CanerisErik
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Toronto, ON |  Caneris Speed Test Server - open to the public
»speed.caneris.com
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Mike2009
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Norman Wells, NT | Re: Caneris Speed Test Server - open to the public It doesn't seem to be working for me. I'm getting an error. | |
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planiwa
join:2009-02-19
Toronto M5S
1 edit | Does anyone know of a speed-test that does *not* try to invade your system?
I really would rather do without ...
090627 15:53:02 /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/1.5/Commands/java[81649] Java has built shared archive /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/1.5.0/Libraries/classes.jsa
Is it really so impossibly hard to create and host a simple, unpretentious data-transfer test that uses only elementary facilities (eg: ftp, scp) and can be run even from a router or modem with a decent enough shell?
This particular test claimed 36 kbp/s DS on Safari and has paralyzed Opera!
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CanerisErik
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| Re: Caneris Speed Test Server - open to the public said by planiwa  :Does anyone know of a speed-test that does *not* try to invade your system? I really would rather do without ... 090627 15:53:02 /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/1.5/Commands/java[81649] Java has built shared archive /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/1.5.0/Libraries/classes.jsa Is it really so impossibly hard to create and host a simple, unpretentious data-transfer test that uses only elementary facilities (eg: ftp, scp) and can be run even from a router or modem with a decent enough shell? This particular test claimed 36 kbp/s DS on Safari and has paralyzed Opera! Unfortunately you're barking up the wrong tree. The Java and Flash speed test software is provided by DSLR.
If you have a suggestion for another speed test software, I'd be happy to look into installing it.
I don't understand what you mean by "invade your system" or "unpretentious" in this context.
I realize that both Java and Flash are a bit resource-intensive on the client side and as a result don't provide optimal performance, so again, if there's a suggestion for something better, I'm happy to hear it.
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| Re: Caneris Speed Test Server - open to the public Sorry Erik,
I know it's not your fault that matters are as they are.
I apologize for having used this occasion to express my annoyance with the ubiquitous trend towards veneer over substance. Had this come from Microsoft or Bell I wouldn't have bothered. 
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It doesn't seem hard, nor expensive, nor risky, for an ISP to provide an FTP server with 5 random-content files named:
333333
999999
3333333
9999999
33333333
(similarly for US -- restrict to own domain, or limit US files to under 5 MB, and delete after 5 min. restrict the whole thing to under X simultaneous streams, depending on available unused bandwidth.)
This would be of great value to many users, when what they need is a speed measurement without attitude and decorative complexity. (It would be a significant factor for me in choosing between ISPs to contract with and to recommend, since it would make it very much easier to diagnose certain common problems that are associated with much user frustration now.)
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CanerisErik
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| Re: Caneris Speed Test Server - open to the public No worries. Good idea, except a bit hard to implement and use for non-technical folks, requires an actual FTP client, etc.
These and other issues is largely why the speed tests are the way they are...the HTTP GET/POST way makes it super easy for those with a browser, especially those who have never heard of what FTP is, to run the test. It also streamlines the download and upload and displays the results nicely in the end, after performing multiple downloads and uploads of various sizes. And it's integrated with DSLR, so you can't fake the results when showing off your tests 
So, I think it can't be argued that it's easier, quicker, and more accurate for most users. Unfortunately most of these features can't be replicated easily without some sort of client-side plugin, like Java or Flash.
I tried to write my own speed test software last night and this morning and it doesn't seem very accurate so far. It's HTTP-based using mostly server-side stuff...about 300 lines of PHP and AJAX. Please try it out at »speed.caneris.com/new
You will need cookies and JavaScript enabled to use this.
This is my first attempt at it, so the results in this case for download/upload are based on average speed across your attempts...you would need to download/upload more files and download/upload the same files repeatedly, to get a more accurate result, otherwise you will see consistently lower numbers versus other speed tests.
If there's an interest, I'll continue developing this as an attempt to get a basic Java/Flash-free speed test software. I don't know how feasible it is to get an accurate result out of it just yet. It seems to be worse in IE than FF so far, but at least you can use your browser's UI to gauge the download speeds as you download the files.
Comments?
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Mike2009
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Norman Wells, NT | Re: Caneris Speed Test Server - open to the public Erik,
Is there anything wrong with your website? It takes forever to load today and I'm not talking about the speed test.
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CanerisErik
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| Re: Caneris Speed Test Server - open to the public said by Mike2009 :Erik, Is there anything wrong with your website? It takes forever to load today and I'm not talking about the speed test. Thanks, Mike Hmm...loads fine for me, from on-net. Pings normal, bandwidth graphs normal, and all clear on the monitoring.
