mlerner
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Nepean, ON
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Re: Is Rogers Wireless in Trouble?
said by gsm234 :
Wonder if ROGERS will lease out access to Bell / Telus until they get their own network inplace?
If it's going to happen either way, Rogers may as well make some money from them in the process.
It's an overlay much like Rogers went through going from TDMA to GSM. They will not getting access from any other provider nor will they have roaming within the country. Telus and Bell are also partially funding so they could conceivably have most of the network up before the end of next year. |
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sbrook
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join:2001-12-14
H0H 0H0 | reply to gsm234
More like charge users for roaming! |
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gsm234
@wightman.ca | reply to elwoodblues
Wonder if ROGERS will lease out access to Bell / Telus until they get their own network inplace?
If it's going to happen either way, Rogers may as well make some money from them in the process. |
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Hello_123
@rogers.com
| reply to elwoodblues
Rogers Wireless is definitely not in trouble.. they have a game plan for most scenarios any of the new entrants + Bellus will offer... as someone said, more competitive, yes... trouble, no.
But I would agree that they have the most to lose in terms of churn (as they are no. 1, so no where to go but down)... but I think we'll see more competitive plans in the next year or so, the winner will be the customers in the end (I hope!). |
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howi
join:2005-07-27
Mississauga, ON
| reply to Robrr
Robrr,
Certainly, the existing CDMA/CDMA2000 (and iDEN w/ TELUS as well) networks won't disappear for another long while. But we'd expect both Bell & TELUS will encourage their subscribers to migrate once the HSPA deployment becomes smooth sailing. |
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howi
join:2005-07-27
Mississauga, ON
1 edit | reply to sbrook
sbrook / dirtyjeffer
I've got the insider tips suggesting Bell & TELUS would set their benchmark relatively high: to meet or exceed what Rogers HSPA footprint and reliability within a set time frame.
To get some idea what their HSPA network would become, take a look on Page 6 & 7 in this PDF file...
»gsmworld.com/documents/GSMA_Feb_···elus.pdf
But as for Rogers, no sweat! It has been leading ahead of the pact and already paying off its investment in GSM migration already and now moving on w/ the WCDMA/UMTS/HSPA.
What would be interesting to see, is the new entrants: Quebecor, DAVE, Globalive, Public Wireless, etc. How well they will do & how long will they survive? |
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Robrr
join:2008-04-19
Toronto, ON | reply to sbrook
I assume they would also have to offer legacy support for many years after those contracts are up before they could pull the plug officially on CDMA. |
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sbrook
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| reply to mlerner
Remember this is HSPA overlaying the CDMA network, so it's going to take a while to build up the new network in terms of users, and until the network is widespread they'll still be selling CDMA phones. It's going to take at least a few years until they're transitioned (with all these 3 year contracts out there on new phones).
So, no, Rogers won't be in trouble. |
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mlerner
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join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON | reply to elwoodblues
Telus/Bell do not look at all attractive in comparison especially their data plans. It's only going to have an effect on current customers. |
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travisc
join:2001-11-09
Port Perry, ON | reply to elwoodblues
I think it's awfully early to suggest Rogers wireless is in trouble. They may be facing some new competitive pressures, yes. |
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dirtyjeffer
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join:2002-02-21
London, ON
·Rogers Hi-Speed
| reply to elwoodblues
and who knows what the coverage will be like when they launch their network anyway.
i think people that switch carriers quite often do so not for the hardware (although the iPhone is a strange one that way), but moreso for other reasons (like bad customer service experience, poor coverage, etc)...rarely did i have someone switch due to hardware, and on the off chance i did get one, i cautioned them on basing their decision on that alone.
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Stewy
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join:2007-12-12
Kitchener, ON | reply to elwoodblues
buff even with Bell or Telus in the mix with the iPhony you won't see any real competition either. |
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bt
join:2009-02-26
canada
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| reply to elwoodblues
said by elwoodblues  :On top all this there are rumors abound that Rogers does NOT have exclusive right to the iPhone. I thought that was pretty common knowledge... Unlike carriers in other countries, Rogers was the only Canadian carrier with a network that the iPhone would work with so they got defacto exclusivity instead of having to pay Apple for it. |
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elwoodblues
Elwood Blues
join:2006-08-30
Toronto, ON
| With BellER and Telus ready to launch GSM in early fall, will this now start to cut into the massive amount of revenue that Rogers has been experiencing?
On top all this there are rumors abound that Rogers does NOT have exclusive right to the iPhone.
»www.thestar.com/article/656939
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