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vue666

join:2007-12-07

reply to Last Parade
Re: Anyone else pre-order windows 7?

There is a new magazine devoted to Ubuntu named Ubuntu User. It's one of those UK over sized magazines....It hit the newsstands in Halifax last week... It is published quarterly....and sells for about $18.00 and includes a double sided dvd...

»www.ubuntu-user.com/

Tyreman

join:2002-10-08
reply to pat_lc2000
I have been thru it to.


Wolfie00
My dog is an elitist
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join:2005-03-12

reply to dragonfist
said by dragonfist :

Shows you how little you know about linux.
Shows you how little you know about Windows. Windows also has a "live CD" implementation based on XP, but unlike Ubuntu, it is fully customizable by the user. I have a highly customized version loaded with applications that I've used for all kinds of specialized purposes. More importantly, Windows has a very robust "System Restore" feature that would usually be the first step if "something has corrupted your network driver or whatever"!

Anyway, I've mentioned in other discussions all the problems I've had with different versions of Linux, including having to spend days of frustration trying to get a wireless network adapter to work with SuSe Linux 10.3 and all the other issues I've had with it. And then when I upgraded to 11.1, it stopped working again.

That was the last straw. I deleted the Linux partitions (using my Windows live CD ...lol...) and restored my dual-boot system to Windows only (using tools on my live CD to dynamically repartition).

Oh, one more thing. An initial scan of the disk before repartitioning revealed inconsistent partition data that had to be repaired. Guess where it was located? Yep, up in the Linux partitions. Sort of the final insult before I completely and finally removed it. What an utter piece of garbage!
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dragonfist

@teksavvy.com
reply to vue666
Personally I am not a Ubuntu fan. I find Fedora more stable, but it's more of a bleeding edge distro. I am using fedora 10 with almost no problems and runs faster than xp. Fedora 11 is even faster but I'll wait til it gets more mature.


Snickerdo
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join:2001-02-28
Niagara Falls, ON

reply to Wolfie00
said by Wolfie00 See Profile :

Shows you how little you know about Windows. Windows also has a "live CD" implementation based on XP, but unlike Ubuntu, it is fully customizable by the user. I have a highly customized version loaded with applications that I've used for all kinds of specialized purposes. More importantly, Windows has a very robust "System Restore" feature that would usually be the first step if "something has corrupted your network driver or whatever"!
There are also Vista-based PE implementations which, oddly enough, work remarkably well. The Windows 6 kernel is a lot better than the Windows 5.1/5.2 kernel when optimized properly.

One thing I have to vehemently disagree with you on though is System Restore. What an utterly useless feature. 9 times out of 10 whatever corruption has caused something to stop working has also propagated through the System Volume Information folder, making restore points useless. I always turn it off, and have never regretted not having it on.
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urbanriot

join:2004-10-18
St Catharines, ON
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You should leave it on for most users though, as you can recover multiple snapshots of their registry, in the event of registry corruption. I've used it many, many times. I once creatively used a snapshot to diff out the various entries of a really nasty virus. Like you though, I do disable it for myself, personally, since all my drives are SSD's.


Snickerdo
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join:2001-02-28
Niagara Falls, ON

said by urbanriot See Profile :

You should leave it on for most users though, as you can recover multiple snapshots of their registry, in the event of registry corruption. I've used it many, many times. I once creatively used a snapshot to diff out the various entries of a really nasty virus. Like you though, I do disable it for myself, personally, since all my drives are SSD's.
The problem with trying to use System Restore to recover from a virus is that the files stores in System Volume Information are often the first ones to get infected, and even though you may be recovering a corrupted registry with a working copy, you're still bringing infected files along with it. I don't disable it for other people, but I'm not quick to use it, either.
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I swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, Queen of Canada, Her Heirs and Successors, and that I will faithfully observe the laws of Canada and fulfil my duties as a Canadian citizen.


urbanriot

join:2004-10-18
St Catharines, ON
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I meant literally a corrupted registry. You know, computer power went out, registry was in memory and corrupted... system now blue screens, most computer people format when they could have simply copied back yesterday's SYSTEM which is exactly the same for ages. Each time a snapshot is made, it also snaps all the registry hives. I might have confused the point with an unrelated use I found for it.


Wolfie00
My dog is an elitist
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join:2005-03-12

reply to Snickerdo
Well you can agree or disagree about System Restore, but I've found it extremely useful for correcting all sorts of odd problems or uninstalling things like some Windows updates which are not technically "uninstallable". It can be a real lifesaver and I've always maintained it's one of XP's best features.

I can't even count how many times I've had friends call me for help, and rather than trying to trace some obscure problem that had just cropped up, it's usually easier to walk them through a System Restore. It's worked every time.

It's true that it's not a catch-all for recovering from viruses because they can often infect restore points too -- though certainly not always -- but that's about the only exception to how universally useful System Restore is. Even if you prefer not to use it, I think it's really unwise to turn it off.
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Snickerdo
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join:2001-02-28
Niagara Falls, ON

reply to urbanriot
said by urbanriot See Profile :

I meant literally a corrupted registry. You know, computer power went out, registry was in memory and corrupted... system now blue screens, most computer people format when they could have simply copied back yesterday's SYSTEM which is exactly the same for ages. Each time a snapshot is made, it also snaps all the registry hives. I might have confused the point with an unrelated use I found for it.
It's my understanding that Windows XP and newer automatically make a backup copy of the registry regardless of whether System Restore is enabled or not, and that you can use that to restore.

