michaelriot
join:2009-03-07
| [AB] Private ADSL back haul between locations (modem-2-modem) I know telus used to allow private adsl between two location
We have the supernet at one of our locations (public school) and are now creating an outreach school.
I heard telus know longer allows this type of connection we used one at another location until about 6 months ago when the outreach school finally got connected to the supernet.
The alberta goverment is not that fast in getting supernet in new building. Understandable it requires a lot of work.
The area in question is NOT adsl (780-636-XXXX) thus could still have bridge taps ect. How much fighting am I going to have to do with telus to get something like this connected.
Back in the way we had to threaten to go to CRTC before they would move on it. They only ended up changing us mileage for doing this. But I remember reading that now telus will not do back to back interconnects can you some give me any info they might have on this. | |
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 Glynn023
join:2009-03-01 | Re: [AB] Private ADSL back haul between locations (modem-2-modem never heard of that at all on the res side... anyone here in business?
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jjthegreat
join:2004-06-17
Montreal, QC
| What you are looking for is a site to site type of t1. im pretty sure it will cost more than 1500 a month. That whole idea started going away when people found it was more cost effective to use site to site VPNs over existing high speed agreements.
Site to site T1 is about 1.5mbit bi directional.
Your milage may vary.
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michaelriot
join:2009-03-07 | No I am looking at using unloaded copper between locations using SDSL .... basically same speed as T1 but much lower rate... | |
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couttsj
@telus.net
| Re: [AB] Private ADSL back haul between locations (modem-2-modem said by michaelriot  :No I am looking at using unloaded copper between locations using SDSL .... basically same speed as T1 but much lower rate... He is asking about dry line (ie. no voltage). I once ran an internet service offering SDSL over dry line, long before Telus ever offered ADSL. Just tell them it's for an alarm circuit if they give you any hassle. You should be able to run 2 SDSL modems back to back connected by dry copper wire. There is usually a limitation of about 19,000 feet. | |
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AnonDSLGuy
@telus.net
| They still sell alarm circuits but it won't be with metallic continuity (hence nothing above ~4khz, so no DSL).
They stopped doing this when they started caring about spectral compatibility with ADSL services. Their were too many wild west scenarios with people running SDSL/HDSL back-to-back modems in the opposite directions as ADSL services. Since the SDSL tones would completely overlap with the upstream bins and first few megs of the downstream bins, it would wreck havok with residential ADSL services. They still sell HDSL service, offered as a 'T1', but since its managed by TELUS its kept in a separate binder group to mitigate alien crosstalk on ADSL services.
Like others in this thread mention, be prepared to spend > $1k/month for such service. | |
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couttsj
@telus.net
| Let's assume that AnonDSLGuy is correct and that hard copper connection is no longer available. The excuse given is a bunch of hog wash, but it is their network and they make the rules. A T1 connection is right out to lunch cost wise, but if you are close enough to use back-to-back DSL modems, then you may be able to use radio modems. All you need is line of sight to operate at 2.4 or 5.1 GHz. | |
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