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Free Lunch (Way before Robert A. Heinlein's lifetime.)
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_lunch quote: The phrase free lunch, in U. S. literature from about 1870 to 1920, refers to a tradition once common in saloons in many places in the United States. These establishments included a "free" lunch, varying from rudimentary to quite elaborate, with the purchase of at least one drink. These free lunches were typically worth far more than the price of a single drink.[1] The saloon-keeper relied on the expectation that most customers would buy more than one drink, and that the practice would build patronage for other times of day.
Sometimes, free food or drink is supplied today, often by gambling establishments.
The saying "there ain't no such thing as a free lunch", often abbeviated to TANSTAAFL, refers to this custom, meaning that things which appear to be free are always paid for in some way.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TANSTAAFL quote: TANSTAAFL is an acronym for the adage "There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch" originating in the late 1930s and later popularized by science fiction writer Robert A. Heinlein in his 1966 novel The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress
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| reply to cheryllj on a premium sports channel here, there're ads selling fancy ware like towels and extended warranties. Oddly, when i typed the names into google, the first few search results either showed "SCAM!!!" or duped buyers suggesting much cheaper alternatives.
If it's a legit company selling usable stuff, the first few search results would most likely be corporate info instead of "SCAM!"... |
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@bellsouth.net | reply to pcdebb I have done banking for over 6 years .you can put in a dispute with your cc company, or you bank if you used a debit card. and they will take care of the unauthorized charges for you. |
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I have done banking for over 6 years .you can put in a dispute with your cc company, or you bank if you used a debit card. and they will take care of the unauthorized charges for you. You sure about the debit card? There's often less protection for debit card (v. credit card) victims, iirc. |
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join:2009-01-23 Califon, NJ | reply to darthboy There's even a towel scam out there? |
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| reply to rzaruba said by rzaruba :"Why are the radio stations allowed to run the ads without warnings?" Because they don't care. I can only listen to WOR here in the NY area for a few minutes every morning before I get sick. It used to be a flagship station, now virtually every ad is for a scam or quack remedy. It's not that they don't care (well, maybe some don't...), it's the ad revenue. In the current economic situation, ad revenue has taken a huge dump and they're desperately trying to get some back. Because of this, media sales departments nationwide have lowered the bar (a lot) on what they will accept. They know the ads are shaky but the (lack) of revenue streams demand it.
Ad revenue is damn near the only thing a lot of media has going for them. -- 3500/512 5.7 GHz Motorola Canopy Wireless; FoxValley.net 'It looks just like a Telefunken U47 !' |
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  rzaruba
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1 edit | quote: Ad revenue is damn near the only thing a lot of media has going for them.
Ad revenue is damn near the only thing a lot of the scammers have going for them.
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| reply to Whip said by Whip :There's even a towel scam out there? Sure, it's called called the ScamWOW. |
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  pcdebb RIP dadkins Premium join:2000-12-03 Tampa, FL clubs: 
| reply to cheryllj this scam is getting harder to fight against. it's getting alot of airtime on the radio here, and in other cities i'm hearing. my stepdad walks up to me today and tells me "you should check out this site. my daughters told me about it and they checked it out and you should too, it's called nevergiveitback or something". It's bad enough he's a Mr. Know-it-all as it is, but for me to try and tell him it's a scam didn't really hold water for the simple fact that he heard it on the radio so it MUST be legit.
i just simply told my mom for her not to even think about it or she will have to change her card number because if he (or his daughters) fell victim, we will be hearing the stories soon of money disappearing from their accounts. -- | map your city | tweet | |
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| ..., but for me to try and tell him it's a scam didn't really hold water for the simple fact that he heard it on the radio  so it MUST be legit. The amount of radio advertising for obvious scams, and for dubious sounding business that may well be scams, is really troubling. -- AT&T dsl; Speedstream 5100b modem; Zyxel NBG334W router; openSuSE 11.0; firefox 3.0.12 |
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  Miss Miami
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| reply to cheryllj If you do want to take chances online you should order you a pay as you go card they are unlimited and if its a scan order another one but im glad i read some of these comments because i would be at my radio station locked and loaded ready for war because i have no money to loose and when you here it on the radio it gives you a little hope that it might be true i think this world is all albout money and our own gov. does not even care about the people who help keep this country afloat how sad is that. money the root of all evil. |
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money the root of all evil. That is a common misquote. The actual phrase is, "The love of money is the root of all evil." -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
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  Doctor Olds I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me. Premium,VIP join:2001-04-19 1970 442 W30 clubs:
| »www.calicocat.com/2004/05/is-mon···vil.html quote: It is a common saying that money is the root of all evil. According to the Random House Dictionary of Proverbs and Sayings, the phrase first appeared in English circa 1000 A.D. The saying originated in the New Testament. For the love of money is the root of all evil. Timothy, 6:10.
Its obviously one of those sayings that has as great deal of staying power, having been around for two thousand years and still going strong. But how fair is it to blame all evil, or even any evil, on a medium of exchange?
I think it would be a much more accurate statement to say that the root of most evil is mans desire for status; either greed to increase ones status, or jealousy over losing in the status game to others. Money is the most obvious measure of ones status, so its easy to confuse the two, but they are certainly not the same thing at all. Money is just one way of keeping score. Blaming money for evil is like blaming the scoreboard for the baseball game.
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 NormanS Premium,MVM join:2001-02-14 San Jose, CA | Yeah, well. Love of money is what drives the desire for status and power. |
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| reply to cheryllj GRANTS360.com
ok i'm so thankful to all of y'all for posting what u did. it stopped me from filling out some stuff on grants360.com.
i applied for food stamps and an email was sent to me that i thought was from the food stamps office saying that i qualified for more grants... blahblahblah... the link led to grants360. i'm naturally skeptical of anything "free" (well, food stamps are from the state, not some website i've never heard of lol) so i tried checking the websites authenticity before proceeding..... i almost bought the gimmick and gave my info. but then i saw the posts made here.
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1 edit | reply to cheryllj Re: [Scam] Never Pay it Back .com
I was wondering why the noise level for this SCAM had died down. Knowing that fraudsters never pack up and go home, I decided to go back and have another look:
NEVERPAYITBACK.COM which used to look like this:

Now has:
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Thanks for taking the time to stop by...
If you are in need of GSS Support... have your Transaction ID ready ...and then please call 1 877 495-1145 24/7 for Immediate Assistance.
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The number 877-495-1145 only tells part of the story: »www.google.com/search?hl=en&sour···oq=&aqi=
The tandem website NEVERGIVEITBACK.COM which once served:

now shows: ===========================
Thank You For Visiting... We Are No Longer Taking Opt-ins. For Support Please eMail - Support@NeverGiveItBack.com
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At least they are using the correct verb, "take".
I need to go pull my old notes on this operation.
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