That in itself is a good idea. The caching of system files and all sorts of crap just to "roll back" is not. Causes more problems than its worth.
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I swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, Queen of Canada, Her Heirs and Successors, and that I will faithfully observe the laws of Canada and fulfil my duties as a Canadian citizen.


urbanriot

join:2004-10-18
St Catharines, ON
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said by Snickerdo See Profile :

It's my understanding that Windows XP and newer automatically make a backup copy of the registry regardless of whether System Restore is enabled or not, and that you can use that to restore.
Usually those backups are years old and useless in most situations to bring a system back up to a perfectly running state as it was 'yesterday.' System restore creates snapshots every time it makes a restore point, so usually you have a healthy registry hive from the previous day, or recent enough that it's probably the same file. While you're probably encountering XP less and less, that pro tip might come in handy one day.


Snickerdo
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join:2001-02-28
Niagara Falls, ON

said by urbanriot See Profile :

Usually those backups are years old and useless in most situations to bring a system back up to a perfectly running state as it was 'yesterday.' System restore creates snapshots every time it makes a restore point, so usually you have a healthy registry hive from the previous day, or recent enough that it's probably the same file. While you're probably encountering XP less and less, that pro tip might come in handy one day.
You're thinking of the original factory hives that get backed up inside \Windows\System32\Recovery folder or something like that. My understanding is that besides that, another backup copy of the registry inside the System Volume Information folder is created after each successful boot, regardless of whether System Restore is enabled or not. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it saved my skin before *shrug*
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I swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, Queen of Canada, Her Heirs and Successors, and that I will faithfully observe the laws of Canada and fulfil my duties as a Canadian citizen.


urbanriot

join:2004-10-18
St Catharines, ON
Considering they're in the _RESTORE folder, I'd imagined that they were created by System Restore. But I'd like to know if you're right, going to check it out next XP system I hit up... fresh install on this system, no vmware yet :/


dissapbell

@bell.ca
reply to gold1
Happy with XP pro. Can run my Dell on Linux Live Ubuntu.
Bought one before FS ran out of stock. Don't know why but got one.


Devanchya
Smile
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join:2003-12-09
Ajax, ON
reply to gold1
Just ordered 3 copies for my house.

MikeA1972

join:2008-02-06
Brantford, ON

reply to gold1
Had Windows 7RC on my old Dell box to test for a week.. slowed down daily..hated it. Put Dreamlinux 3.5 on it, and have been up stable without slowdown, without needing to run a defrag or malware scan for 34 days +.. no reboot required. I don't game on a computer anymore, so Windoh's! is a dead format for me. Linux FTW.


jeffster1970
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reply to pat_lc2000
Maybe you just need another modem and/or wireless card. That said, usually wireless will start working flawlessly if you copy the driver off of your disk. (I believe the *.inf and *.sys file) You ndis the *.inf file and blacklist the your wireless hardware. Yeah, I little complicated, but most people get their card working.

Unsure about the modem thing, I haven't used a modem in eons.
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Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943


Snickerdo
Premium
join:2001-02-28
Niagara Falls, ON

reply to MikeA1972
said by MikeA1972 See Profile :

Had Windows 7RC on my old Dell box to test for a week.. slowed down daily..hated it. Put Dreamlinux 3.5 on it, and have been up stable without slowdown, without needing to run a defrag or malware scan for 34 days +.. no reboot required. I don't game on a computer anymore, so Windoh's! is a dead format for me. Linux FTW.
If you're constantly needing to clean malware from your computer, it means that you're no better than a novice user. Don't be an idiot and stop clicking on every banner ad you see.
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I swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, Queen of Canada, Her Heirs and Successors, and that I will faithfully observe the laws of Canada and fulfil my duties as a Canadian citizen.

MikeA1972

join:2008-02-06
Brantford, ON

said by Snickerdo See Profile :

said by MikeA1972 See Profile :

Had Windows 7RC on my old Dell box to test for a week.. slowed down daily..hated it. Put Dreamlinux 3.5 on it, and have been up stable without slowdown, without needing to run a defrag or malware scan for 34 days +.. no reboot required. I don't game on a computer anymore, so Windoh's! is a dead format for me. Linux FTW.
If you're constantly needing to clean malware from your computer, it means that you're no better than a novice user. Don't be an idiot and stop clicking on every banner ad you see.
You have made it so simple! Can't believe the fool I was! (Note to self, stop clicking banner ads). I am going to wipe Linux and install Vista.. brb.


Snickerdo
Premium
join:2001-02-28
Niagara Falls, ON

said by MikeA1972 See Profile :

You have made it so simple! Can't believe the fool I was! (Note to self, stop clicking banner ads). I am going to wipe Linux and install Vista.. brb.
Do yourself a favour and stick to Colecovision.
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