downgrade rights. |
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