Is this info good or bad on my DSL line trace?

KPAZ @qwest.net	reply to y_not Re: Is this info good or bad on my DSL line trace? said by y_not : Maybe I'm missing something here.. How would running a 7ft patch cord that uses 4twisted pairs, then twisted upon themselves, better known as Cat5/e have any impact on a line that's already using twisted pairs? Even old school phone wire is using twisted pair, since the early 1900's. I can see running a home run with Cat5e as I have done would at the very least prevent adl. interference short of a large EMI from parallel power lines. But even then, you're still only using 1 pair. Unless you have 2 screw down lug type terminals on both ends and you can connect up all 4 pairs. 4 wires to each ring and tip, one wire coming from each pair for each side of the terminal conn. But even then... will it really make a difference? Just curiosity! He is using regular phone line.... With DSL the less phone line the better.
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NormanS Premium,MVM join:2001-02-14 San Jose, CA ·Pacific Bell - SBC	reply to KPAZ I don't have a problem. I am just pointing out that I didn't buy squat replacing untwisted wire with CAT 3. And the difference between the untwisted wire, and CAT 3 is an order of magnitude greater than the difference between CAT 3 and CAT 5. From the jack to the modem, is often shorter. I have a cousin who added about 20 ft. of satin phone cable from the jack to the end of the 12 ft. run of CAT 3 included with the SpeedStream 4100 modem shipped by AT&T. I did advise against it, but he was pretty insistent. So I figured I'd set it up and check his statistics afterward. Damn! He has better numbers than I, and his line can support Elite (6 Mb/s service) where mine only supports Pro (3 Mb/s service). He is closer to his DSLAM than I am to mine. -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
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y_not join:2002-07-15 Redmond, OR	reply to KPAZ Maybe I'm missing something here.. How would running a 7ft patch cord that uses 4twisted pairs, then twisted upon themselves, better known as Cat5/e have any impact on a line that's already using twisted pairs? Even old school phone wire is using twisted pair, since the early 1900's. I can see running a home run with Cat5e as I have done would at the very least prevent adl. interference short of a large EMI from parallel power lines. But even then, you're still only using 1 pair. Unless you have 2 screw down lug type terminals on both ends and you can connect up all 4 pairs. 4 wires to each ring and tip, one wire coming from each pair for each side of the terminal conn. But even then... will it really make a difference? Just curiosity!
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KPAZ @qwest.net	reply to NormanS Your problem is different. I don't recommend you replace anything. I recommend it to the other person because he was using pure phone wire.
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smithduluth join:2006-10-26 Duluth, MN	reply to NormanS I don't think that a 50 foot or so length of Cat 5 or 6 will make a difference going to your modem from the demarc after a few thousand feet of cat 3 to the CO. A home run wire to the demarc from the modem is a good idea however, then just one filter will handle the rest of the existing house wiring.
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NormanS Premium,MVM join:2001-02-14 San Jose, CA ·Pacific Bell - SBC	reply to KPAZ said by KPAZ : I recommend everyone with DSL replace the phone line from the jack to the modem with a Cat5 phone line. I did it yesterday and increased my speed tests results by 1.5mbps. I'm running 3.0 Mb/s (less the overhead) on CAT 3 wire. I doubt that replacing 40 feet of CAT 3 with 40 feet of CAT 5e will improve my SNR, or line attenuation. FWIW, I replaced 40 feet of untwisted station wire (~40 years old at the time) when I installed that run of CAT 3. It did not buy me even 0.5 dB of improvement for either SN, or attenuation. -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
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ChrisLV426 join:2009-06-26 Littleton, CO	reply to ChrisLV426 QWEST is coming out tomorrow to check the line.
	to forum · permalink · · 2009-06-30 22:41:11 ·
ChrisLV426 join:2009-06-26 Littleton, CO	reply to ChrisLV426 Cool, thanks. I was having no luck finding them.
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KPAZ @qwest.net	reply to KPAZ I just found out its called RJ11 Patch Cable.
	to forum · permalink · 2009-06-28 01:37:22 ·
KPAZ @qwest.net	reply to ChrisLV426 You just need a CAT5 cable with RJ11 connectors. RJ11 is the same thing as the connectors on your phone cords. Here is another place selling it: »www.cablesondemand.com/Library/I···odVn7zAg
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ChrisLV426 join:2009-06-26 Littleton, CO	reply to ChrisLV426 Oops. Never mind. I need a cat5e to RJ11 splitter. Same question though.
