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poppster
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Comodo Internet Security.

Instead of having 4 different security programs running, how would CIS fare? My wife's machine isn't the latest or greatest, and is running Avast, PcTools Firewall Plus, SWT, and Boclean (discontinued as a stand alone, I know). Avast is my favorite free a/v, but how would CIS be? It would be nice to get rid of some of these standalone apps and free up some space for her.

Any suggestions, or comments? Anything is welcomed.

TIA,

Justin.
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lawrence171
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Re: Comodo Internet Security.

The firewall is very good (passes all leak tests when configured properly), but can get very annoying for novices.

The anti-virus scanner is horrible. The best score I saw it did was 70% detection rate which, is terrible when compared to McAfee or Norton.
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You're better off staying with your current setup, IMO. As stated above, Comodo AV has a poor detection rate and Comodo has issued security certs to known malware producers on that end of their business, making their business ethics questionable. Personally, I prefer stand alone products as layered security rather than suites that may be taken out or fail at once.

Grail Knight
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Re: Comodo Internet Security.

Do you use MS products?

Talk about questionable business practices over the years.
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mers2
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Re: Comodo Internet Security.

Difference being MS is not doing business with malware purveyors. I don't want the company I am relying on for the security of my computer to have any business dealings with the bad guys. I've stopped using other software for that.

As to MS, I'm currently splitting time between MS and Linux and will probably at some point go to Linux full time as I'm not please with some of the changes they've made to their OS that I'm not happy with.
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Grail Knight
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Re: Comodo Internet Security.

I still am willing to give Comodo the benefit of the doubt before dismissing the company as a whole. Like the Sony rootkit fiasco some users chanted "Boycott Sony" which is not practical considering only one division screwed up and Sony still makes one of the best portable Shortwave Radios around which I bought regardless of the root kit issue.

I do not believe Comodo sought out malware purveyors or even realized until after the fact as far as I know that they had sold or conducted business with them.
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mvdu
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Re: Comodo Internet Security.

I'm one of the ones staying away because of the toolbar thing and the certs controversy. No need for extra toolbar in a security product, and the response from Comodo to the certs thing has been lacking.

If you can get by that, the firewall is good.

Grail Knight
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Re: Comodo Internet Security.

Not sure what toolbar thing you are talking about unless it is when on installation you are asked if you want to install a toolbar in which case there are other free software programs including security programs that do this. I find not clicking through an install will avoid installing unwanted toolbars and search engines.
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mvdu
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Re: Comodo Internet Security.

The number of security products offering Ask toolbar is not great in number, and I have the same complaint in all cases.

Grail Knight
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Re: Comodo Internet Security.

Yours is a legit concern and I do not begrudge you that but I feel if the cost for a "free" program even security software is the request to install but decline a toolbar or search engine that is fine with me.
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mvdu
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Re: Comodo Internet Security.

I don't begrudge you either; it's a personal choice. If I knew that Comodo needs the money, which I don't, I might think differently. It's the certs issue and response that finally made me not use it, though I did not like the toolbar thing. IMO they have a security product, so they can lead on cert issuing.

Grail Knight
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Re: Comodo Internet Security.

People and companies make mistakes.

When choosing a security program IMO one must take into account software issues, security issues, company issues, support, history and then make a decision.

It is often hard for new users to discern which program to choose when a thread often turns into a platform of "My choice is best" or "This company is better then yours."
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mvdu
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Re: Comodo Internet Security.

I took those into account and decided not to use Comodo right now. Of course, I'll give them a second chance if they change their ways.

Grail Knight
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Re: Comodo Internet Security.

Enjoy whatever you choose.

Cheers!
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hayc59
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I have to agree with the other posters so far.
Stay with what you have minus the discontinued BoClean.
You could maybe add SpyWare Blaster for added protection.
Uses no extra resources.

Good luck!
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Bob1324
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Re: Comodo Internet Security.

It's getting a lot better:
»www.wilderssecurity.com/showthre···t=245766
It's free and native 64-bits.

Grail Knight
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I use CIS and like it. I do however do not use the AV component of CIS but went with Avast. No problems.
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Re: Comodo Internet Security.

said by Grail Knight See Profile :

I use CIS and like it. I do however do not use the AV component of CIS but went with Avast. No problems.
I would second that. Comodo minus its AV but plus Avast should be pretty solid. That leaves Comodo in both firewall and HIPS roles.

