hobgoblin
Sortof Agoblin
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join:2001-11-25
Orchard Park, NY
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Re: Road Runner - Docsis 3 news?
I just love speculation.
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maartena
Super Grover
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join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
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said by hobgoblin  :I just love speculation. I'm not expecting TWC to release anything on the subject, such as "planned for 4th quarter 2009 are these and these cities", so speculation is all we have 
Only TWC themselves can give us the FACTS on TWC and Docsis 3.0, and they aren't talking.
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Pizz
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join:2000-10-27
Astoria, NY
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| They'll implement Docsis 3 in every single franchise, if you allow TWC to put in their original CBB plans. Hell i'll even go out with full blown speculation. Docsis 3 tiers will have a paltry 25,75,100gigs - each being 39.99, 59.99, 79.99 - with 1 dollar per gig for each overage.
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hobgoblin
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join:2001-11-25
Orchard Park, NY
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I doubt 99% of the subscribers have any clue what Docsis 3.0 is!
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MacAlert
join:2005-03-16
Flushing, NY
1 edit | I bet 99% of TWC employees don't know what DOCSIS 3 is.
Let's not forget it was one of TWC's executives who said they don't see the need for higher internet speeds. |
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hobgoblin
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Orchard Park, NY
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| "I bet 99% of TWC employees don't know what DOCSIS 3 is."
and I'd take your money.
"Let's not forget it was one of TWC's executives who said they don't see the need for higher internet speeds."
Today.....he is probably right.
Hob
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FHBroadband
join:2009-04-15
4 edits | reply to MacAlert
NYC will go Docsis 3.0 to compete with Verizon FIOS.
Verizon is wiring up new areas in NYC as we speak.
99% of employees don't know what Cablelabs is? Well most employees for companies on the bottom of the ladder are quite unknowledgable on their own product lines.
Bright people who don't know about telecommunications products won't know either although they know about cablemodems and broadband in general.
However, customers do know SPEED and want faster and better technologies to emerge.
They know what fiber optics is and the like.
I can say that Andy Grove of Intel knows what Cablelabs is as he mentioned it with Charlie Rose straight up. If Intel knows what it is, and makes the majority and the best of the worlds processors for computers, you can bet your bottom dollar that we will up the pipe.
Why it hasn't been done as of yet I can't answer. I am hoping it is the 8 channel Docsis 3.0 product.
Remember there is a ton of things that go on including spectrum allocation and the like. Extensive trials and field tests need to be done and maybe even tweaking of the networks themselves.
"Now, only days after the Broadcom announcement, Cisco has revealed its plan to develop a new DOCSIS 3.0 modem based on the Broadcom silicon. According to Multichannel News, the device will be submitted for CableLabs certification this spring, with widespread deployment scheduled for 2010."
Time Warner could very well be readying its Cablelabs docsis 3.0 8 channel product since Verizon FIOS is raising its speed tiers.
Time Warner has every reason to migrate to Docsis 3.0 and they know it.
You can't succeed as a cable firm unless you offer technological changes especially in the New York City market with FIOS, Time Warner and RCN in some markets.
Residential broadband is not a commercial grade product and has to be done to a very large scale using shared OC Pipes and the like and the last mile is the most expensive and challenging part to get accomplished.
Time Warner has the last mile, Verizon FIOS is building the last mile, RCN has partially built out the last mile and AT&T owns huge central offices and facilities and could really build out its own network as well if it wanted to since it has successfully deployed U-Verse elsewhere. The lack of a product better than AT&T DSL is a disappointment. But with so much competition between FIOS and Time Warner and with partial competition, I don't see AT&T spending billions to build out U-Verse to NYC.
Docsis 3.0 needs to get done. It is the future. Docsis 3.0 is needed for society. |
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astokes
join:2000-08-11
Bangor, ME | Faster speeds would be nice, but consistent speeds and better latency would suit me fine. |
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FHBroadband
join:2009-04-15
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Shows 100MBPS now. Someone else pointed this out after this forum was created then it made top story here.
Looks like Docsis 3.0 is on track for this year for NYC and this just happened to be the first sign of it. |
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GVG
join:2006-09-19
Charlotte, NC | reply to FHBroadband
Heard today from a very reliable inside source, no DOCSIS 3 for the Charlotte area anytime soon. Budget problems. |
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Matt
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| said by GVG :Heard today from a very reliable inside source, no DOCSIS 3 for the Charlotte area anytime soon. Budget problems. The Charlotte area has some major issues, at least where my CEO is. We had to have a DSL line installed as his Biz Class line is too unreliable and suffering too much packet loss to support a measly VoIP connection. After fussing and getting them to admit it's a problem at the headend that is going to take months to fix, we couldn't wait any longer. |
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FHBroadband
join:2009-04-15
2 edits | reply to GVG
That is unfortunate. Not sure how the Charlotte area is but for NYC it is definitely a go.
Competition is intense here. Budget problems are just an excuse. |
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Karl Bode
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NYC will be the only DOCSIS 3.0 launch in the country this year. Which is lame, by any standard, but the suits at TWC argue the speeds aren't necessary. In reality, they face crap last-gen DSL competition in the majority of their markets -- so it's not that consumers don't want the speed -- it's that they really don't need to deploy it until 2010 or 2011 -- if even then.
A source at Cisco says DOCSIS 3.0 gear has been in NYC for months for testing...since before Sprint even. Another new source at Time Warner Cable who reached out this week insists the NYC launch will be in weeks, not months. No confirmation of this last bit though... |
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FHBroadband
join:2009-04-15 | FIOS had permits in my town then new sewer work permits came in. Unclear what is going on. |
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