 MaccawolfPremium join:2001-02-20 Hillsdale, NJ kudos:8 | Myth BUSTED I have no sympathy for him. He should READ the TOC just like everyone else. I don't know about anyone else, but I don't want to live in a nanny state where THEY look after me to keep me from doing something STUPID. -- Mom and Crockett...... I miss you both! |
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 1 edit | If you examine his Twitter feed you see that ATT claims 9GB of use, he is very aware of what the rates/Data use is. This case happens to involve ATT possibly being wrong about the data usage total, not him not knowing better. Wouldn't be the first time a carrier was wrong about data usage. -- OASAASLLS |
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 | reply to Maccawolf said by Maccawolf:I have no sympathy for him. He should READ the TOC just like everyone else. I don't know about anyone else, but I don't want to live in a nanny state where THEY look after me to keep me from doing something STUPID. Too late! |
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 funchordsHelloPremium,MVM join:2001-03-11 Yarmouth Port, MA kudos:6 1 edit | reply to Maccawolf said by Maccawolf:I have no sympathy for him. That says volumes about you and nothing about him.
said by Maccawolf:He should READ the TOC just like everyone else. My guess is that he read the TOC just like everyone else, which is to say that he either didn't read it or understand it because it was too long or too dense. Those things aren't meant for consumers to read, they're meant to protect the carrier from claims.
said by Maccawolf:I don't know about anyone else, but I don't want to live in a nanny state where THEY look after me to keep me from doing something STUPID. Be sure to wear your seat belt.
Surprise charges on telecom bills is very similar to the surprises folks would see on consumer loans. This is exactly the reason why loan applications have that big disclosure box giving out the key rates and fees in easy-to-read font. It's a useful tool.
These laws aren't there to protect you from yourself, they're there to protect you from the acts of others that just take advantage of the fact that you're a human being minding his own business. -- Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- District of Columbia -- KJ7RL |
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 | reply to Maccawolf said by Maccawolf: I don't know about anyone else, but I don't want to live in a nanny state where THEY look after me to keep me from doing something STUPID. The irony of this of course is that you live in NJ. |
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 | reply to canesfan2001 said by canesfan2001:If you examine his Twitter feed you see that ATT claims 9GB of use, he is very aware of what the rates/Data use is. This case happens to involve ATT possibly being wrong about the data usage total, not him not knowing better. Wouldn't be the first time a carrier was wrong about data usage. Doen't The Iphone do a lot of background data use?
Did thing it was on the rogers network and it endless tried to download some software over and over again? |
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I think his course of action now would be to look at the Canadian networked he tapped into. I haven't roamed yet so I don't know what the data would look like.
Thats what my 3G details look like from logging into my account. They show you each time you log on and the amount of data consumed.
9GB? Was he doing a remote backup? Uploading footage back to his home office? Was he the only person using the PC? Why did he bring his 3G card in the first place? I'm never bringing my card out side of the states. |
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 ee4 @comcast.net | reply to Maccawolf talk about stupid. try reading and understanding what you are reading. adam wants to make sure att can add right. |
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 rradina join:2000-08-08 Chesterfield, MO | reply to Joe12345678 Yes but the first month I had my iPhone I went nuts and still only managed to consume 1GB of download. It's now running no more than half that.
Unless Adam was taking and sending lots of big pictures or watching lots of streaming video, I don't know how he managed to use that much with an iPhone.
I assume we're talking about an iPhone here, right? If we're talking about a different phone to which he tethered a laptop or a laptop card, then 9GB isn't all that much. |
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Re: Myth BUSTED Isn't NJ the state attempting to pass a law to ban GPS operation in cars?
»www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,528088,00.html |
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 Jodokast96Stupid people really piss me off.Premium join:2005-11-23 Erial, NJ kudos:2 | God, I hate these assholes. |
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 | Here's the core of the problem... Ever hear some Congressman or State legislator say something on the news that makes you say "How'd he EVER get in office... you'd have to be a complete, f-***ing IDIOT to cast a vote for him!"?
He's just looking out for his core constituency! There's a *lot* of idiots out there, and we allow them all to vote.
Q: What do you get when you form a majority coalition of idiots, authoritarian leftists, and the corrupt or corruptible?
A. California
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-- It's absolutely certain that any given database will eventually corrupt itself -- that's why we make backups.
Too much data in one place is absolutely corrupting -- that's why we have the Second Amendment! |
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 KearnstdElf WizardPremium join:2002-01-22 Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to Maccawolf if he is smart the phone is registered to the show or M5, that way they can just write the 11k bill off come tax time as an expense! -- [65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports |
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 | reply to Jodokast96 It would probably be like the cell phone ban. A stupid feel good measure that is hardly enforced. |
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 | reply to KrazyDawg NJ also just passed the one gun a month bill. |
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 MichailPremium join:2000-08-02 Boynton Beach, FL kudos:1 | said by fifty nine:NJ also just passed the one gun a month bill. It's not really as bad as it sounds. They just don't want you to program the GPS while driving. It's not a good idea to do that anyway but I don't think it's worth making a law.
When I rented a GPS it came with the moving lock enabled. I disabled it so it could be operated by a passenger. |
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 1 edit | reply to Joe12345678 No. There is no background anything. You need push services on (per app), location services on, and the mail setting to be updated every x minutes for it to do anything in the "background".
Some points:
One, when i have my iPhone in airplane mode with wifi on, there is no extraneous activity on the router, even over several hours.
Two, over 2 lines and a month of serious web browsing, downloading apps, watching videos etc, our combined total is something like 300 megs. We were not going easy on our phones in the least bit, and ever since my iBook's dc board has been acting up i've been using my iPhone more & more.
Three. 2G data does not count towards the iPhone data plan cap. Unless he was in some amazingly well connected 3G area (which i'm not sure canada has, i don't have enough knowledge on the issue), there's no way you could even rack up 9 gigs over a month given the slower speeds vs wifi even with an iPhone 3Gs.
So, in conclusion, you can see the only way 9 gigs of download could be even possible is if he was using his phone every day all day every minute, which really isn't practical. Few hundred megs a day is what that would equate to. Unless he was tethering (which you can't do currently), or mistakenly using 3G vs wifi is the only thing i can see, even then.... I don't even use 9 gigs a month on my fios connection
Innocent.
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 | reply to fifty nine Heh, they don't pull you over, they read your plate & mail you the ticket.
It is enforced heavily, just in random patterns. 2 of my family members work in NJ and both require phones that can do hands free operation, speakerphone at the very least.
One of my friends had an employee going over the washington crossing bridge into NJ, and he was scrambling for his BT headset (hand on wheel eyes on road slowing down actually), but NJ state trooper was parked right at the gas station across the way there, sure enough he got a ticket in the mail 3 weeks later Not sure how much it was for tho.
Also, i've noticed that cops are going after tailgaters on the major highways. This ain't a race track, no drafting!
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