Is Rogers Wireless in Trouble? in Rogers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22616573 en Wed, 02 Dec 2009 01:05:31 EDT Wed, 02 Dec 2009 01:05:31 EDT Re: Is Rogers Wireless in Trouble? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22627321 mlerner :
said by gsm234 :

Wonder if ROGERS will lease out access to Bell / Telus until they get their own network inplace?

If it's going to happen either way, Rogers may as well make some money from them in the process.
It's an overlay much like Rogers went through going from TDMA to GSM. They will not getting access from any other provider nor will they have roaming within the country. Telus and Bell are also partially funding so they could conceivably have most of the network up before the end of next year.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22627321 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:56:19 EDT Re: Is Rogers Wireless in Trouble? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22627290 sbrook : More like charge users for roaming!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22627290 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:50:28 EDT Re: Is Rogers Wireless in Trouble? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22627275 anon : Wonder if ROGERS will lease out access to Bell / Telus until they get their own network inplace?

If it's going to happen either way, Rogers may as well make some money from them in the process.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22627275 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:50:14 EDT Re: Is Rogers Wireless in Trouble? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22624532 anon : Rogers Wireless is definitely not in trouble.. they have a game plan for most scenarios any of the new entrants + Bellus will offer... as someone said, more competitive, yes... trouble, no.

But I would agree that they have the most to lose in terms of churn (as they are no. 1, so no where to go but down)... but I think we'll see more competitive plans in the next year or so, the winner will be the customers in the end (I hope!).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22624532 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:20:05 EDT Re: Is Rogers Wireless in Trouble? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22619053 howi : Robrr,

Certainly, the existing CDMA/CDMA2000 (and iDEN w/ TELUS as well) networks won't disappear for another long while. But we'd expect both Bell & TELUS will encourage their subscribers to migrate once the HSPA deployment becomes smooth sailing.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22619053 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 00:51:26 EDT Re: Is Rogers Wireless in Trouble? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22619041 howi : sbrook / dirtyjeffer

I've got the insider tips suggesting Bell & TELUS would set their benchmark relatively high: to meet or exceed what Rogers HSPA footprint and reliability within a set time frame.

To get some idea what their HSPA network would become, take a look on Page 6 & 7 in this PDF file...

»gsmworld.com/documents/GSMA_Feb_···elus.pdf

But as for Rogers, no sweat! It has been leading ahead of the pact and already paying off its investment in GSM migration already and now moving on w/ the WCDMA/UMTS/HSPA.

What would be interesting to see, is the new entrants: Quebecor, DAVE, Globalive, Public Wireless, etc. How well they will do & how long will they survive?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22619041 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 00:47:33 EDT Re: Is Rogers Wireless in Trouble? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22618946 Robrr : I assume they would also have to offer legacy support for many years after those contracts are up before they could pull the plug officially on CDMA.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22618946 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 00:10:08 EDT Re: Is Rogers Wireless in Trouble? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22617594 sbrook : Remember this is HSPA overlaying the CDMA network, so it's going to take a while to build up the new network in terms of users, and until the network is widespread they'll still be selling CDMA phones. It's going to take at least a few years until they're transitioned (with all these 3 year contracts out there on new phones).

So, no, Rogers won't be in trouble.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22617594 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:57:39 EDT Re: Is Rogers Wireless in Trouble? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22617565 mlerner : Telus/Bell do not look at all attractive in comparison especially their data plans. It's only going to have an effect on current customers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22617565 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:52:03 EDT Re: Is Rogers Wireless in Trouble? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22617131 travisc : I think it's awfully early to suggest Rogers wireless is in trouble. They may be facing some new competitive pressures, yes.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22617131 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:24:56 EDT Re: Is Rogers Wireless in Trouble? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22616896 dirtyjeffer : and who knows what the coverage will be like when they launch their network anyway.

i think people that switch carriers quite often do so not for the hardware (although the iPhone is a strange one that way), but moreso for other reasons (like bad customer service experience, poor coverage, etc)...rarely did i have someone switch due to hardware, and on the off chance i did get one, i cautioned them on basing their decision on that alone.
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said by elwoodblues See Profile :

On top all this there are rumors abound that Rogers does NOT have exclusive right to the iPhone.
I thought that was pretty common knowledge... Unlike carriers in other countries, Rogers was the only Canadian carrier with a network that the iPhone would work with so they got defacto exclusivity instead of having to pay Apple for it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22616773 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:25:06 EDT Is Rogers Wireless in Trouble? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22616573 elwoodblues : With BellER and Telus ready to launch GSM in early fall, will this now start to cut into the massive amount of revenue that Rogers has been experiencing?

On top all this there are rumors abound that Rogers does NOT have exclusive right to the iPhone.

»www.thestar.com/article/656939
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