tor
@teksavvy.com | reply to MikeA1972
Re: Anyone else pre-order windows 7?
Stop going to the porn sites :P |
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MikeA1972
join:2008-02-06
Brantford, ON
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said by Snickerdo  :said by MikeA1972 :You have made it so simple! Can't believe the fool I was! (Note to self, stop clicking banner ads). I am going to wipe Linux and install Vista.. brb.  Do yourself a favour and stick to Colecovision. What in the world does that even mean? Colecovision rocked btw.. First great Donkey Kong home game. |
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MikeA1972
join:2008-02-06
Brantford, ON
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said by tor :
Stop going to the porn sites :P
Make me.  I can surf porn without fear of malware running Linux. |
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Snickerdo
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join:2001-02-28
Niagara Falls, ON
| reply to MikeA1972
said by MikeA1972 :Colecovision rocked btw.. First great Donkey Kong home game. Exactly. |
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dragonfist
@teksavvy.com
| reply to MikeA1972
said by MikeA1972 :said by tor :
Stop going to the porn sites :P
Make me. I can surf porn without fear of malware running Linux. You can also do that with windows with a program called sandboxie. It a great program when surfing in windows. |
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siljaline
mind that delimiter
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join:2002-10-12
Montreal, QC | reply to gold1
Not me, when Win 7 ships Dell OEM, I'll look at it then.
Perfectly happy with XP Pro SP3. |
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digitalfutur
Sees More Than Shown
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join:2000-07-15
BurlingtonON | reply to gold1
Just bought an HP Slimline PC and ordered the free upgrade to Win 7. $12.95 for shipping the CD 10/22. |
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Stewy
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join:2007-12-12
Kitchener, ON
| reply to gold1
It's just fitting that on the day that Windows 7 has gone Gold
»www.tomshardware.com/news/window···320.html
I just wanted to clear up once and for all the upgrade path to Windows 7. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
I just read about 20 articles where it seems that Windows 7 UPGRADE will required an installed version of Vista, XP or Windows 2000 (yes windows 2000). You will NOT be able to simply insert your Vista, XP or 2000 CD to validate your Windows 7 upgrade.
»store.microsoft.com/microsoft/Wi···B0F9E641
But here's the catch with XP and 2000. Either of those MUST be installed first and you must to a "clean" install with Windows 7. You will not have a direct upgrade path.
Here's catch number 2 which is very important but very little information has been offered on the subject. Once you do an upgrade from XP or 2000 with Windows 7, the activation will void those XP or 2000 registration keys, once that is done you will then be able to reinstall your Windows 7 Upgrade without having your old XP or 2000 pre installed.
Once you activate Windows 7 over XP or 2000, you will no longer be able to reactivate that XP or 2000 license in the future or on another computer.
Here's my situation, I have a Windows 2000 Professional full version, and a XP Pro full version. In order for me to keep my XP Pro license I will have to format my system and install Windows 2000 first then install Windows 7 upgrade. Which will then deactivate the windows 2000 license and I will then be able to "technically" discard that version and keep my XP still on my secondary computer. |
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Thane_Bitter
join:2005-01-20
London, ON
 ·Bell Sympatico
| Windows 2k doesn't call home for activation, I am certain it is only a key based system so I am not sure if they could do it. But on the other hand XP uses WGA (Widows Going to Authenticate at boot) which could be nuked by MS.
If you must install XP or 2k first to install (rather then using the disk for validation) I am not entirely pleased one has to install an OS twice ("you have installed xp - you must restart to install Windows 7" - somethings never change. )
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Stewy
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join:2007-12-12
Kitchener, ON | check this out...
»www.maximumpc.com/article/news/w···nstalled |
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Thane_Bitter
join:2005-01-20
London, ON | Good advice, few people make backups anyways, this workaround might encourage people to plan for the worst.
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Stewy
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join:2007-12-12
Kitchener, ON
| "From then on it's MS that remembers the upgrade vs. the user having to prove it each time they re-install. (in other words the W7 upgrade SKU morphs into the full version the first time it's activated with a previous key and the servers remember everything from then on"
So doing a W7 upgrade over your old license will morph your W7 upgrade into the full version. Interesting. |
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Stewy
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join:2007-12-12
Kitchener, ON
1 edit | Very interesting....
»hothardware.com/News/Rules-for-W···erified/
"Jul 13, 2009
It looks like you are misinformed about the changes to the upgrade install process.
If you want to reinstall at a later date, you won't need your old license key or the old copy of Vista installed.
