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<title>Topic &#x27;Re: Motorolla Canopy problem, or something else?&#x27; in forum &#x27;Wireless Users Chat&#x27; - dslreports.com</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 09:03:01 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[iansltx posted : You're thinking of regular P2P. All the torrent clients I've seen are very clear about when they're uploading and downloading, and it's a quick thing to kill everything and exit.<br><br>However to put all doubts to rest, if you're using uTorrent set your profile to xx/64k or something similarly low. That should choke uploads down to pretty much nothing.<br><br>Personally though it looks like there isn't a fat enough pipe in your area to cope with the load.<br><br>One thing you could try is the speedtest at &raquo;<A HREF="http://testmy.net" >testmy.net</A> and/or the one at &raquo;<A HREF="http://performance.toast.net" >performance.toast.net</A>. They're simpler tests (downloading a file via HTTP and timing the donwload) and are more indicative of congested networks to nitpickers when things go wrong.<br><br>What's nice about the TOAST.net test is you can do the image test and it's a relatively large image. As it loads in your browser you can actually see connection quality issues as pauses in the image load.<br><br>Heck, if you need a bigger image to test I'm sure I could scrounge something out from my stuff around here :)<br><br>Or for a more scientific test, use a more advanced speed-and-latency-and-connection-quality test like the one at &raquo;<A HREF="http://voipreview.org/voipspeedtester.aspx" >voipreview.org/voipspeedtester.aspx</A>. The test requires Java (I think it needs Sun's version, not Microsoft's lamer attempt at the platform) but you'll get pretty graphs of how your connection is faring.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:25:15 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[shorthairedp posted : remember most torrent clients install a service that runs in the background]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:30:45 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[macadami posted : no i do not leave the torrent client running, my upload does remain somewhat higher than downloads on speedtest.net and torrents though. usually 25k-50k upload<br><br>it is just my down and latency that is affected]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:31:21 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[milbrath posted : Are you running torrents, or is the torrent client on when downloading from other sites? Your ISP might be shaping your line when it detects torrents.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:13:04 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[macadami posted : well torrents are getting 2-3k max where they used to be 20-40k average, downloads from things like speedtest.net are 10k max, most that i've done are 5k or lower ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 22:27:39 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[wirelessdog posted : What kind of downloads are you doing? It sounds like you are describing p2p downloads or torrents...]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 22:04:44 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[macadami posted : Well for 5 days now the problem has been none stop. I've traced the latency to 64.217.184.197 which is a point in a larger city. My thinking is, my isp's pipe is indeed too small and the connection from it to a larger pipe is getting bogged down.<br><br>I've only managed to get 10k downloads max, with 2-3kb down being average, and latency is from 300ms-1200ms with lots of request timed out's. So my new question is, what do you guys recommend me telling my isp? I'm not a lawyer, nor have i read up on any cases related to 'paid services' but at $60 a month for 512kb and a 700 installation fee upfront, I'm thinking the least they owe me is half that bandwidth.<br><br>If this was a cable tv provider, and the contract stated 50 channels, and i only got 3, something would have to be done. <br><br>I hope my post hasn't fell too far behind for anyone to post, any recommendations will be greatly appreciated.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 00:51:26 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : I pressed start on the speedtest then started the tracert<br><br>1.66mb down .46mb up is what it said<br><br>Thank you very much for replying, i was afraid no one was going to help me :[<br><br>Tracing route to google.com [74.125.127.100]<br>over a maximum of 30 hops:<br><br>  1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  192.168.1.1<br>  2   852 ms   683 ms   371 ms  172.16.0.1<br>  3   271 ms   272 ms   268 ms  70.254.63.1<br>  4   348 ms   223 ms   203 ms  64.217.184.197<br>  5   326 ms   398 ms   215 ms  151.164.94.231<br>  6   117 ms    58 ms   144 ms  69.220.8.59<br>  7    93 ms    79 ms   154 ms  72.14.197.113<br>  8   216 ms   218 ms   218 ms  66.249.94.94<br>  9   197 ms   210 ms   198 ms  216.239.47.121<br> 10    52 ms    59 ms    39 ms  209.85.242.21<br> 11   134 ms    93 ms   389 ms  216.239.48.50<br> 12   110 ms   104 ms    89 ms  209.85.248.129<br> 13   114 ms   129 ms   131 ms  216.239.46.208<br> 14   107 ms   103 ms   104 ms  64.233.174.127<br> 15   109 ms   123 ms   109 ms  216.239.46.6<br> 16   193 ms   299 ms   319 ms  pz-in-f100.google.com [74.125.127.100]<br><br>Trace complete.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 17:51:48 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : Any chance of seeing that same tracert while you're running a speedtest online?<br><br>I'm going to assume 192.168.1.1 is your internal router<br><br>172.16.0.1 is the NAT'ed gateway on the Canopy system. <br>Then 70.254.63.1 is your isp(Strong Services2)'s Gateway.