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ChrisLV426 join:2009-06-26 Littleton, CO	reply to ChrisLV426 If you buy the CAT5 RJ11 cable you will not have to buy another modem or any adapters. The cable is just like a CAT5 ethernet cable but has regualr phone connectors on the end. Just replace your phone line from the jack to the modem with the CAT5 RJ11 cable. It should help your speeds as it did mine. Not having any luck finding one but I have found the adapter. Anyone have any idea where I can get such a thing in town? I would like to get it taken care of tomorrow. Best Buy and Home Depot have some cat5e and 6 stuff but no gender changing couplers:
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ChrisLV426 join:2009-06-26 Littleton, CO	reply to ChrisLV426 If you buy the CAT5 RJ11 cable you will not have to buy another modem or any adapters. The cable is just like a CAT5 ethernet cable but has regualr phone connectors on the end. Just replace your phone line from the jack to the modem with the CAT5 RJ11 cable. It should help your speeds as it did mine. I don't understand how that would help if the problem is at my ISP? Or are you saying that I may have a problem with them but still might be able to pump some more data through the line with a faster cable?
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ChrisLV426 join:2009-06-26 Littleton, CO	reply to ChrisLV426 Who's your ISP? It doesn't appear to be Qwest itself - Mammoth Networks is used by resellers, and in my short time using them, has a very shoddy network. Essentially, you're purchasing the line from Qwest and purchasing the actual Internet service from a reseller who happens to use Mammoth. That said, if you're training at less those speeds, your problem is between your premise and the Qwest DSLAM. Totalspeed.net and DSLBlast.
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KPAZ @qwest.net	reply to ChrisLV426 If you buy the CAT5 RJ11 cable you will not have to buy another modem or any adapters. The cable is just like a CAT5 ethernet cable but has regualr phone connectors on the end. Just replace your phone line from the jack to the modem with the CAT5 RJ11 cable. It should help your speeds as it did mine.
	to forum · permalink · 2009-06-27 00:15:27 ·
KPAZ @qwest.net	reply to ChrisLV426 I have no clue where I got it. It was in my chest of old computer cords, parts, etc. Its a CAT5 cable with RJ11 (phone style) connectors on the ends. I don't know who makes it but I searched online and found two sites selling CAT5 RJ11 cables. »www.educational-software.com/bel···ils.html »www.diguniverse.com/TELECOM/BATT···E-S.html If anyone can identify the cable I have it has this written on it: SUNF PU (UL) E132276-A TYPE CM 75°C 2PR 24AWG (Y) CSA LL64151-A PCC FT4/CMG CAT.5 - - - UTF
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no_one @qwest.net	reply to ChrisLV426 always get data backer with qwest. extortion but cheaper that their f u service call. Ok not that bad. Techs good under pressure for numbers. The techs can be great but no leaway for shit. Covering their own asses to have a job.
	to forum · permalink · 2009-06-26 23:54:40 ·
CocoaVanilla I love oranges Premium join:2008-04-16 Tucson, AZ ·Qwest.net ·XMission ·Comcast	reply to ChrisLV426 Who's your ISP? It doesn't appear to be Qwest itself - Mammoth Networks is used by resellers, and in my short time using them, has a very shoddy network. Essentially, you're purchasing the line from Qwest and purchasing the actual Internet service from a reseller who happens to use Mammoth. That said, if you're training at less those speeds, your problem is between your premise and the Qwest DSLAM.
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ChrisLV426 join:2009-06-26 Littleton, CO	reply to ChrisLV426 Newegg has some Rosewill cat6 cables. Next question. I only have a cat5 slot for the cable that goes to my PC. The others are regular phone jack connectors. Does that mean I need a new modem or just an adapter?
	to forum · permalink · · 2009-06-26 21:39:37 ·
ChrisLV426 join:2009-06-26 Littleton, CO	reply to ChrisLV426 I recommend everyone with DSL replace the phone line from the jack to the modem with a Cat5 phone line. I did it yesterday and increased my speed tests results by 1.5mbps. Did you find it local or online?
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