[iPhone] EDGE vs 3G for Voice in All Things Macintosh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22622605 en Wed, 02 Dec 2009 07:27:28 EDT Wed, 02 Dec 2009 07:27:28 EDT Re: [iPhone] EDGE vs 3G for Voice http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22648465 iLive4Apple : Up until now the 3G network was better for calls because AFAIK AT&T doesn't use the AMR-HR codec on W-CDMA, which is the Half rate crap codec widely used on the GSM network to increase capacity by 50%. And another advantage is if the network is properly deployed it shouldn't handover to GSM therefore you should always have soft handoff's. Of course with the new supposed N-SET being put into place, calls will not automatically go through 3G for most phones.
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said by WALL_E See Profile :

Also, just from my observable experience, it seems like EDGE is better able to penetrate buildings. There are locations were I receive full 3G signal outside, but must use EDGE inside in order to maintain a signal (the transition is handled automatically).
I just switched from a 2G iPhone to the 3GS and now I keep almost full signal in the elevator of my office building, whereas before with EDGE it would completely die off with no service.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22631316 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:05:44 EDT Re: [iPhone] EDGE vs 3G for Voice http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22629698 trparky : Even though I have a 3GS I still use EDGE for both phone and data. I find that EDGE is good enough for data.
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said by a333 See Profile :

Here ya go...

»AT&T's 2G Customers See A Downgrade

Cheers,
a333
My personal comparison wasn't impacted by that if that actually took place in my area.
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»AT&T's 2G Customers See A Downgrade

Cheers,
a333]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22628306 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:52:30 EDT Re: [iPhone] EDGE vs 3G for Voice http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22627808 obeythelaw :
said by PhoenixDown See Profile :

For what its worth, I had the original iphone (edge) for just shy of two years and upgraded last week to the 3GS. It seems I get better voice and data penetration and reception with the 3GS. Its a little too early for me to tell just yet but I haven't had any dropped calls yet either. It was infrequent on the original iphone but it happened enough that I noticed.
I've noticed that where I am on Edge with my first gen iphone, my girlfriend who has the 3GS gets better reception than I do in the same building (that is, in the same exact spot). So I think 3G is better for overall signal and reception than EDGE. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22627808 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:23:52 EDT Re: [iPhone] EDGE vs 3G for Voice http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22627758 scots :
said by grazed See Profile :

I'm almost positive you're wrong. I've never heard of them moving off of edge. A link with proof would be nice.
They're not moving off of EDGE yet, and I don't see where anyone here has said that was happening. They're starting to add 3G to the 850MHz band in some areas to allow better building penetration with 3G.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22627758 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:15:16 EDT Re: [iPhone] EDGE vs 3G for Voice http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22626899 grazed : I'm almost positive you're wrong. I've never heard of them moving off of edge. A link with proof would be nice.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22626899 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 07:08:59 EDT Re: [iPhone] EDGE vs 3G for Voice http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22626590 djrobx :
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There is no difference. Your voice traffic is not going through the fat 3g pipe.
False - On AT&T, if you're in 3G mode you're using the 3G network for voice calls. The phone cannot be in both modes at the same time. 3G utilizes less compression for better voice quality. AT&T is in the process of moving 3G to the 850mhz band, which should help with building penetration and dropped call issues.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22626590 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:11:41 EDT Re: [iPhone] EDGE vs 3G for Voice http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22626424 PhoenixDown : For what its worth, I had the original iphone (edge) for just shy of two years and upgraded last week to the 3GS. It seems I get better voice and data penetration and reception with the 3GS. Its a little too early for me to tell just yet but I haven't had any dropped calls yet either. It was infrequent on the original iphone but it happened enough that I noticed.
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From experience, though it seems that would only happen most/some of the time on my Motorola phones, and those were (generally) very reliable phones (web browser nonwithstanding!) Here we are talking about phones that run OS X iPhone - I love Apple but I also know the company like the back of my hand, this is the same iPhone using the same software as my iPod Touch that reports 1 bar of signal sitting next to my router but 4 bars sitting outside the house!

A first gen iPhone is probably not nearly as reliable as a 3G one, and a 3G one on EDGE? I have nothing to say lol. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22623897 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:20:08 EDT Re: [iPhone] EDGE vs 3G for Voice http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22623835 grazed : There is no difference. Your voice traffic is not going through the fat 3g pipe. Thus why you can stream data and talk at the same time. Depending on the phone, voice is going over Edge or GPRS.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22623835 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:03:00 EDT Re: [iPhone] EDGE vs 3G for Voice http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22623574 TearAbite : Thanks, that explains it..
and yes, i meant "data".. it was late..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22623574 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:49:08 EDT Re: [iPhone] EDGE vs 3G for Voice http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22622893 WALL_E : When the iPhone is connected to the EDGE network, data and voice communications cannot occur at the same time. So, if you are using a radio streaming app, you will not receive a phone call.

With 3G, on the other hand, data and voice can be transmitted simultaneously, so you will receive a call during data usage.

Also, just from my observable experience, it seems like EDGE is better able to penetrate buildings. There are locations were I receive full 3G signal outside, but must use EDGE inside in order to maintain a signal (the transition is handled automatically).

EDIT: Note also that 3G uses more power than EDGE. If battery life is your primary concern and you do not plan on using the data connection for a period of time, you may want to disable 3G and force your phone to use EDGE to eak out as much time from the battery as possible.
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said by TearAbite See Profile :

the differences between EDGE and 3G for voice are obvious, but what, if any advantages are their to using 3G for voice?
I believe you meant the difference between edge and 3G are obvious for data.

As far as for voice, 3G seems to drop calls more often.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22622861 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 03:24:55 EDT Re: [iPhone] EDGE vs 3G for Voice http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22622736 joeybee : More bandwidth less compression.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22622736 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:51:25 EDT Re: [iPhone] EDGE vs 3G for Voice http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22622711 Thinkdiff :
said by TearAbite See Profile :

the differences between EDGE and 3G for voice are obvious, but what, if any advantages are their to using 3G for voice?
Is this some kind of philosophical question? ;)
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