Mero
| Road Runner - Docsis 3 news?
Any updates regarding Docsis 3 coming soon or ever? Would be nice if we had an update on this.
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JonRup
join:2008-07-20
Hilliard, OH | No it's too expensive for Time Warner
-Jon |
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Rombus
Premium
join:2007-04-11
Columbus, OH | There is internal testing going on. But no dates for rollout AFAIK |
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FHBroadband
join:2009-04-15 | Is NYC still on for December 2009? |
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maartena
Stacked.
Premium
join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
 ·RoadRunner Cable
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There is a rumor that they MAY start testing DOCSIS3 some time in 2011, and are targeting for the first cities to be rolled out in 2014.
But that is just a rumor and speculation.
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WyckedKnight
join:2004-07-12
Van Nuys, CA | reply to Mero
TWC i don't think wants to roll sDOCSis 3 out at all. this way in areas like mine which is still using DOcsis 1.1 they can call it a brownout and impose their BS caps policy. |
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Pizz
Hi
join:2000-10-27
Astoria, NY
 ·Verizon Online DSL
·RoadRunner Cable
| Direct competition markets will see some docsis 3.0 rollouts, but i dont not see them going full steam ahead like Comcast is doing. TWC has a bunch of retards running their company, and if they have to take increase any sort of spending, without getting 50000% markup, they won't do it. Docsis 1.1 will be milked for quite awhile.
Btw the cap trial cities that made TWC scrap the idea..Probably will not be seeing docsis 3.0 because TWC decided you, didnt play nice with them, so no docsis 3.0 for you!
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hobgoblin
Sortof Agoblin
Premium
join:2001-11-25
Orchard Park, NY
clubs: | I just love speculation.
Hob |
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NSA_CIA
@rr.com | Excuse me while I go pet my D3 CMTS... |
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Dampier
Phillip M Dampier
join:2003-03-23
Rochester, NY
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Time Warner is on its projected schedule to roll out DOCSIS 3 in the metropolitan NYC area by the end of this year.
Company officials have not announced any additional specific cities at this time, but claimed they would progress towards additional rollouts in selected cities as market conditions warrant.
What this means in reality is that they will not allow themselves to fall significantly behind a comparable competitor (muni fiber broadband, AT&T U-verse, or Verizon FiOS). |
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FHBroadband
join:2009-04-15 | Yeah Ive been told that Verizon FIOS upgraded speeds for the NYC Market.
My area looks like it will be getting FIOS as well in the near future. So it will likely be a Docsis 3.0 vs FIOS race. |
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maartena
Stacked.
Premium
join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
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said by hobgoblin  :I just love speculation. I'm not expecting TWC to release anything on the subject, such as "planned for 4th quarter 2009 are these and these cities", so speculation is all we have 
Only TWC themselves can give us the FACTS on TWC and Docsis 3.0, and they aren't talking.
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Pizz
Hi
join:2000-10-27
Astoria, NY
·Verizon Online DSL
·RoadRunner Cable
| They'll implement Docsis 3 in every single franchise, if you allow TWC to put in their original CBB plans. Hell i'll even go out with full blown speculation. Docsis 3 tiers will have a paltry 25,75,100gigs - each being 39.99, 59.99, 79.99 - with 1 dollar per gig for each overage.
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Dareius
Self proclaimed Premium member
join:2002-11-12
Elmhurst, NY | reply to Mero
Hope they get it out before 2012.
Supposedly that is when the world is going to end. Earth will be colliding with a big chunk of green space cheese.  |
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FHBroadband
join:2009-04-15
| FIOS is being laid and hopefully comes to where I am soon.
TWC has said they will do Docsis 3.0 here by December and I bet they will when FIOS is more deployed and the economy starts picking back up and the like.
I don't see Time Warner changing plans for Docsis 3.0 in NYC considering FIOS is raising speed tiers in NY markets and will be out to more of NYC as time goes on. |
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Matt
Gone playing Dragon Age Origins
Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC | reply to Mero
They were supposed to roll it out in the Greensboro market along with usage based billing trials, but I believe pulled the plug on it? |
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hobgoblin
Sortof Agoblin
Premium
join:2001-11-25
Orchard Park, NY
clubs: | reply to maartena
I doubt 99% of the subscribers have any clue what Docsis 3.0 is!
Hob |
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MacAlert
join:2005-03-16
Flushing, NY
1 edit | I bet 99% of TWC employees don't know what DOCSIS 3 is.
Let's not forget it was one of TWC's executives who said they don't see the need for higher internet speeds. |
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hobgoblin
Sortof Agoblin
Premium
join:2001-11-25
Orchard Park, NY
clubs:
| "I bet 99% of TWC employees don't know what DOCSIS 3 is."
and I'd take your money.
"Let's not forget it was one of TWC's executives who said they don't see the need for higher internet speeds."
Today.....he is probably right.
Hob
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"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."
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FHBroadband
join:2009-04-15
4 edits | reply to MacAlert
NYC will go Docsis 3.0 to compete with Verizon FIOS.
Verizon is wiring up new areas in NYC as we speak.
99% of employees don't know what Cablelabs is? Well most employees for companies on the bottom of the ladder are quite unknowledgable on their own product lines.
Bright people who don't know about telecommunications products won't know either although they know about cablemodems and broadband in general.
However, customers do know SPEED and want faster and better technologies to emerge.
They know what fiber optics is and the like.
I can say that Andy Grove of Intel knows what Cablelabs is as he mentioned it with Charlie Rose straight up. If Intel knows what it is, and makes the majority and the best of the worlds processors for computers, you can bet your bottom dollar that we will up the pipe.
Why it hasn't been done as of yet I can't answer. I am hoping it is the 8 channel Docsis 3.0 product.
Remember there is a ton of things that go on including spectrum allocation and the like. Extensive trials and field tests need to be done and maybe even tweaking of the networks themselves.
"Now, only days after the Broadcom announcement, Cisco has revealed its plan to develop a new DOCSIS 3.0 modem based on the Broadcom silicon. According to Multichannel News, the device will be submitted for CableLabs certification this spring, with widespread deployment scheduled for 2010."
Time Warner could very well be readying its Cablelabs docsis 3.0 8 channel product since Verizon FIOS is raising its speed tiers.
Time Warner has every reason to migrate to Docsis 3.0 and they know it.
You can't succeed as a cable firm unless you offer technological changes especially in the New York City market with FIOS, Time Warner and RCN in some markets.
Residential broadband is not a commercial grade product and has to be done to a very large scale using shared OC Pipes and the like and the last mile is the most expensive and challenging part to get accomplished.
Time Warner has the last mile, Verizon FIOS is building the last mile, RCN has partially built out the last mile and AT&T owns huge central offices and facilities and could really build out its own network as well if it wanted to since it has successfully deployed U-Verse elsewhere. The lack of a product better than AT&T DSL is a disappointment. But with so much competition between FIOS and Time Warner and with partial competition, I don't see AT&T spending billions to build out U-Verse to NYC.
Docsis 3.0 needs to get done. It is the future. Docsis 3.0 is needed for society. |
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