Don't want to derail this thread too much, so could you please PM me some pings and a traceroute?
How about »https://portal.caneris.com or »mail.caneris.com? Same thing?
I'll try it from off-net shortly, it's a bit hard to do that right now.
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| said by Mike2009 :Erik, Is there anything wrong with your website? It takes forever to load today and I'm not talking about the speed test. Thanks, Mike Likewise from Sympatico. And the one time I tried it it gave a very low speed.
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CanerisErik
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Toronto, ON | Re: Caneris Speed Test Server - open to the public Thank you. We are investigating. I will post more details later on. | |
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Guspaz
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Montreal, QC | DSLR's iPhone speed test measures both upstream, downstream, and latency. And since the iPhone supports neither Java nor Flash, presumably it uses AJAX. No point re-inventing the wheel. | |
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CanerisErik
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| Re: Caneris Speed Test Server - open to the public said by Guspaz :DSLR's iPhone speed test measures both upstream, downstream, and latency. And since the iPhone supports neither Java nor Flash, presumably it uses AJAX. No point re-inventing the wheel. Thanks. I wasn't aware that they had one. I will see if they will let us use this version.
If not, we'll just continue to develop our own AJAX-based one...what I linked to before was a very preliminary version which I hacked together quickly and which didn't automate most of the steps yet.
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Mike2009
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Norman Wells, NT | It's working now. Thanks Erik.
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CanerisErik
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| Re: Caneris Speed Test Server - open to the public I didn't make any change. The Java version works for me. The flash doesn't...not sure why yet, but I don't think it's on our side, might be something with the DSLR software.
Where else can I test the flash speed test? Other ISPs seem to be using only DSLR's Java version.
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jfmezei
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Beaconsfield, QC | Re: Caneris Speed Test Server - open to the public Your buddies over at speedtest.teksavvy.com have (or had) both the flash and java versions. | |
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CanerisErik
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| Re: Caneris Speed Test Server - open to the public said by jfmezei :Your buddies over at speedtest.teksavvy.com have (or had) both the flash and java versions. Same issue with Flash...looks like it's trying to connect to DSLR and isn't working. I'll take a look in the logs and run a packet capture on our server to see what's up.
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CanerisErik
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Toronto, ON | The DSLR side appears to be down. I've PM'd the appropriate person. | |
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| Re: Caneris Speed Test Server - open to the public said by CanerisErik :The DSLR side appears to be down. I've PM'd the appropriate person. It's us, thanks for the heads-up, we're working on the issue. | |
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| Re: Caneris Speed Test Server - open to the public When I signed up with E-Box, I noticed some apparent performance problem. They had no problems setting up my web space so I could FTP files back and forth to measure performance and compare it with the speed tests.
Found out that the ftp performance on my alpha-vms box was lower than for OS-X/unix despite it having large window sizes etc.
Another way to measure performance is if you have a managed switch, the switch itself can give you current throughput on a port (the port going to the modem). | |
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macedon
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CanerisErik
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| Just a quick update: right now the problem appears to be with inbound TCP connections to certain networks only. It is intermittent. This is why you perceive it as slow speeds when doing HTTP but ping/traceroute, DNS, etc. all work fine. It is also why there are few complaints, everything outbound and everything on-net works fine. This appears to be an issue with one of our border routers not forwarding packets. It's a pretty bizarre issue...ICMP, UDP, outbound TCP, everything works, and on-net inbound TCP works, and off-net inbound TCP works sometimes. Still working on it.
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| Minimalist Speed Measurement: 4 files, that's all. I'll rephrase the essence of my message to minimize possible misinterpretation:
I wish that good ISPs would make available just 4 files of random data on a web server,
for the benefit of those users who want to do their own minimalist raw speed testing,
using modems, routers, etc., rather than complex hardware, software, and configurations,
or other "advanced" resources, or resource-greedy features, which may not be available,
or which may themselves be the cause of the "speed" problems that we seek to diagnose.
256k.dat
1024k.dat
4096k.dat
16384k.dat
[I doubt this is difficult, expensive, or risky.]
That's all. Nothing more.
Quite possibly, absolutely no one else is interested in this.
Please comment, critique, correct, improve, on any part of this.
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CanerisErik
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| Re: Minimalist Speed Measurement: 4 files, that's all. said by planiwa :I'll rephrase the essence of my message to minimize possible misinterpretation: I wish that good ISPs would make available just 4 files of random data on a web server, for the benefit of those users who want to do their own minimalist raw speed testing, using modems, routers, etc., rather than complex hardware, software, and configurations, or other "advanced" resources, or resource-greedy features, which may not be available, or which may themselves be the cause of the "speed" problems that we seek to diagnose. 256k.dat 1024k.dat 4096k.dat 16384k.dat [I doubt this is difficult, expensive, or risky.] That's all. Nothing more. Quite possibly, absolutely no one else is interested in this. Please comment, critique, correct, improve, on any part of this. But I have already done exactly that in my new speed test above!