Why is this different now? Because now when you install an upgrade version, it requires the old OS's license key which will then be tied to your new Windows 7 key on Microsoft's servers. The benefit to you is that you can toss those old Vista media and license keys, since they will be invalidated on Microsoft's servers. However, that also means you can't then use that copy of Vista on another new machine.
Also, when you install you will always be given an option to "Clean Install" which will put any old OS's in Windows.Old. That old directory is more of a way to make things easier for you, Microsoft could have just deleted it. This "Clean Install" option is available even without the RC installed. And for those of us going from a 32-bit OS to a 64-bit OS, it's actually the only option allowed.
The upgrade version just wants your old license key just once, so it can be tied to it forever on Microsoft's servers. So the only
fundamental difference to the "full" and "upgrade" version is how the license keys are validated on the first try. After that, they are the same. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the media is EXACTLY the same when you get it from Microsoft, just that the license keys are different so they can be handled differently on Microsoft's side" |
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digitalfutur
Sees More Than Shown
Premium
join:2000-07-15
BurlingtonON
 ·Cogeco Cable
| reply to gold1
Anyone who is planning to get Win7 but didn't pre-order should wait until the "Family Pack" is clarified if they plan to install Win7 on more than one computer.
»news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10292332-56.html
Price is rumoured to be USD 150 for installation on up to 3 PCs with the same license key.
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vue666
join:2007-12-07 | WOW...that's a good price... Kind of like the corporate edition for families... I have four computers in my home.... 1 is linux though....
Thanks kindly for the heads up... |
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Stewy
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join:2007-12-12
Kitchener, ON
2 edits | reply to Thane_Bitter
said by Thane_Bitter :Windows 2k doesn't call home for activation, I am certain it is only a key based system so I am not sure if they could do it. But on the other hand XP uses WGA (Widows Going to Authenticate at boot) which could be nuked by MS. If you must install XP or 2k first to install (rather then using the disk for validation) I am not entirely pleased one has to install an OS twice ("you have installed xp - you must restart to install Windows 7" - somethings never change. ) I've been thinking about this, I think how it works is that XP get's WGA at boot while with W2K the WGA would be with IE getting updates.
It doesn't really matter because, if I have installed W2K and never did any updates and then Upgraded to W7. The way I understand it would be that W7 would then migrate my W2K Key into a valid W7 Key. I would then be able to reinstall W2K on another computer but wouldn't be able to apply updates on that computer. As for XP I would be able to install it but not activate it.
But with my situation, I would like to keep my XP running on my secondary computer but get rid of my W2K. So I'd have to wipe my XP install, install W2K and do an W7 Upgrade.
So if I do this, and then want to reinstall W7 on a brand new HD I would simply do a "custom" install and use my old W2K key code that has been validated on Microsoft's servers as a valid W7 key, do a W7 WGA activation and everything would work. I would never need the actual W2K media again but would need the key code. |
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Thane_Bitter
join:2005-01-20
London, ON
·Bell Sympatico
| Might work - seems convoluted though, unless win2k has SP4 installed, you can't do much with it. Still the service packs are freely accessible without WGA or other access controlling means, the releases past SP4 are mostly security repairs and fixes which MS provides freely even to fake OSs. Win2k is almost retired officially “All Windows 2000 support including new security updates and security-related hotfixes will be terminated on July 13, 2010” »technet.microsoft.com/en-ca/wind···ult.aspx
rant - Too bad, I liked win2k; it’s not as fat as XP (but not as pretty) nearly as functional and very stable (usless for games however). In some ways Win7 is to help users get off XP that didn't like Vista. XP has 5 more years of life in it. -rant off
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Stewy
Premium
join:2007-12-12
Kitchener, ON
| Personally I would never had though that W2K would be part of the upgrade path. But hey if the Microsoft store is right and you can upgrade W2K to W7 I'm going to take advantage of it.
If "migrating" your Vista, XP, W2K keys into a full W7 is indeed the case then I fully support it. |
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digitalfutur
Sees More Than Shown
Premium
join:2000-07-15
BurlingtonON
·Cogeco Cable
| reply to gold1
Family Pack confirmed at USD 149, likely CAD 179.
»news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10300···tories.0
Anyone who pre-ordered 3 copies of Win7 would have saved about CAD 60 by waiting until 10/22 for the Family Pack.
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Devanchya
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join:2003-12-09
Ajax, ON | Wish they had a family pack for the pro. |
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