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tschmidt
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Re: When will HD be the standard?

said by Greg_Z See Profile :

Doubtful that for some time that you will start to see 1080p as a standard for CATV, but maybe for Satellite.
1080p is not part of the HD broadcast standard because it will not fit into a 20 Mbps data stream. I agree 1080p or even higher is the long term holy grail but it only helps those with very large displays and at present represents unacceptably high bandwidth requirements.

More background on 1080p:
»www.tvtechnology.com/article/71444

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said by tschmidt See Profile :

said by Greg_Z See Profile :

Doubtful that for some time that you will start to see 1080p as a standard for CATV, but maybe for Satellite.
1080p is not part of the HD broadcast standard because it will not fit into a 20 Mbps data stream. I agree 1080p or even higher is the long term holy grail but it only helps those with very large displays and at present represents unacceptably high bandwidth requirements.

/tom
1080p broadcast would use mostif not all of the entire 6 MHz of a channel. Which is the problem with analog. So that would mean no subchannels.


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So it seems HD content with the exception of free OTA broadcasts will remain a paid premium service for at least another decade.
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said by wings10 See Profile :

HD content with the exception of free OTA broadcasts will remain a paid premium service for at least another decade.
It is really more a marketing issue then a technical one. As long as customers are willing to pay extra for HD vendors will charge extra.

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said by tschmidt See Profile :

said by wings10 See Profile :

HD content with the exception of free OTA broadcasts will remain a paid premium service for at least another decade.
It is really more a marketing issue then a technical one. As long as customers are willing to pay extra for HD vendors will charge extra.

/tom
That makes sense.

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said by wings10 See Profile :

So it seems HD content with the exception of free OTA broadcasts will remain a paid premium service for at least another decade.
Dish Network has a HD only service. It's most expensive package is $50 a month regular price. Plus $5 for locals.

»dishnetwork.com/turbohd/programm···ult.aspx


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said by BF69 See Profile :

said by wings10 See Profile :

So it seems HD content with the exception of free OTA broadcasts will remain a paid premium service for at least another decade.
Dish Network has a HD only service. It's most expensive package is $50 a month regular price. Plus $5 for locals.

»dishnetwork.com/turbohd/programm···ult.aspx
And that is simply because rapidly getting much better diversity it is still only about half the channels that are HD vs the two top SD packages.
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said by BF69 See Profile :

said by wings10 See Profile :

So it seems HD content with the exception of free OTA broadcasts will remain a paid premium service for at least another decade.
Dish Network has a HD only service. It's most expensive package is $50 a month regular price. Plus $5 for locals.

»dishnetwork.com/turbohd/programm···ult.aspx
And that is simply because rapidly getting much better diversity it is still only about half the channels that are HD vs the two top SD packages.
Sorry I don't see anything on there that I don't want. Is there some major channel that is missing? When you say the SD packages have more channels which ones specifically.

Most of those extra channels are either music channels, as in Sirius type channels( who cares ). Or regional sports networks( once again who cares ). These seem to make up nearly 60% of those 200 channels on the $48 America's Top 200 package.

There might be a few channels misisng. Most of which I don't care about. Plus I'm sure they'll get added later. The fact is I shouldn't HAVE to buy a SD package just to be able to get the HD package if that's all I want. And Dish is doing it right( or at least better )


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Sorry I don't see anything on there that I don't want. Is there some major channel that is missing? When you say the SD packages have more channels which ones specifically.

MANNY MANY MANY.... again has finally tipped the 50% point but stilll many many, where if I took DISH's Turbo HD I would be missing a lot.

Secondary PBS here is still SD ONLY AND NOT CROPPING IT AS THE HD PBS IS.

Well lets see others....

Documentary Channel
FSTV
RFD-TV (1 show of interest Trains and Locomotives)
NAUS
Not sure how they are handling NASA, HD is available not seen them list it.
TRUE TV, again 1 show a week.
SLUETH
Chiller
Ovation
BBCA I don't think is yet either
IFC might be but don;t think so.
GAME I don't think is, since most programing is SD... love old PASSWORD.

I mean yes unless ALL you asre interested in is the mainstream clap trap crap.

Other than PBS there are like 3 shows a week I watch on broacast networks.

Since it virtually all now NOT Reality cheap to make BS drivil.

And actually the probably better way to ask the question of this thread, is not when everything with be HD, but when will the surcharges and needless duplication end?

Like thing like GAME that deal with virtually total SD programming, there is no rush for them to ever be HD.

But again when will the surcharging for HD end.... just as eventually no one now pays for touch tone dialing anymore.

And with Vonage, Majic Jack, Cable VOIP, all inclusive cell and other competitors very likely the LECS, willl be dropping charges for Call Waithing, Caller ID and all that nonsense too very soon, just as they did long barely a decade ago with touch Tone dialing..
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