Comodo tends to get in your face a lot initially and after anything has changed. You need to make informed allow/deny choices.

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Sheesh! What kind of sites is your wife visiting that you need all that running anyway?

Shouldn't need anymore than the firewall and av, and personally, I never run av in real time either. Well, I do have Spybot's SDHelper. No teatimer.
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poppster
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Re: Comodo Internet Security.

said by cork1958 See Profile :

Sheesh! What kind of sites is your wife visiting that you need all that running anyway?

Shouldn't need anymore than the firewall and av, and personally, I never run av in real time either. Well, I do have Spybot's SDHelper. No teatimer.
myspace really....if one of her friends page gets hijacked it's all over.
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HA Nut
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IMO, swap out WinPatrol (free is good, paid better because it scans in real-time instead of periodically) for the discontinued BOClean and stay with the rest of what you have...

»www.winpatrol.com/

StraitShoot
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Just go with the new Microsoft Security Essentials Antivirus when it comes out of beta in a month or so.. It's free, light, and it's predecessor (LiveOne) had excellent detection!

As for Firewall, stay with the Windows one, use a router, or use something free..

Stem Bolt
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As other have already stated, Comodo's anti-virus is weak. Your wife is better off with Avast or Avira. The firewall is strong though. But I believe CIS comes with a HIPS compontent. Which requires answering quite a few security questions (allow/deny) programs to run or not. This can be confusing even to experienced computer users. I think your wife might not like have to deal with all the questions/prompts. This would most likely have to be disabled.

With all that said, I think your wife's current set up is pretty nice as it is. If she has not complained about any problems or issues, then why try to fix it?

You could try ThreatFire to replace Boclean/SWT. It's a free behavioral blocker made by the same people who make PcTools Firewall.

There are other internet security suites out there. I don't know if cost is an issue or not. Norton Internet Security 2009 is very nice. It's light and is easy to work with. It has a free trial. If you look on ebay, you can usually find a deal.
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Ravenheart

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Re: Comodo Internet Security.

said by Stem Bolt See Profile :

I think your wife might not like have to deal with all the questions/prompts. This would most likely have to be disabled.
Another approach might be to install Comodo and then exercise all the usual programs and deal with the prompts. Then you would be pretty much set until something upgrades.

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The two things that some people object to as far as Comodo goes are their continued issuance of security certificates to malware, as exposed by Mike Burgess in his hosts blog, here and here, and their bundling of the Ask toolbar with their security products.

Personally, I am willing to give them a second chance on both accounts, but I dumped their AV in favor of Avira Anti-Vir Free, after seeing that it did pretty poorly on a lot of tests, and on VirusTotal reports.
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Ravenheart

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Re: Comodo Internet Security.

Something was never clear to me...are certificate issuers expected to judge the content of sites? Do other issuers customarily do that?

oxymoron69

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For the past year the only firewall I run on my pcs is comodo.

poppster
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Re: Comodo Internet Security.

We love PCTools Firewall Plus, it has a hips module and it works very well, with minimal alerts. I was just really looking for an all-in-one package I guess.

»www.youtube.com/user/mrizos review of the new Microsoft A/V looks pretty promising too...
Mannus
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I run AVG free (nightly scans), ThreatFire (BoClean previously), and Peer Guardian 2. I also run behind a router and use Windows Firewall. This setup works for me.

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Just a little update. My wife's machine was acting kinda funny, so I did a boot time scan with Avast. It didn't find anything. Then Avast shut itself down and wouldn't respond or restart without a reboot. I then decided to try CIS 3.9 av and firewall. I tell you guys, it's pretty decent...it found 14 nasties on her machine (iwin games, I know...I know...) installed without a hitch and is very light on resources. I won't ditch Avast Pro on my machine however. I don't think it was a problem with avast so much, but a problem inside of her pc. Avast is still my first choice, but CIS is running very nicely on her machine, and taking up half of the resources that Avast did.

That is all.
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I've had CIS running on my cousins laptop for over a year with no problems other than the iwin games quarantine issue. She loves jewelquest. Anyway, I updated it yesterday from 3.8 to 3.10 with no problems.

On my laptop I use Avast Free, Threatfire Free and Comodo FW. I've yet to have any problems with this combo.
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