If you look at the links I have there under Download Test, they are like this:
»speed.caneris.com/new/dn.php?size=256
»speed.caneris.com/new/dn.php?size=512
»speed.caneris.com/new/dn.php?size=768
Try it out. It does exactly what you wanted.
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Toronto M5S | Re: Minimalist Speed Measurement: 4 files, that's all. Thanks. (Seems that I was unable to URL the files before.) | |
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Mike2009
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Norman Wells, NT | Re: Caneris Speed Test Server - open to the public Works great now. Thanks. | |
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CanerisErik
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Toronto, ON | Thanks guys. | |
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1 edit | Re: Caneris Speed Test Server - open to the public Thanks. Have now remotely speed-measured several Tomato sites.
+ (Unfortunately none on Caneris Network. Looking forward to the day when the respective ISPs will offer 4 files to download: 256k 1024k 4096k 16384k.)
BTW, short-haul upload speed testing is not much of a problem, of course. | |
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JimmyArms
join:2008-01-09
Sault Ste Marie, ON | Yep, both seem to be working right.
New Test:
Down: 6078 kbps Up: 654 kbps
1rst one:
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Guspaz
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| I tried the new speed test, but it doesn't work on my iPhone; it requires that you manually download a file, and the iPhone doesn't support downloading (or possibly uploading? Didn't try that part, it might support uploading photos or videos) files. I think you need to do an XHR to measure downstream. | |
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CanerisErik
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| Re: Caneris Speed Test Server - open to the public said by Guspaz :I tried the new speed test, but it doesn't work on my iPhone; it requires that you manually download a file, and the iPhone doesn't support downloading (or possibly uploading? Didn't try that part, it might support uploading photos or videos) files. I think you need to do an XHR to measure downstream. Thanks. I actually wasn't developing it to work on iPhone, but that's a good idea to make it compatible with it as well. I'll see if the data can be sent inside XHR both ways (and hence also helping to automate the entire process completely) but also leave the option of downloading files directly so that users such as planiwa who want just the "raw files" can measure it themselves.
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Guspaz
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| Re: Caneris Speed Test Server - open to the public Why would you have bandwidth graph access for TekSavvy's speedtest server? | |
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CanerisErik
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| Re: Caneris Speed Test Server - open to the public said by Guspaz :Why would you have bandwidth graph access for TekSavvy's speedtest server? Heh...clearly I misread his screenshot...assumed it was taken using our server.
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| said by shubjero : Next time you cycle home from work past my house, trail a spool of fiber will ya? | |
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shubjero
join:2008-12-06 | hehe. Nah it was legit.. both those tests I posted are from my workstation at work. | |
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bitchtorn
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CanerisErik
Caneris
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Toronto, ON | Re: Caneris Speed Test Server - open to the public Works fine for me. Still having the problem? | |
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bitchtorn
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Peterborough, ON | Re: Caneris Speed Test Server - open to the public yeah, still broken.
It gets through half of the speed test... then that error comes up. | |
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1 edit | Re: Caneris Speed Test Server - open to the public It breaks after the 3.1 meg upload part.
using a ~7 down/~7 up connection. | |
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1 edit | Re: Caneris Speed Test Server - open to the public It works for me.
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Toronto, ON | I saw the same thing when I tried the speedtest earlier today as well | |
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CanerisErik
Caneris
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| Not sure what's going on, so I've PM'd the appropriate person at DSLR as it's their software. I was able to reproduce the error, but I'm not sure why it's happening.
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CanerisErik
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| Actually can you guys try it now? I think I messed it up before by accident. Had "LimitRequestBody 2048000" in the apache config. The software does need to be able to upload 5MB, so that should be working now. Sorry.
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bitchtorn
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Peterborough, ON | Re: Caneris Speed Test Server - open to the public Looks like you fixed it!
Was it a bug that only people with higher then 1meg upload would notice?
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CanerisErik
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| Re: Caneris Speed Test Server - open to the public said by bitchtorn :Looks like you fixed it! Was it a bug that only people with higher then 1meg upload would notice? Precisely. The "LimitRequestBody 2048000" in the apache config limits the HTTP requests to 2MB. I think I must've added that when making the beta non-flash/non-java version at »speed.caneris.com/new to enforce server-side limits on the upload, not realizing that will break the DSLR app. The DSLR app will variably upload files of certain sizes, and there are 3MB and 5MB files among those. I'll stop messing with things now
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