<br><br>If your high latency seems to happen after your isp's gateway. Then it's very possible that your providers pipe is saturated. and when you pass traffic of your link, the qos system is limiting your overall bandwidth beyond that point. Hence the higher latencies when you run any data. <br><br>If you see high latencies before that point, the bottleneck is likely internal. <br><br>if that were the case the radio could be the culprit, or a low signal strength or a overloaded AP on the tower you're connected to. ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:52:56 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[macadami posted : Tracing route to google.com [74.125.45.100]<br>over a maximum of 30 hops:<br>  0  mainpc [192.168.1.100]<br>  1  192.168.1.1<br>  2  172.16.0.1<br>  3  70.254.63.1<br>  4  64.217.184.197<br>  5  151.164.94.233<br>  6  69.220.8.57<br>  7  72.14.197.109<br>  8  66.249.94.94<br>  9  72.14.238.243<br> 10  72.14.232.215<br> 11  209.85.253.137<br> 12     *        *     yx-in-f100.google.com [74.125.45.100<br><br>Computing statistics for 300 seconds...<br>            Source to Here   This Node/Link<br>Hop  RTT    Lost/Sent = Pct  Lost/Sent = Pct  Address<br>  0                                           mainpc [192.1<br>                                0/ 100 =  0%   |<br>  1    0ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  192.168.1.1<br>                                0/ 100 =  0%   |<br>  2  ---     100/ 100 =100%   100/ 100 =100%  172.16.0.1<br>                                0/ 100 =  0%   |<br>  3   16ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  70.254.63.1<br>                                0/ 100 =  0%   |<br>  4   31ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  64.217.184.19<br>                                0/ 100 =  0%   |<br>  5  ---     100/ 100 =100%   100/ 100 =100%  151.164.94.23<br>                                0/ 100 =  0%   |<br>  6  ---     100/ 100 =100%   100/ 100 =100%  69.220.8.57<br>                                0/ 100 =  0%   |<br>  7   28ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  72.14.197.109<br>                                0/ 100 =  0%   |<br>  8   28ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  66.249.94.94<br>                                0/ 100 =  0%   |<br>  9   68ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  72.14.238.243<br>                                0/ 100 =  0%   |<br> 10   68ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  72.14.232.215<br>                                0/ 100 =  0%   |<br> 11   70ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  209.85.253.13<br>                               60/ 100 = 60%   |<br> 12   63ms    60/ 100 = 60%     0/ 100 =  0%  yx-in-f100.go<br>00]<br><br>Trace complete.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 07:22:45 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[shorthairedp posted : run pathping to that ip]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 23:33:16 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[macadami posted : Tracing route to google.com [74.125.45.100]<br>over a maximum of 30 hops:<br><br>  1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  192.168.1.1<br>  2    26 ms    19 ms    22 ms  172.16.0.1<br>  3    27 ms    64 ms    45 ms  70.254.63.1<br>  4   296 ms   154 ms    54 ms  64.217.184.197<br>  5    48 ms   193 ms    44 ms  151.164.94.233<br>  6    29 ms    33 ms    39 ms  69.220.8.57<br>  7    74 ms   233 ms    64 ms  72.14.197.109<br>  8    69 ms    64 ms    33 ms  66.249.94.94<br>  9   153 ms   164 ms    99 ms  72.14.238.243<br> 10   114 ms   203 ms   243 ms  72.14.232.215<br> 11   243 ms   113 ms    79 ms  209.85.253.133<br> 12     *        *       80 ms  yx-in-f100.google.com [74.125<br><br>Trace complete.<br><br>this was with no other internet traffic]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 19:39:37 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[me1212 posted : A tracert may help.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 19:34:19 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[macadami posted : I have no other option for an ISP that would provide low enough latency for games and despite getting raped on the price, the service has been decent up until recently. <br><br>I pay 60 a month for 512k connection, latency used to be 60-100ms fairly steady with default ping settings, and i could get close to 50K downloads on a good day. Now however my latency seems to randomly spike from 60-250ms and often higher with timeouts. I play counter strike source online, and usage of just 15k bandwidth causes my ping to go into the 300-600ms range. This happens randomly throughout the day sometimes lasting for hours. I've been keeping a steady ping -t going to the city where the servers i play on are located and even when i'm getting consistent sub 100ms responses loading up CS:S and using 10-15k bandwidth causes timeouts and the latency to shoot up. This is the same for all traffic when this happens, not just related to that location.<br><br>I've done tracerts and it -seems- that the latency is occuring after my packet leaves my ISP, but honestly i'm not savy on deciphering which ip's go to where. The first 3 hops are sub 50ms though. <br><br>If anyone has any idea on how i could fix this, or if i should complain to my isp, or even if they have a way i can monitor the problem to see when i can play and when i can't that'd be great<br><br>Also i'm spamware/virus free, I have the same problem on clean fresh install systems and i know nothing about my hardware except that it's a antenna mounted on a 4foot pole 50 ft from my house that cost me $700 for hardware and installation.<br><br>I'll retrieve any information i can to help anyone help me, i'm new to wireless internet, but somewhat familiar with networks, and it's a mom and pop ISP located in east texas and the few times i've spoken with them, I had to explain what ping was.<br><br>Any help will be greatly appreciated]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 19:09:43 EDT</pubDate>
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